They make *what* for kids!?

[Mavorpen]

Why would I admit something that I never disagreed with?

Because of your previous implication that there was no reason to keep ammunition in the home.

Unless you were being sarcastic/humorous, in which case I recommend you affix some kind of textual/visual indicator of such, like ' ' or ' ' so as to avoid the ever-so-common misidentification of sarcastic comments as serious ones (and vice versa) on teh internetz.

I wasn't sarcastic. It was just poor wording on my part. I was referring to government issued ammunition, not privately sold ammunition. Sorry.

[Thoricia]

I bet he's thinking of Black Talons.

Probably. When they hit the market I bought two boxes of .44 magnum and two of 9mm. When the took them off the market (they really should have thought out the name a bit better), I made a nice profit selling the four boxes.

Black Talons are still around, they've just been renamed.

[YellowApple]

Because of your previous implication that there was no reason to keep ammunition in the home.

Unless you were being sarcastic/humorous, in which case I recommend you affix some kind of textual/visual indicator of such, like ' ' or ' ' so as to avoid the ever-so-common misidentification of sarcastic comments as serious ones (and vice versa) on teh internetz.

I wasn't sarcastic. It was just poor wording on my part. I was referring to government issued ammunition, not privately sold ammunition. Sorry.

No worries; thanks for the clarification.

EDIT: Though I imagine government-issued ammunition would be an attractive alternative to privately-sold ammunition for those below the poverty line (or another equivalent threshold of substandard income). On the other hand, an ammunition allowance of sorts (or some kind of voucher system) would be effective as well.

[Thoricia]

I've gone completely overboard on my battery then *nods*

can i ask why?

Why I have or why do I think I have?

[Big Jim P]

No I do not. A basic battery consists of a rifle, a handgun and a shotgun. My idea of a reasonable stockpile of ammo is a complete loadout for the battery, the remaining ammo in the opened box, and one box in reserve. More ammo should you find it at a good price.

I've gone completely overboard on my battery then *nods*

That was just the basic battery. An expanded battery would include a backup handgun, and a second rifle (one semi-auto or lever action, the other a scoped bolt action for longer ranged shooting). Beyond that I would start calling it a collection more than a battery.

[Paddy O Fernature]

No I do not. A basic battery consists of a rifle, a handgun and a shotgun. My idea of a reasonable stockpile of ammo is a complete loadout for the battery, the remaining ammo in the opened box, and one box in reserve. More ammo should you find it at a good price.

I've gone completely overboard on my battery then *nods*

Too early for gunporn?

[Mavorpen]

I wasn't sarcastic. It was just poor wording on my part. I was referring to government issued ammunition, not privately sold ammunition. Sorry.

No worries; thanks for the clarification.

I shouldn't be on NSG late at night.

[Thoricia]

I've gone completely overboard on my battery then *nods*

That was just the basic battery. An expanded battery would include a backup handgun, and a second rifle (one semi-auto or lever action, the other a scoped bolt action for longer ranged shooting). Beyond that I would start calling it a collection more than a battery.

Oh well I has a collection then.

[Lunatic Goofballs]

Well then to avoid further confusion, maybe YOU ought to tell me what YOUR definition is.

I'm so fucking confused with this Wikipedia article. First it says "collective rights" model, then it states the "sophisticated collective rights model." But then later it refers to the "sophisticated" as just the "collective rights model."

The first, known as the "states' rights" or "collective rights" model, holds that the Second Amendment does not apply to individuals; rather, it recognizes the right of each state to arm its militia.

The second, known as the "sophisticated collective rights model", holds that the Second Amendment recognizes some limited individual right. However, this individual right could only be exercised by actively participating members of a functioning, organized state militia.

The first more closely related to what I am referring to, but it's not necessarily true that it doesn't apply to the individuals, it applies to the individual right to bear arms in the context of preserving and maintaining an effective militia.

Now I'M Confused. First, the idea that the states have the right to arm it's militia is nuts for two reasons: States don't have rights, states have powers and states don't have militias. The Militia is federal. That's why state national guard branches are called NATIONAL Guard.

Second, I'm not sure where you stand anymore. Now your definition sounds more like individual rights than collective rights.

[Big Jim P]

I've gone completely overboard on my battery then *nods*

Too early for gunporn?

Never to early. *pant, pant*

[DaWoad]

assuming you're keeping those in a gunsafe or otherwise safed (trigger lock w/e) , works for me.

Of course I keep them secured. One, they do not need to be in the wrong hands, and second, they represent a pretty good monetary investment.

glad to hear, I try not to make assumptions given that I've seen other people go ballistic about not being able to access their fully loaded, one in the spout, weapon at a split second's notice. Of course, the only safety they need is their triger finger

[Mavorpen]

Now I'M Confused. First, the idea that the states have the right to arm it's militia is nuts for two reasons: States don't have rights, states have powers and states don't have militias. The Militia is federal. That's why state national guard branches are called NATIONAL Guard.

Now tell me, when was the National Guard created?

Hint: it wasn't in 1791.

Second, I'm not sure where you stand anymore. Now your definition sounds more like individual rights than collective rights.

...Nope. Not even going to bother.

[DaWoad]

can i ask why?

Why I have or why do I think I have?

why you have *nods* I assume you think you have 'cause you have a bunch of guns.

[Thoricia]

I've gone completely overboard on my battery then *nods*

Too early for gunporn?

I have something for you then

I saw this and felt it move a little

[DaWoad]

Probably. When they hit the market I bought two boxes of .44 magnum and two of 9mm. When the took them off the market (they really should have thought out the name a bit better), I made a nice profit selling the four boxes.

Black Talons are still around, they've just been renamed.

Same eXact Things

[Big Jim P]

Of course I keep them secured. One, they do not need to be in the wrong hands, and second, they represent a pretty good monetary investment.

glad to hear, I try not to make assumptions given that I've seen other people go ballistic about not being able to access their fully loaded, one in the spout, weapon at a split second's notice. Of course, the only safety they need is their triger finger

One should have immediate access to at leas one of their guns, loaded, at all times for home defense. I prefer either a handgun or a shotgun for said purpose.

[Lunatic Goofballs]

Now I'M Confused. First, the idea that the states have the right to arm it's militia is nuts for two reasons: States don't have rights, states have powers and states don't have militias. The Militia is federal. That's why state national guard branches are called NATIONAL Guard.

Now tell me, when was the National Guard created?

Hint: it wasn't in 1791.

1903. Do I win a prize?

[DaWoad]

Too early for gunporn?

I have something for you then

I saw this and felt it move a little

... why would anyone want that . . .ever.

[Mavorpen]

1903. Do I win a prize?

Yes. You win the knowledge of understanding that the Second Amendment doesn't apply to the National Guard, but to state militias.

[Thoricia]

Why I have or why do I think I have?

why you have *nods* I assume you think you have 'cause you have a bunch of guns.

I like firearms in a variety of calibers for multiple applications.

[DaWoad]

glad to hear, I try not to make assumptions given that I've seen other people go ballistic about not being able to access their fully loaded, one in the spout, weapon at a split second's notice. Of course, the only safety they need is their triger finger

One should have immediate access to at leas one of their guns, loaded, at all times for home defense. I prefer either a handgun or a shotgun for said purpose.

Immediate access should be tempered with safety. you do not want anyone untrained getting their hands your your "immediate access" weapon.

[Lunatic Goofballs]

1903. Do I win a prize?

Yes. You win the knowledge of understanding that the Second Amendment doesn't apply to the National Guard, but to state militias.

The second amendment doesn't apply to state militias. It applies to people. Or more specifically, it applies to government by depriving them of the power to restrict a certain right.

[YellowApple]

1903. Do I win a prize?

Yes. You win the knowledge of understanding that the Second Amendment doesn't apply to the National Guard, but to state militias.

I always thought the National Guard was a collection of state militias.

Maybe I'm misinterpreting though.

[footnote: the second sentence was not sarcastic; I'm open to the idea of it being a federal entity. It just looks like both...]

[Thoricia]

Black Talons are still around, they've just been renamed.

Same eXact Things

Close but renamed one more time. SXT was fazed out a few years ago for personal defense ammo

[DaWoad]

why you have *nods* I assume you think you have 'cause you have a bunch of guns.

I like firearms in a variety of calibers for multiple applications.

Such as? 'cause two rifles, a shotgun and a handgun covers pretty much everything I can think of for hunting (.22 and .36 respectively for rodent and bigger game) .