Sharia poll amongst Muslim people

[Kemalist]

I recently came across a research about the support for Sharia law amongst Muslim populations in some countries.

http://www.pewforum.org/Muslim/the-worl ... haria.aspx

What are your opinions on it? I knew Lebanon had a quite secular society but the result is much less than what I would expect. Also; Malaysia and Indonesia disappointed me a lot, considering that they have a more-or-less contact with secularism.

And wtf Afghanistan?

[Anachronous Rex]

I knew there was a reason I liked Azerbaijan.

I mean, besides the ladies...

[Mike the Progressive]

in b4 Gauthier talks about how this poll is really an imperialist, RepublicKKK conspiracy orchestrated by the anti-gay but really secretly homosexual alliance that hates brown people and blacks; and that how all Muslims are really good, and innocent. minus the fact that no demographic is actually like that.

[Cosara]

Wait a second. You mean to tell me, Muslim Law isn't already the official law of Afghanistan?

[Kemalist]

Wait a second. You mean to tell me, Muslim Law isn't already the official law of Afghanistan?

Yes it is, but it's horrible to see that almost the whole population is in favour of the Sharia.

[Khadgar]

Is anyone surprised that an authoritarian religion's adherents want a heavy handed legal system? Next you'll shock me by saying Christians approve of the death penalty.

[Cannot think of a name]

Meanwhile American politicians try and pass laws and institute things like bible study and prayer in public schools, codify their religious beliefs in laws regarding marriage between adults and birth control, etc etc etc.

I'm sure I have some self righteous rage left over to worry about what Muslims want to do in Muslim dominant countries somewhere, I'll let you know when I find it.

[Samuraikoku]

Republicans should see this and make a comparison.

[Towson]

Kosovo is the only one with a Majority in Crated by men based on the word of god.

Kosovo,Kosovo,Kosovo!

[EnragedMaldivians]

There's a wide discrepancy in what kind of Sharia law they favour though; while Indonesian Muslims for the most part want some sort of Sharia, very few of them want strict Hadd aspects such as execution of apostates. They want it applied in areas relating to family law and inheritance.

The same poll however shows that South Asian Muslims for the most part do favour executing apostates, and unfortunately that is where I am from. That's why I, as an apostate, and as someone from a self-declared 100% Muslim country find it worrying, and also why I don't find the comparisons to mandatory bible-study classes in the U.S an appropriate one.

[Mike the Progressive]

Republicans should see this and make a comparison.

There is of course a difference here. The majority of the country are not Republicans, and Republicans themselves are split in how far they wish to push God in our faces. Certainly, people like Bachmann and West give that impression, as does Santorum, but none of these also advocate for what Sharia law does for those who breaks it. They want to make abortion illegal, not murder the women who have them (though that's what they would be doing). They want to make gay marriage illegal, but not stone and kill them the homosexuals. They want to degrade women, but not to the point where their faces are hidden, where they can't drive, where their husbands can beat them.

The GOP is certainly fucked up. I'll be the first one to admit that. But I will not even dare make the comparison unless I'm seriously drunk or high. And unfortunately, I have an exam in a few hours, so that's not an option till after class.

[Cosara]

Republicans should see this and make a comparison.

There is of course a difference here. The majority of the country are not Republicans, and Republicans themselves are split in how far they wish to push God in our faces. Certainly, people like Bachmann and West give that impression, as does Santorum, but none of these also advocate for what Sharia law does for those who breaks it. They want to make abortion illegal, not murder the women who have them (though that's what they would be doing). They want to make gay marriage illegal, but not stone and kill them the homosexuals. They want to degrade women, but not to the point where their faces are hidden, where they can't drive, where their husbands can beat them.

The GOP is certainly fucked up. I'll be the first one to admit that. But I will not even dare make the comparison unless I'm seriously drunk or high. And unfortunately, I have an exam in a few hours, so that's not an option till after class.

I am Republican (I identify with the Republican Party) and I don't want to force God down the throats of anyone. I just don't want Atheism forced down the throats of children. I am simply making one request: Just tell students that we don't know how life began and present them with Evolution, Creationism and Intellegent Design, and let children chose their religious path, weather it's Atheism, Theism, Scientology (I think Scientology is a belief in a form of intellegent design. I really don't know) or whatever they want to believe. I'm not advocating less religious freedom, I am advocating more.

[Khadgar]

There is of course a difference here. The majority of the country are not Republicans, and Republicans themselves are split in how far they wish to push God in our faces. Certainly, people like Bachmann and West give that impression, as does Santorum, but none of these also advocate for what Sharia law does for those who breaks it. They want to make abortion illegal, not murder the women who have them (though that's what they would be doing). They want to make gay marriage illegal, but not stone and kill them the homosexuals. They want to degrade women, but not to the point where their faces are hidden, where they can't drive, where their husbands can beat them.

The GOP is certainly fucked up. I'll be the first one to admit that. But I will not even dare make the comparison unless I'm seriously drunk or high. And unfortunately, I have an exam in a few hours, so that's not an option till after class.

I am Republican (I identify with the Republican Party) and I don't want to force God down the throats of anyone. I just don't want Atheism forced down the throats of children. I am simply making one request: Just tell students that we don't know how life began and present them with Evolution, Creationism and Intellegent Design, and let children chose their religious path, weather it's Atheism, Theism, Scientology (I think Scientology is a belief in a form of intellegent design. I really don't know) or whatever they want to believe. I'm not advocating less religious freedom, I am advocating more.

No, you're advocating making a storybook equivalent to facts. You don't get to do that. Though I know how much you love to disregard facts you don't like so why am I bothering to type this?

[Samuraikoku]

I am Republican (I identify with the Republican Party) and I don't want to force God down the throats of anyone. I just don't want Atheism forced down the throats of children. I am simply making one request: Just tell students that we don't know how life began and present them with Evolution, Creationism and Intellegent Design, and let children chose their religious path, weather it's Atheism, Theism, Scientology (I think Scientology is a belief in a form of intellegent design. I really don't know) or whatever they want to believe. I'm not advocating less religious freedom, I am advocating more.

No.

[Cosara]

I am Republican (I identify with the Republican Party) and I don't want to force God down the throats of anyone. I just don't want Atheism forced down the throats of children. I am simply making one request: Just tell students that we don't know how life began and present them with Evolution, Creationism and Intellegent Design, and let children chose their religious path, weather it's Atheism, Theism, Scientology (I think Scientology is a belief in a form of intellegent design. I really don't know) or whatever they want to believe. I'm not advocating less religious freedom, I am advocating more.

No, you're advocating making a storybook equivalent to facts. You don't get to do that. Though I know how much you love to disregard facts you don't like so why am I bothering to type this?

That is your opinion. My opinion is that evolution is bullshit and that God created the world in 6 days. It's your opinion that the Bible is just a storybook and that evolution made us all.

[Anachronous Rex]

There is of course a difference here. The majority of the country are not Republicans, and Republicans themselves are split in how far they wish to push God in our faces. Certainly, people like Bachmann and West give that impression, as does Santorum, but none of these also advocate for what Sharia law does for those who breaks it. They want to make abortion illegal, not murder the women who have them (though that's what they would be doing). They want to make gay marriage illegal, but not stone and kill them the homosexuals. They want to degrade women, but not to the point where their faces are hidden, where they can't drive, where their husbands can beat them.

The GOP is certainly fucked up. I'll be the first one to admit that. But I will not even dare make the comparison unless I'm seriously drunk or high. And unfortunately, I have an exam in a few hours, so that's not an option till after class.

I am Republican (I identify with the Republican Party) and I don't want to force God down the throats of anyone. I just don't want Atheism forced down the throats of children. I am simply making one request: Just tell students that we don't know how life began and present them with Evolution, Creationism and Intellegent Design, and let children chose their religious path, weather it's Atheism, Theism, Scientology (I think Scientology is a belief in a form of intellegent design. I really don't know) or whatever they want to believe. I'm not advocating less religious freedom, I am advocating more.

"I'm just saying, we don't really know what causes earthquakes. And until science can prove that Poseidon doesn't exist, we should teach the "Pissed off sea-god" theory alongside plate tectonics."

[Samuraikoku]

That is your opinion. My opinion is that evolution is bullshit and that God created the world in 6 days. It's your opinion that the Bible is just a storybook and that evolution made us all.

And this is why you don't get to teach Creationism or Intelligent Design in schools. Because you try to equate religious belief with scientific theory.

In anyway, not the topic.

[Anachronous Rex]

No, you're advocating making a storybook equivalent to facts. You don't get to do that. Though I know how much you love to disregard facts you don't like so why am I bothering to type this?

That is your opinion. My opinion is that evolution is bullshit and that God created the world in 6 days. It's your opinion that the Bible is just a storybook and that evolution made us all.

The difference is, that your opinion is demonstrably wrong, and his is verifiably accurate.

[New Libertarian States]

No, you're advocating making a storybook equivalent to facts. You don't get to do that. Though I know how much you love to disregard facts you don't like so why am I bothering to type this?

That is your opinion. My opinion is that evolution is bullshit and that God created the world in 6 days. It's your opinion that the Bible is just a storybook and that evolution made us all.

Get back on track guys , lets talk about how this could be either good or bad (my opinion is bad)

[Cosara]

That is your opinion. My opinion is that evolution is bullshit and that God created the world in 6 days. It's your opinion that the Bible is just a storybook and that evolution made us all.

Get back on track guys , lets talk about how this could be either good or bad (my opinion is bad)

20 posts in and we've already all agreed on something.

[Anachronous Rex]

Wait a second. You mean to tell me, Muslim Law isn't already the official law of Afghanistan?

Yes it is, but it's horrible to see that almost the whole population is in favour of the Sharia.

Back on topic:
Do you think they really are? Or is this a case of some other factor skewing the poll?

The Taliban do have quite an intimidation campaign going, after all. Maybe they don't feel safe telling strangers that they are in favor of secularism? Maybe they fear pollsters may be informants?

Or it could be a translation thing... Sharia does mean "law" after all...

[Christian Socialist England]

Is anyone surprised that an authoritarian religion's adherents want a heavy handed legal system? Next you'll shock me by saying Christians approve of the death penalty.

I disapprove of the death penalty! Killing someone is pretty much the worst thing you can do regardless of the harm they have caused you. A good Christian can forgive and pray for the ones who hurt you.

As for sharia it may surprise you but I am a secularist so I disapprove of any religious involvement in legal matters, or government for that matter.

[New Libertarian States]

Get back on track guys , lets talk about how this could be either good or bad (my opinion is bad)

20 posts in and we've already all agreed on something.

So then the best option is to derail
.
Anyhow, you never know, their may be that 1 person who thinks it's good.

[Cosara]

Yes it is, but it's horrible to see that almost the whole population is in favour of the Sharia.

Back on topic:
Do you think they really are? Or is this a case of some other factor skewing the poll?

The Taliban do have quite an intimidation campaign going, after all. Maybe they don't feel safe telling strangers that they are in favor of secularism? Maybe they fear pollsters may be informants?

Or it could be a translation thing... Sharia does mean "law" after all...

Sharia Law translates to Law Law?

[Khadgar]

Yes it is, but it's horrible to see that almost the whole population is in favour of the Sharia.

Back on topic:
Do you think they really are? Or is this a case of some other factor skewing the poll?

The Taliban do have quite an intimidation campaign going, after all. Maybe they don't feel safe telling strangers that they are in favor of secularism? Maybe they fear pollsters may be informants?

Or it could be a translation thing... Sharia does mean "law" after all...

After the stupid shit we pulled to find Bin Laden I wouldn't tell a pollster or aid worker a damned thing.