
by Derscon » Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:14 pm

by Tunizcha » Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:21 pm

by Derscon » Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:23 pm
Dinaverg wrote:His name is also Rags Canal? I dunno, we don't seem to be so enamored of space at the moment...

by Derscon » Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:24 pm
Tunizcha wrote:It is almost the 13th anniversary of his death, which is in December. It's unfortunate that he died the same year I was born.
Anyways, here is something quite epic.

by Tunizcha » Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:26 pm
Derscon wrote:Tunizcha wrote:It is almost the 13th anniversary of his death, which is in December. It's unfortunate that he died the same year I was born.
Anyways, here is something quite epic.
http://www.symphonyofscience.com/
Both videos are on this site.

by Dinaverg » Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:27 pm
Derscon wrote:Dinaverg wrote:His name is also Rags Canal? I dunno, we don't seem to be so enamored of space at the moment...
...Why do we have to be NASA-fappers in order to appreciate Sagan and what he supported, envisioned, and embodied? Personally, I'm with Dr. Sagan on this one. Maybe we should start looking towards the stars again, and maybe just a few more people might be able to appreciate our position, and the awesomeness (in the classical, not the colloquial sense) of the Cosmos.
Science Fiction, for instance, has always been a vehicle for social commentary and satire, but has always been marginalized because of its dismissal as a child's genre.

by Derscon » Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:30 pm
Dinaverg wrote:Derscon wrote:Dinaverg wrote:His name is also Rags Canal? I dunno, we don't seem to be so enamored of space at the moment...
...Why do we have to be NASA-fappers in order to appreciate Sagan and what he supported, envisioned, and embodied? Personally, I'm with Dr. Sagan on this one. Maybe we should start looking towards the stars again, and maybe just a few more people might be able to appreciate our position, and the awesomeness (in the classical, not the colloquial sense) of the Cosmos.
Science Fiction, for instance, has always been a vehicle for social commentary and satire, but has always been marginalized because of its dismissal as a child's genre.
Well, yes, you are clearly affected but he doesn't seem to have that world (universe, really) changing effect you're attributing to him. Just, you know, a few disciples. Don't get me wrong, I celebrate Towel day and everything, but...

by Dinaverg » Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:31 pm
Derscon wrote:Dina wrote:
Well, yes, you are clearly affected but he doesn't seem to have that world (universe, really) changing effect you're attributing to him. Just, you know, a few disciples. Don't get me wrong, I celebrate Towel day and everything, but...
They said the same thing about Jesus, too. <_<
But, if it's a good message...maybe, then, he should have that recognition?

by Derscon » Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:38 pm
Dinaverg wrote:Derscon wrote:Dina wrote:
Well, yes, you are clearly affected but he doesn't seem to have that world (universe, really) changing effect you're attributing to him. Just, you know, a few disciples. Don't get me wrong, I celebrate Towel day and everything, but...
They said the same thing about Jesus, too. <_<
But, if it's a good message...maybe, then, he should have that recognition?
That sounds more reasonable, if unfortunately more jaded. Let's go with that. ^_^


by Rogue Syrup » Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:24 pm
Derscon wrote:The choice is with us still, but the civilization now in jeopardy is all humanity. As the ancient myth makers knew, we are children equally of the earth and the sky. In our tenure of this planet we've accumulated dangerous evolutionary baggage — propensities for aggression and ritual, submission to leaders, hostility to outsiders — all of which puts our survival in some doubt. But we've also acquired compassion for others, love for our children and desire to learn from history and experience, and a great soaring passionate intelligence — the clear tools for our continued survival and prosperity. Which aspects of our nature will prevail is uncertain, particularly when our visions and prospects are bound to one small part of the small planet Earth. But up there in the immensity of the Cosmos, an inescapable perspective awaits us. There are not yet any obvious signs of extraterrestrial intelligence and this makes us wonder whether civilizations like ours always rush implacably, headlong, toward self-destruction. National boundaries are not evident when we view the Earth from space. Fanatical ethnic or religious or national chauvinisms are a little difficult to maintain when we see our planet as a fragile blue crescent fading to become an inconspicuous point of light against the bastion and citadel of the stars." ~ Carl Sagan, Cosmos
So, tomorrow is Carl Sagan Day, the 75th Anniversary of his birth.
One man, while not single-handedly, managed to do so much for the advancement of not merely science - our never ending quest for knowledge - but a compassion for our fellow man, and yet so many more have yet to hear the message he brought to countless millions. His efforts to educate, most notably through his PBS series Cosmos: A Personal Voyage as well as the book that stemmed from it (which was the book that personally affected me and made me fall in love with Sagan, reinvigorating my lust for the stars), amount to a powerful movement to not only counter the forces of ignorance, but, with luck, push all of our inter-connected human race off the shores of the cosmic ocean and set sail for the stars.
tl;dr - Discuss why Carl Sagan is awesome

by Buffett and Colbert » Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:32 pm
You-Gi-Owe wrote:If someone were to ask me about your online persona as a standard of your "date-ability", I'd rate you as "worth investigating further & passionate about beliefs". But, enough of the idle speculation on why you didn't score with the opposite gender.

by Rogue Syrup » Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:46 pm
Buffett and Colbert wrote:Ese hombre es la fuente de la mayor parte de mis pensamientos de religión y la vida. Sagan es alguien que puedes llamar sinceramente sabio. Carl Sagan es uno de las mejores personas que el mundo ha visto jamás.
Sometimes only Spanish conveys my message properly.

by Buffett and Colbert » Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:59 pm
Rogue Syrup wrote:Buffett and Colbert wrote:Ese hombre es la fuente de la mayor parte de mis pensamientos de religión y la vida. Sagan es alguien que puedes llamar sinceramente sabio. Carl Sagan es uno de las mejores personas que el mundo ha visto jamás.
Sometimes only Spanish conveys my message properly.
but i can only read in English.![]()
man is the source of most of my thoughts on religion and life. Sagan is someone you can call truly wise. Carl Sagan is one of the best people that the world has ever seen

You-Gi-Owe wrote:If someone were to ask me about your online persona as a standard of your "date-ability", I'd rate you as "worth investigating further & passionate about beliefs". But, enough of the idle speculation on why you didn't score with the opposite gender.
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