2016: Rand Paul vs Hilary Clinton

[Khadgar]

He also meant to write "gay rites".

hey, what gay people do in private is none of my business....

It's one of the steps in the recruitment process.

[Neragua]

I'm not entitled to vote in the US but if I was this would be one tough choice. I'd pick Rand Paul, however, because I think Clinton is far too close to the inner workings of Washington to bring real change to the office. Furthermore, I personally favour Rand Paul's fresh politics and radical economics to Clinton's politics. Both seem socially liberal but Clinton is closer to what I - as a Briton - would identify as socially liberal.

All that said, I would really love to see this actually happen in 2016 (though I very much doubt it will - for either candidate).

[Khadgar]

I'm not entitled to vote in the US but if I was this would be one tough choice. I'd pick Rand Paul, however, because I think Clinton is far too close to the inner workings of Washington to bring real change to the office. Furthermore, I personally favour Rand Paul's fresh politics and radical economics to Clinton's politics. Both seem socially liberal but Clinton is closer to what I - as a Briton - would identify as socially liberal.

All that said, I would really love to see this actually happen in 2016 (though I very much doubt it will - for either candidate).

Radical economics in this case would be incredibly stupid economics backed by faulty math.

[Daistallia 2104]

It appears as though NSers like to buzz about 2016 even though it is 3 years from now.

In any case, we'll have to see. I want to wait until debates, choosing of running mates, etc. to decide who will get my vote. Most likely Hilary.

Just to point out, here in Iowa, the groundwork for the many campaigns is started just after the midterms - sometimes even before.

[Grand Britannia]

Clinton most likely.

[Ashmoria]

It appears as though NSers like to buzz about 2016 even though it is 3 years from now.

In any case, we'll have to see. I want to wait until debates, choosing of running mates, etc. to decide who will get my vote. Most likely Hilary.

Just to point out, here in Iowa, the groundwork for the many campaigns is started just after the midterms - sometimes even before.

I was just seeing on TV that Kirsten gillibrand is considering running. has she been in iowa yet?

[The Steel Magnolia]

is this the ONLY issue you care about?

It is one of the most en portent one to me.

1. video games
2.jobs
3.health care
4. not banning guns
5.geting off gas
6.gay rites

Are you twelve?

[Lesbia]

In all honesty, just the fact that the poll is currently 59-41 is pretty telling on the ultra-liberal NationStates.

[Transhuman Proteus]

In all honesty, just the fact that the poll is currently 59-41 is pretty telling on the ultra-liberal NationStates.

Or that people just think Clinton is a lot less terrible than Paul. Which she kind of is.

Edit: Oops, misread entirely.

[Khadgar]

In all honesty, just the fact that the poll is currently 59-41 is pretty telling on the ultra-liberal NationStates.

There's no shortage of Paul supporters. The damned fumigations haven't helped at all, and the traps don't work.

[The Steel Magnolia]

In all honesty, just the fact that the poll is currently 59-41 is pretty telling on the ultra-liberal NationStates.

I wouldn't say NS is ultra liberal. Left, certainly.

[Gallup]

I picked Rand, But I really Jon Huntsman Jr. runs.

[The Steel Magnolia]

I picked Rand, But I really Jon Huntsman Jr. runs.

I'll be stunned if he even gets into the primaries. Delighted. But stunned.

[Gun Manufacturers]

Honestly, I'd probably vote third party unless that third party candidate was utterly repulsive. Then I'd have no choice but to vote for Rand Paul. I wouldn't vote for Hillary with a gun to my head.

[Daistallia 2104]

Just to point out, here in Iowa, the groundwork for the many campaigns is started just after the midterms - sometimes even before.

I was just seeing on TV that Kirsten gillibrand is considering running. has she been in iowa yet?

Possibly. I know she addressed the Iowa delegation's breakfast at the 2012 DNC. And a certain GOP candidate from 2012 who has an unfortunate name association with a sex act problem was supposed to have been the keynote speaker at the Iowa Faith and Freedom Coalition's spring kickoff earlier this month. (He was hospitalized and couldn't make it. I was soooo dissapointed!)

[Choronzon]

Obama is gonna suspend the constitution there wont be a next election WAKE UP SHEEPLE

[Divair]

Obama is gonna suspend the constitution there wont be a next election WAKE UP SHEEPLE

FEMA DEATH CAMPS! OBAMACARE DEATH PANELS! DEATH EVERYTHING!

[Ashmoria]

I was just seeing on TV that Kirsten gillibrand is considering running. has she been in iowa yet?

Possibly. I know she addressed the Iowa delegation's breakfast at the 2012 DNC. And a certain GOP candidate from 2012 who has an unfortunate name association with a sex act problem was supposed to have been the keynote speaker at the Iowa Faith and Freedom Coalition's spring kickoff earlier this month. (He was hospitalized and couldn't make it. I was soooo dissapointed!)

she's been a good senator. id like to see her as a serious candidate in the future.

[Ashmoria]

I picked Rand, But I really Jon Huntsman Jr. runs.

what do you like about mr huntsman? he seems to be to be an extremely conservative man with an odd affect.

[The Steel Magnolia]

I picked Rand, But I really Jon Huntsman Jr. runs.

what do you like about mr huntsman? he seems to be to be an extremely conservative man with an odd affect.

He's sane. That helps.

[Ashmoria]

what do you like about mr huntsman? he seems to be to be an extremely conservative man with an odd affect.

He's sane. That helps.

that is a good thing, not pandering to the idiots and the conspiracy theorists. but ....what about his policies? they aren't any different from the standard republican policies.

[Choronzon]

In all honesty, just the fact that the poll is currently 59-41 is pretty telling on the ultra-liberal NationStates.

I wouldn't say NS is ultra liberal. Left, certainly.

Lets also not forget the fact that Nationstates is not a scientific poll, and that many people aren't going to even bother voting in said poll because its fucking 2013 and there is literally no reason for us to talk about who might run in 2016 at this point.

[Tyriece]

Third party, will never vote democrat or republican...

[The Steel Magnolia]

I wouldn't say NS is ultra liberal. Left, certainly.

Lets also not forget the fact that Nationstates is not a scientific poll, and that many people aren't going to even bother voting in said poll because its fucking 2013 and there is literally no reason for us to talk about who might run in 2016 at this point.

True.

He's sane. That helps.

that is a good thing, not pandering to the idiots and the conspiracy theorists. but ....what about his policies? they aren't any different from the standard republican policies.

To an extent yes. He's considered a RINO by many. Conservative? Certainly, but one I respect.

[Baiynistan]

It'll be a sad day for American politics when the prime candidates for the presidency are a snivelling, objectivist dauphin and lying fraudster wife of a rapist, apathetic towards genocides that get in the way of her publicity.