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Postby Almagarde » Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:00 pm

You have what you believe in...but what if you didnt? What would be your option 2 and why?

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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:04 pm

Atheist?
Agnostic?
Atheist Agnostic?
Buddhist?

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Postby Yootopia » Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:08 pm

Almagarde wrote:You have what you believe in...but what if you didnt? What would be your option 2 and why?

Erm instead of a Deist believer in Social Market theory I suppose I'd be a Scottish Church Socialist like my mum, if that's what you mean.
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Postby Tokos » Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:12 pm

Option 2 was atheist/lapsed Catholic/god hater.
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Postby Rhodmhire » Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:16 pm

I have no idea whatsoever as to what I'm supposed to respond to, nor how to respond to it.

Are you asking what your second resort of belief would be if your main source (i.e. a singular diety, set of dieties, yourself, etc.) were not present?
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:38 pm

I got 2 options:

Either I become a Galloismite, which I probably will have to soon or join the party at: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=19023. I'll have oodles of fun anyway! :bow:
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Postby Cameroi » Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:53 pm

a long time ago i declaired my belief in baha'u'llah. partially as a result of seeing so much not quite right in what was being perceived and taught as christianity and if anything, even more still is.

what i personally and really believe in though, is benign strangeness.
i also see big friendly and invisible, who gives great hugs, doesn't micro manage, and isn't obliged to resemble what anyone thinks they know about it as the benignest strangeness of all.

but i refuse to demonize all the little friendly and invisibles ether.
nor anything seen or unseen, sentient, animate, or totally inert.

there cannot help but be, not para or meta anything, but even in the visible physical universe,
how much more so in that which is unseen, a far more greater diversity of realities,
then we can ever begin to imagine.

consider how endlessly vast this one earth is in relation to any one being living on it.
now consider how in the universe that surrounds it, this whole earth is less then the finest
single grain of sand.

how then, could there possibly not be, orders of magnatude more and more greately diverse,
then any, or even all of us togather, could ever possibly begin to imagine?
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:17 pm

Agnostic atheism. :p
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Postby Tunizcha » Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:20 pm

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Postby Eradium » Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:21 pm

CoE, you don't even have to believe in God to be a part of it or go to church. It's a good religion, especially now the those that are opposed things like gay rights and women priests are defecting to the Catholic church. Also, the head of the church is the Queen, what's not to love.
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Postby Abdju » Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:36 pm

Sad though it is to admit, I'd be f****d.

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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:46 pm

I am a secular individualist.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:48 pm

Implicit atheist.
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Postby Saige Dragon » Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:50 pm

An second option? When did I have a first?

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Postby Korintar » Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:24 pm

Mormon or Jewish, and most likely lean either as a Democrat or Libertarian, as that would seem most palatable to me, but your question does seem a wee bit vague and I would like the OP to explain what they meant.
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Postby Vigilant Idealogues » Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:00 pm

Saige Dragon wrote:An second option? When did I have a first?

You ought to talk with my buddy Sartre... you can't not have a first option, no matter how much you want to :twisted:

As for me, probably Agnosticism (although Judaism would be fun...)
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Postby Saige Dragon » Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:06 pm

Vigilant Idealogues wrote:
Saige Dragon wrote:An second option? When did I have a first?

You ought to talk with my buddy Sartre... you can't not have a first option, no matter how much you want to :twisted:

As for me, probably Agnosticism (although Judaism would be fun...)


Yes, I just reread my post and realized it didn't come across as particularly intelligent. Just leaving it as is for comedic effect.

I guess I meant to say something more like; A second belief system? Why, I don't believe in much if anything at all in the first place.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:00 pm

Dyakovo wrote:Implicit atheist.


Ok, you have, you have to explain this one. I'm curious.
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Postby SaintB » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:04 pm

Where to start? Do you mean religion, politics, philosophy, morality?
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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:04 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Implicit atheist.


Ok, you have, you have to explain this one. I'm curious.

It's the same thing as "weak atheist" or "agnostic atheist", I just prefer the term "implicit atheist".
Implicit atheism and explicit atheism are subcategories of atheism coined by George H. Smith. Implicit atheism is defined by Smith as "the absence of theistic belief without a conscious rejection of it" (i.e., those who have not thought about the existence of deities, let alone decided against it, are de facto atheists). Explicit atheism is defined as "the absence of theistic belief due to a conscious rejection of it" (those who have thought about the existence of deities and have concluded they do not believe any exist), which, according to Smith, is sometimes characterized as antitheism.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:08 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Implicit atheist.


Ok, you have, you have to explain this one. I'm curious.

It's the same thing as "weak atheist" or "agnostic atheist", I just prefer the term "implicit atheist".
Implicit atheism and explicit atheism are subcategories of atheism coined by George H. Smith. Implicit atheism is defined by Smith as "the absence of theistic belief without a conscious rejection of it" (i.e., those who have not thought about the existence of deities, let alone decided against it, are de facto atheists). Explicit atheism is defined as "the absence of theistic belief due to a conscious rejection of it" (those who have thought about the existence of deities and have concluded they do not believe any exist), which, according to Smith, is sometimes characterized as antitheism.


Ah yes. That indeed explains your way of thinking in regards to religion.
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Postby Helgrin » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:08 pm

I'm currently agnostic, but if I weren't, I would probably be atheist, followed by Satanist. I'm not a fan of Christianity...
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Postby Robarya » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:38 pm

I have a hard time seeing what I would believe except what I believe in now, and I'm speaking ideologically. When it comes to religion, I'm an Atheist, but I don't put much weight into that.

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Postby Tunizcha » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:40 pm

Rhodmhirist first, Agnostic Atheist second, and probably Satanist third.
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Postby Takaram » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:40 pm

Atheist, secular humanist

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