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Isn't it strange...?

Postby The Godly Nations » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:03 am

Isn't quite odd that white Liberals, generally well off, upper middle class, white collar workers born into generally well off, upper middle class, white collar families living in mostly white, upper middle class communities, seem to have a profound insight to the psyche of the poor and black (and especially the black poor)?

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Postby Maurepas » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:04 am

I do find it quite odd...

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Postby Tagmatium » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:07 am

The Godly Nations wrote:Isn't quite odd that white Liberals, generally well off, upper middle class, white collar workers born into generally well off, upper middle class, white collar families living in mostly white, upper middle class communities, seem to have a profound insight to the psyche of the poor and black (and especially the black poor)?

Admittedly I've been born in to a middle class family, but it's only middle class through the hard work of my father, who was born into a working class family and hauled himself up. He's a life-long socialist, as was my grandfather before them.
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Postby Hydesland » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:08 am

The Godly Nations wrote:Isn't quite odd that white Liberals, generally well off, upper middle class, white collar workers born into generally well off, upper middle class, white collar families living in mostly white, upper middle class communities, seem to have a profound insight to the psyche of the poor and black (and especially the black poor)?


Are you claiming middle class white folks tend to be wiggers?
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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:08 am

Well I'm half black.
So half of the time I get them.
Half of the time I don't.

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Postby The Godly Nations » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:09 am

Hydesland wrote:
The Godly Nations wrote:Isn't quite odd that white Liberals, generally well off, upper middle class, white collar workers born into generally well off, upper middle class, white collar families living in mostly white, upper middle class communities, seem to have a profound insight to the psyche of the poor and black (and especially the black poor)?


Are you claiming middle class white folks tend to be wiggers?


By Cloven-hoolves, what is a 'wigger'?

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Postby Tagmatium » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:10 am

Hydesland wrote:Are you claiming middle class white folks tend to be wiggers?

I think it's a case of "those damn liberals/lefties don't know what they're on about", really.
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Postby Maurepas » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:11 am

The Godly Nations wrote:
Hydesland wrote:
The Godly Nations wrote:Isn't quite odd that white Liberals, generally well off, upper middle class, white collar workers born into generally well off, upper middle class, white collar families living in mostly white, upper middle class communities, seem to have a profound insight to the psyche of the poor and black (and especially the black poor)?


Are you claiming middle class white folks tend to be wiggers?


By Cloven-hoolves, what is a 'wigger'?

White people who exhibit a racist stereotype of Blacks because they think its cool...

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Postby Tokos » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:11 am

Well, two words… Billy Bragg.
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Postby Hydesland » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:15 am

The Godly Nations wrote:
Hydesland wrote:
The Godly Nations wrote:Isn't quite odd that white Liberals, generally well off, upper middle class, white collar workers born into generally well off, upper middle class, white collar families living in mostly white, upper middle class communities, seem to have a profound insight to the psyche of the poor and black (and especially the black poor)?


Are you claiming middle class white folks tend to be wiggers?


By Cloven-hoolves, what is a 'wigger'?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oogVyaMk3E

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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:15 am

Maurepas wrote:
The Godly Nations wrote:
Hydesland wrote:
The Godly Nations wrote:Isn't quite odd that white Liberals, generally well off, upper middle class, white collar workers born into generally well off, upper middle class, white collar families living in mostly white, upper middle class communities, seem to have a profound insight to the psyche of the poor and black (and especially the black poor)?


Are you claiming middle class white folks tend to be wiggers?


By Cloven-hoolves, what is a 'wigger'?

White people who exhibit a racist stereotype of Blacks because they think its cool...


I thought it was White + Nigger = Mix-race person.
Though it probably has different meanings... :p

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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:16 am

Clearly liberals are racist.
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Postby Rhodmhire » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:22 am

The Godly Nations wrote:Isn't quite odd that white Liberals, generally well off, upper middle class, white collar workers born into generally well off, upper middle class, white collar families living in mostly white, upper middle class communities, seem to have a profound insight to the psyche of the poor and black (and especially the black poor)?


Isn't it quite odd how we equate such primitive and irrelevant things such as race to relevant topics of discussion of any sort beyond their true and utter lack of beneficial significance?
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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:27 am

Hydesland wrote:
The Godly Nations wrote:
Hydesland wrote:
The Godly Nations wrote:Isn't quite odd that white Liberals, generally well off, upper middle class, white collar workers born into generally well off, upper middle class, white collar families living in mostly white, upper middle class communities, seem to have a profound insight to the psyche of the poor and black (and especially the black poor)?


Are you claiming middle class white folks tend to be wiggers?


By Cloven-hoolves, what is a 'wigger'?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oogVyaMk3E


Epic video.

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Postby Rhodmhire » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:32 am

Hydesland wrote:
The Godly Nations wrote:
Hydesland wrote:
The Godly Nations wrote:Isn't quite odd that white Liberals, generally well off, upper middle class, white collar workers born into generally well off, upper middle class, white collar families living in mostly white, upper middle class communities, seem to have a profound insight to the psyche of the poor and black (and especially the black poor)?


Are you claiming middle class white folks tend to be wiggers?


By Cloven-hoolves, what is a 'wigger'?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oogVyaMk3E


A generation of white teens and young adults who equate themselves to black rappers/gangster in attempts to be a part of sooociiety all to impress girls they know only hang around them because they're genuinely perfect when it comes to making complete assholes out of themselves a good 90% of the time.

Ah, America.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:37 am

The Godly Nations wrote:Isn't quite odd that white Liberals, generally well off, upper middle class, white collar workers born into generally well off, upper middle class, white collar families living in mostly white, upper middle class communities, seem to have a profound insight to the psyche of the poor and black (and especially the black poor)?


Clearly we should leave it up to conservatives to talk about race, since they're far more 'street' and don't have a bad historical record on race issues or anything.
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Postby Rhodmhire » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:42 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Clearly we should leave it up to conservatives to talk about race, since they're far more 'street' and don't have a bad historical record on race issues or anything.


Or we could all stop such prominent regression and just drop the issue as a whole as anything close to relevant or up for debate/discussion.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:45 am

Rhodmhire wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Clearly we should leave it up to conservatives to talk about race, since they're far more 'street' and don't have a bad historical record on race issues or anything.


Or we could all stop such prominent regression and just drop the issue as a whole as anything close to relevant or up for debate/discussion.


Um...are you saying racial inequalities and discrimination are going to go away if those in a position of power choose to ignore them?
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Postby Tokos » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:54 am

Rhodmhire wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Clearly we should leave it up to conservatives to talk about race, since they're far more 'street' and don't have a bad historical record on race issues or anything.


Or we could all stop such prominent regression and just drop the issue as a whole as anything close to relevant or up for debate/discussion.
How is race irrelevant? It's who you are. Obviously as we're not just animals blood isn't everything but you can't just ignore it.
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Postby Jordaxia » Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:03 am

The Godly Nations wrote:Isn't quite odd that white Liberals, generally well off, upper middle class, white collar workers born into generally well off, upper middle class, white collar families living in mostly white, upper middle class communities, seem to have a profound insight to the psyche of the poor and black (and especially the black poor)?


I know! It's almost like you can be privileged and have a sense of empathy at the same time!

Though, for what it's worth, I'm white and liberal, and come from a family that was distinctly below the poverty line.
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Postby Carlitonia » Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:40 am

Liberalism in the US =/= Liberalism in the rest of the world


FDR really fucked up the definition of liberalism.
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Postby Maurepas » Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:46 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Rhodmhire wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Clearly we should leave it up to conservatives to talk about race, since they're far more 'street' and don't have a bad historical record on race issues or anything.


Or we could all stop such prominent regression and just drop the issue as a whole as anything close to relevant or up for debate/discussion.


Um...are you saying racial inequalities and discrimination are going to go away if those in a position of power choose to ignore them?

I would say that it would be more efficient to focus on how much Wealth there is to go around, rather than race in particular...


If youre working on helping everyone who's poor, and it just so happens that the majority of them are of a particular race, so be it, noone can say you are helping them in particular, no harm no foul...

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Postby Natapoc » Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:48 am

OMGeverynameistaken wrote:Clearly liberals are racist.


Many actually are racist. The form of racism US Liberals typically engage in is the type of: Oh, you are not white, let us help you because you are not white. You can't do anything on your own so let us help you because you are not white. You must have grown up without a daddy because you are not white let me be your daddy patronizing type attitude. This is better than the attitude of the other types of racists of course because it can mostly be ignored but it is still racism.

These are the authoritarian "liberals" I'm talking about. They have the same attitude to anyone who is not rich and white and "able" like them. They don't really believe in equality they just want to feel good about themselves.

There are other "liberals" who are legit.
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Postby Rhodmhire » Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:58 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Rhodmhire wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Clearly we should leave it up to conservatives to talk about race, since they're far more 'street' and don't have a bad historical record on race issues or anything.


Or we could all stop such prominent regression and just drop the issue as a whole as anything close to relevant or up for debate/discussion.


Um...are you saying racial inequalities and discrimination are going to go away if those in a position of power choose to ignore them?


They're never going to go away.

We don't need to fool ourselves into thinking big powerful speeches or laws or statements are going to change that, I'm not saying they're going to go away, I'm not even saying they need to go away--nothing in that whole side of the spectrum.

I'm saying they don't need to bring them up, not in an attempt to destroy them, but just because it won't change anything for better or for worse. If anything, there's not much to discuss to begin with--hence, a good reason to not bring it up in the first place: lack of substance.

Perhaps it's not so much irrelevant as it is implausible to alter through a position of power, but it remains irrelevant as a factor of basic, and even more intricate, human action(s).
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Postby Rhodmhire » Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:03 pm

Tokos wrote:
Rhodmhire wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Clearly we should leave it up to conservatives to talk about race, since they're far more 'street' and don't have a bad historical record on race issues or anything.


Or we could all stop such prominent regression and just drop the issue as a whole as anything close to relevant or up for debate/discussion.
How is race irrelevant? It's who you are. Obviously as we're not just animals blood isn't everything but you can't just ignore it.


It's irrelevant in that it has no effect on who you are, how you operate, etc.

Sure there's historic memorization and cultural recognition if you're into that, and if you are that's fine by me. But I'm not big on either, as neither define who I am, how I operate, etc.

The color of my skin is, well, the coloration of my skin relative to the area of the world I live in and my biological genetics. It has absolutely no effect on me other than defining what color I am.

I see it as irrelevant, I see everyone as humans--race is no premise of judgement, or a premise of concern.

Unless of course I was beaten by someone and they ask for the race to specify who it was, but it might not even need to come down to that if I provide more intricate traits that link to said person, so much so that race becomes a minute addition rather than the aspect that determines whether said man is detectable or not.

I don't ignore it, I just don't see any continuous reason(s) to make it relevant or of concern.

You call it ignoring, I call it saving time and reservations in my mind for other, more progressive things.
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