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Should conservatism be banned in the United States?

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Parhe
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Should conservatism be illegal?

Postby Parhe » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:46 pm

Just wondering, how much of the Republican Party is Conservatism? I was told it was more a mix of economic liberalism and is more so reactionay. Difference being I thought conservatism retaining as it is at the time and reactionary being more so changing it to how it was in the past. Though I don't pay much attention to the definitions so I would like it if someone could clear it up for me.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:46 pm

Liriena wrote:
Jehuddah wrote:Hell no.
You "Liberals" are the real dictators, by even asking such a silly question you have proven it.

Don't you fucking dare generalize liberals, buddy.

He's not your buddy, pal.
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Postby Liriena » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:47 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
United States of Natan wrote:I agree.

The Liberals are doing just as much damage with their half-baked ideas.

Can we do humanity a favor and stop generalizing?
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Postby Cosara » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:48 pm

Parhe wrote:Just wondering, how much of the Republican Party is Conservatism? I was told it was more a mix of economic liberalism and is more so reactionay. Difference being I thought conservatism retaining as it is at the time and reactionary being more so changing it to how it was in the past. Though I don't pay much attention to the definitions so I would like it if someone could clear it up for me.

He doesn't care. His policy is to smite anything which could be considered conservative and establish a nation run by a single party system, consisting of only the Liberal Democracy Party (because the Democrats would be considered too Conservative and would be put to the smite)
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Postby Liriena » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:48 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Liriena wrote:Don't you fucking dare generalize liberals, buddy.

He's not your buddy, pal.

I beg your pardon?
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Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism


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Anachronous Rex
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Postby Anachronous Rex » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:59 pm

"Those who fight monsters should take care that they never become one. For when you stand and look long into the abyss, the abyss also looks into you."
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Postby Czechanada » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:00 pm

Anachronous Rex wrote:"Those who fight monsters should take care that they never become one. For when you stand and look long into the abyss, the abyss also looks into you."


Yes, George W. Bush made great quotes in his presidency.

All other philosophers should hang their heads in shame.
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Postby Cosara » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:04 pm

Czechanada wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:"Those who fight monsters should take care that they never become one. For when you stand and look long into the abyss, the abyss also looks into you."


Yes, George W. Bush made great quotes in his presidency.

All other philosophers should hang their heads in shame.

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, you ain't foolin me again." - George Dubya Bush
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Postby Divair » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:05 pm

Liriena wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:He's not your buddy, pal.

I beg your pardon?

Excuse me, mate.

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Postby Voldoviana » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:07 pm

Oh my god my fucking sides are in orbit.

Do the words Freedom of Speech mean anything?

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Postby Voldoviana » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:07 pm

Divair wrote:
Liriena wrote:I beg your pardon?

Excuse me, mate.

I'm not your mate, guy!

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Postby Czechanada » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:07 pm

Voldoviana wrote:Do the words Freedom of Speech mean anything?


Dat's dat demon talk of dem libtardz!
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Zweite Alaje
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:08 pm

Liriena wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:The Liberals are doing just as much damage with their half-baked ideas.

Can we do humanity a favor and stop generalizing?

If anyone has noticed, I'm not defending the "conservatives"...I don't like them either.
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Postby Tulija » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:09 pm

Conservatism should be derided, laughed at, ridiculed, cringed at, deplored, disrespected, philosophically and pragmatically critiqued, and finally, forgotten on history's ash heap. But illegal? No.

Unfortunately it is a factor of human psychology that over half of personality types in the population are conservative leaning; it is a fact of human nature that some people just cannot understand how things will always need progress until the world is perfect (which it won't be).
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National Socialists of America
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Postby National Socialists of America » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:09 pm

Yes. Radicalism is a good thing.
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Wehrmacht:
Total: 9,284,396
Active Duty: 780,752
Reserves: 8,503,644

Kriegsmarine:
Total: 3,182,934
Active Duty: 71,679
Reserves: 3,111,255
Total Ships: 473

Luftwaffe:
Total: 1,566,327
Active Duty: 189,062
Reserves: 1,377,265

Oh really? Which "oil" nation has America invaded and conquered lately? You must mean America, which will overtake the Middle East as the world's largest energy producer in 5 years. That America will invade countries?

Pathetic how people actually start to believe their own mindless BS.

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Postby Ixzara » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:10 pm

Voldoviana wrote:Oh my god my fucking sides are in orbit.

Do the words Freedom of Speech mean anything?

Sir, 'logic' and 'facts' have no place here. Please take your logic and facts and go to that corner over there and please enjoy the complimentary finger sammiches.
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But since we all came from Africa, it's a known fact that the best president is an African.
So we need a white African. And we have Obama! Har har har har.


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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:10 pm

Voldoviana wrote:Oh my god my fucking sides are in orbit.

Do the words Freedom of Speech mean anything?

No.
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Cosara
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Postby Cosara » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:11 pm

Tulija wrote:Conservatism should be derided, laughed at, ridiculed, cringed at, deplored, disrespected, philosophically and pragmatically critiqued, and finally, forgotten on history's ash heap.

And the repercussions of that would be shithole economies.
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Postby National Socialists of America » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:11 pm

Liriena wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:The Liberals are doing just as much damage with their half-baked ideas.

Can we do humanity a favor and stop generalizing?

On this site? Good luck with that.
Total Military Manpower: 14,033,657

Wehrmacht:
Total: 9,284,396
Active Duty: 780,752
Reserves: 8,503,644

Kriegsmarine:
Total: 3,182,934
Active Duty: 71,679
Reserves: 3,111,255
Total Ships: 473

Luftwaffe:
Total: 1,566,327
Active Duty: 189,062
Reserves: 1,377,265

Oh really? Which "oil" nation has America invaded and conquered lately? You must mean America, which will overtake the Middle East as the world's largest energy producer in 5 years. That America will invade countries?

Pathetic how people actually start to believe their own mindless BS.

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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:11 pm

Ixzara wrote:
Voldoviana wrote:Oh my god my fucking sides are in orbit.

Do the words Freedom of Speech mean anything?

Sir, 'logic' and 'facts' have no place here. Please take your logic and facts and go to that corner over there and please enjoy the complimentary finger sammiches.

*whispers* We're out of fingers. Will toes do?
Make Earth Great Again: Stop Continental Drift!
And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water ...
"Make yourself at home, Frank. Hit somebody." RIP Don Rickles
My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. ~ Carl Schurz
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Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:11 pm

Ideally, all ideologies other then ComPart should be banned. This would include most conservatives due to their often anti-big government stance and religious attitudes.
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Postby Ixzara » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:11 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Ixzara wrote:Sir, 'logic' and 'facts' have no place here. Please take your logic and facts and go to that corner over there and please enjoy the complimentary finger sammiches.

*whispers* We're out of fingers. Will toes do?

Close enough!
Norstal wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Fact, the best President in history was white. Fact, that proves white people are better at being president. Duh.

But since we all came from Africa, it's a known fact that the best president is an African.
So we need a white African. And we have Obama! Har har har har.


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Postby Anachronous Rex » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:11 pm

National Socialists of America wrote:Yes. Radicalism is a good thing.

Often it is.

This isn't really radical though. This is some bizarre form of liberal reactionaryism.
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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:13 pm

Anachronous Rex wrote:
National Socialists of America wrote:Yes. Radicalism is a good thing.

Often it is.

This isn't really radical though. This is some bizarre form of liberal reactionaryism.


Radically forward is preferable to reactionary backward.
Down with the Banderovists!
Remember Odessa!
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Voldoviana
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Postby Voldoviana » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:13 pm

Tulija wrote:Conservatism should be derided, laughed at, ridiculed, cringed at, deplored, disrespected, philosophically and pragmatically critiqued, and finally, forgotten on history's ash heap. But illegal? No.

Unfortunately it is a factor of human psychology that over half of personality types in the population are conservative leaning; it is a fact of human nature that some people just cannot understand how things will always need progress until the world is perfect (which it won't be).

So I guess H.L. Mencken, Cicero, Churchill, and other upon others upon others are just philosophically daft?

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