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Should conservatism be banned in the United States?

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Postby Libertarian California » Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:56 am

Normandium wrote:
Cosara wrote:Gravity is correct. Laws of Motion are correct. The problem I have is alienating over 50% of the population by teaching an opposing belief in schools.


Gravity, Motion, etc. are all theories, though.

And private schools force Christian belief on their kids, even quoting the bible in science classes.


Yes but you have a choice to not go to private schools. If you don't want Christianity, then don't go to that school.
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Postby Infinite eternity » Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:59 am

I think that while fiscal conservatism is needed, we should be socially moderate rather than conservative or liberal.

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Postby Zweite Alaje » Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:59 am

Morganutopia wrote:I believe in freedom, I must say "no" and your stupid!

"Freedom" doesn't mean anything.
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Postby Norstal » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:00 am

Libertarian California wrote:
Norstal wrote:You can't just ban an ideology. At least, not a mainstream one. Nazism was not mainstream.


You shouldn't be banning ideologies, period.

Never said that they should. Just saying that it'd be impossible. Just the same as banning air.
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Postby Late Roman Empire » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:00 am

Screensaver wrote:Conservatism does more evil than good in society and government. Conservatism is ultimately the main reason that the United States is perhaps one the least developed and most socially backward first countries. Conservatism is the reason the U.S. economy is in a recession and dragged so many other economies down with it and it is the reason that the U.S. is lags behind so many other countries in regards to women's rights, secular rights, and lgbt rights. Conservatism is also the reason that the U.S. is the only first world country without universal healthcare. True patriotism is wanting what is best for your country and the fact is that conservatism is the main reason that the United States is a failure compared to most other first world countries. After World War 2 Germany passed laws that were aimed at destroying National Socialism to prevent it from rising again. Should this be done against Conservatism in the United States? If the Republican Party was banned then the United States would see a lot of economic and social progress so it would be for the greater good in my opinion.


I disagree with practically everything that you just wrote, but I wouldn't try to ban your views. How does THAT make you feel?
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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:01 am

Late Roman Empire wrote:
Screensaver wrote:Conservatism does more evil than good in society and government. Conservatism is ultimately the main reason that the United States is perhaps one the least developed and most socially backward first countries. Conservatism is the reason the U.S. economy is in a recession and dragged so many other economies down with it and it is the reason that the U.S. is lags behind so many other countries in regards to women's rights, secular rights, and lgbt rights. Conservatism is also the reason that the U.S. is the only first world country without universal healthcare. True patriotism is wanting what is best for your country and the fact is that conservatism is the main reason that the United States is a failure compared to most other first world countries. After World War 2 Germany passed laws that were aimed at destroying National Socialism to prevent it from rising again. Should this be done against Conservatism in the United States? If the Republican Party was banned then the United States would see a lot of economic and social progress so it would be for the greater good in my opinion.


I disagree with practically everything that you just wrote, but I wouldn't try to ban your views. How does THAT make you feel?


Ban feelings.
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:03 am

Mavorpen wrote:
Late Roman Empire wrote:
I disagree with practically everything that you just wrote, but I wouldn't try to ban your views. How does THAT make you feel?


Ban feelings.


Emotions are a liberal conspiracy.

Hence Ron Paul is a champion of the right.
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:04 am

Ban conservatism? What other ideologies could possibly be next? Should there be only one ideology to believe in? :roll:

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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:07 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Arglorand wrote:And it's anything but a paradise.


North Korea has universal education, healthcare, 1/3 people in the military (a govt. provided job), production owned by 'the people' (the state), collectivist famrs and subsidized food. 99% literacy rate is among the world's best. Seems like a 'socialist paradise' to me.

Education in North Korea is universal and state funded, with a claimed national literacy rate of 99%.[14] The country has a national medical service and claims to offer free healthcare. Conflicting accounts report that patients must pay.[14] Many hospitals lack basic medicine, equipment, running water, and electricity due to economic problems and minimal budget allocation; at approximately 1 dollar per person per year, lower than that of most African countries.[15] Housing and food rations traditionally have been heavily subsidized.[14] The means of production are owned by the state through state-run enterprises and collectivized farms.[14] Food output is one of the lowest worldwide, with the UN estimating 16 million people requiring food aid.[16][17]

North Korean leader Kim Jong-Il adopted Songun, or "military-first" policy in order to strengthen the country and its government.[18] North Korea is the world's most militarized country, with a total of 9,495,000 active, reserve, and paramilitary personnel. Its active duty army of 1.21 million is the 4th largest in the world, after China, the U.S., and India.[19] It is a nuclear-weapons state and has an active space program.[20][21][22]

I was going to point out how various countries have similar things without being heavy in terms of their military and are free countries. As well as pointing out that North Korea isn't socialist. However, I have this funny tingly feeling inside of me that says you have already been told this multiple times throughout your time here at NSG and still fail to see how it ain't so, so I'm simply not going to bother.

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Postby Samuraikoku » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:08 am

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
Ban feelings.


Emotions are a liberal conspiracy.

Hence Ron Paul is a champion of the right.


Or a Jedi Master. *nods*

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Postby NVADF » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:11 am

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Morganutopia wrote:I believe in freedom, I must say "no" and your stupid!

"Freedom" doesn't mean anything.

In a sense I understand your saying: "we are all costrained by forces beyond our control so we should put more of an emphasis on our actual well being, not free will." But who has the authority to decide which constraints should be imposed? I beleive that the individual should be "free" in the sense that they should be free from the constraints imposed by governments.
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Postby Abatael » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:11 am

What an inane and senseless idea. No.
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Postby Agymnum » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:12 am

Abatael wrote:What an inane and senseless idea. No.


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Postby Harkonna » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:18 am

No, it shouldn't be illegal.

Moreover, drugs shouldn't be illegal. We should scrap all of these insane regulations, abolish minimum wage laws, and drastically work to reduce inflation.
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Postby NVADF » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:20 am

Harkonna wrote:No, it shouldn't be illegal.

Moreover, drugs shouldn't be illegal. We should scrap all of these insane regulations, abolish minimum wage laws, and drastically work to reduce inflation.

Hear, Hear
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Postby Oceania-Eurasia-Eastasia » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:24 am

Screensaver wrote:Conservatism does more evil than good in society and government.


Source?

Conservatism is ultimately the main reason that the United States is perhaps one the least developed and most socially backward first countries.


So if America is the least developed and most socially backward, how then...

Conservatism is the reason the U.S. economy is in a recession and dragged so many other economies down with it


...does it drag down the economies of alleged "more developed and socially progressive first countries?" They're so developed and socially progressive that America can bring them down?

....and it is the reason that the U.S. is lags behind so many other countries in regards to women's rights, secular rights, and lgbt rights.


Which do what? Develop a nation or make it socially progressive? Source?

Conservatism is also the reason that the U.S. is the only first world country without universal healthcare.


Even though universal health began as a conservative idea?

True patriotism is wanting what is best for your country and the fact is that conservatism is the main reason that the United States is a failure compared to most other first world countries.


Source?

After World War 2 Germany passed laws that were aimed at destroying National Socialism to prevent it from rising again.


Source?

Should this be done against Conservatism in the United States? If the Republican Party was banned then the United States would see a lot of economic and social progress so it would be for the greater good in my opinion.


Nonsense.
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Postby Bojikami » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:35 am

Duvniask wrote:
Bojikami wrote:Yes.


(If serious)

Why?

I'm not serious, in my opinion, I really don't give a damn what you believe in, as long as you're not shoving it down someones throat.
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Postby Normandium » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:36 am

Libertarian California wrote:
Normandium wrote:
Gravity, Motion, etc. are all theories, though.

And private schools force Christian belief on their kids, even quoting the bible in science classes.


Yes but you have a choice to not go to private schools. If you don't want Christianity, then don't go to that school.


The children don't get a choice, though.

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Postby Arglorand » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:36 am

Bojikami wrote:
Duvniask wrote:
(If serious)

Why?

I'm not serious, in my opinion, I really don't give a damn what you believe in, as long as you're not shoving it down someones throat.

Well, you're in Russia.

Banning conservatives would have the huge plus of sending Putin and United Russia flying out the window.
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Postby Abatael » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:36 am

Normandium wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
Yes but you have a choice to not go to private schools. If you don't want Christianity, then don't go to that school.


The children don't get a choice, though.


Why would they?
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:37 am

When I clicked on this I thought it was a Bluth thread...
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Postby Duvniask » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:37 am

Bojikami wrote:
Duvniask wrote:
(If serious)

Why?

I'm not serious, in my opinion, I really don't give a damn what you believe in, as long as you're not shoving it down someones throat.


*Shrugs*
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Postby Arglorand » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:39 am

Regnum Dominae wrote:When I clicked on this I thought it was a Bluth thread...

Was close enough to the truth.
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Postby Condunum » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:40 am

Great Nepal wrote:
Kalmarium wrote:^This

While I disagree with banning it, why is change without opposition bad?

Since it seems like no one answered this, I suppose I will. Change without opposition can be unchecked and extremely speedy. Speedy change can be pretty damn unstable, which is A Bad Thing. Conservativism, at least in the original sense, is basically the speed limit for progressivism.
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Postby Bojikami » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:42 am

Arglorand wrote:
Bojikami wrote:I'm not serious, in my opinion, I really don't give a damn what you believe in, as long as you're not shoving it down someones throat.

Well, you're in Russia.

Banning conservatives would have the huge plus of sending Putin and United Russia flying out the window.

Exactly. Banning it in Russia I support, as for america,meh.
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