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Postby The Broken Imperial Sector » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:42 pm

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Wamitoria wrote:WH40K. Don't be hating.

The Imperial guard are a nightmarish blend between American Nationalism, Soviet Brutality and Nazi Styling. The confusing should be understandable :P

The IG and Imperium are awsome hell they have to be that way in order to be able to fight against billions of aliens all over the galaxy.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:42 pm

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Condunum wrote:A young poster who has a Nazi parade flag, regularly says ignorant and extremely misinformed things and is displaying some sort of form of closet racism didn't know he was wanting to go back to when whites had all the rights.

Suuuuure.

Well hell I can't just say on here "I would love to go back to the 1950s where me and my race were still on top" I would get banned most likely just like always...

It would at least be honest. And I don't think that's an actionable statement. I wouldn't report you. I'd like to slap you but I wouldn't report you.
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Postby Condunum » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:42 pm

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Wamitoria wrote:WH40K. Don't be hating.

Hell ya IG all the way for the Imperium and the God Emperor!

The God Emperor would probably have you shot for that.
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:42 pm

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Zweite Alaje wrote:I don't believe I was talking to you.

Is not an answer to that question.

As I said I wasn't responding to them, it none is their concern.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:43 pm

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Ifreann wrote:He's not. He's making up bullshit, and pretending that in an imaginary future where white people are a minority, everyone is going to discriminate against us and call it comeuppance. It's just a ludicrous fantasy in the service of a persecution complex.


It makes perfect sense when looking at the demographic trends that White people will become even more of a minority globally than they are now, the only question is- will that mean worse treatment for White people? My expectation is that yes, any skin color which sticks out from the crowd does provoke negative reactions.

The main reason Whites in the US have their privilege is simply because they are the majority group. But once they are the fewest in number, that privilege will quickly cease to exist and it will instead go to the new majority group which will be free to assert itself against those in the minority.

So let me get this straight. You're literally whining that you won't have privileges anymore. Are you fucking kidding me? That doesn't sound the least bit racist to you?
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Postby Condunum » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:43 pm

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Condunum wrote:The Imperial guard are a nightmarish blend between American Nationalism, Soviet Brutality and Nazi Styling. The confusing should be understandable :P

The IG and Imperium are awsome hell they have to be that way in order to be able to fight against billions of aliens all over the galaxy.

Tau. Argument invalid.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:43 pm

The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:
Condunum wrote:A young poster who has a Nazi parade flag, regularly says ignorant and extremely misinformed things and is displaying some sort of form of closet racism didn't know he was wanting to go back to when whites had all the rights.

Suuuuure.

Well hell I can't just say on here "I would love to go back to the 1950s where me and my race were still on top" I would get banned most likely just like always...

Maybe stop saying racist shit if you don't want people treating you like you say racist shit.
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Postby The Broken Imperial Sector » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:43 pm

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The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:Well hell I can't just say on here "I would love to go back to the 1950s where me and my race were still on top" I would get banned most likely just like always...

It would at least be honest. And I don't think that's an actionable statement. I wouldn't report you. I'd like to slap you but I wouldn't report you.

Oh i'd like for you to slap me and then me and you can have a go at each other with swords and guns...
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:43 pm

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Prussia-Steinbach wrote:You obviously aren't an American, but talk as if you have person experience with this.

Anyway, Affirmative Action, I believe, is unnecessary as well as wrong. The vast majority of business owners and college admissions offices nowadays are not so racist that they would deny someone employment or admission to a school specifically because of their race. Outlawing discrimination is impractical, unnecessary and wrong.

More so state sponsored discrimination based off history... Cause apparently it is okay when your ancestors were oppressed by the ancestors of another group...

Why does it matter what our ancestors did...? I haven't oppressed anyone. No American alive today has legally kept slaves. Segregation is entirely done away with, and no prominent politician would even think of supporting it. Why should anyone have to pay for the sins of those that came before them?
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:43 pm

Technocratic Primacy wrote:AA is not only illogical, but is actually damaging to minorities. More often than not, the degrees earned by blacks and Hispanics are looked at as less valuable because they gained them through Affirmative Action, and thus business owners will hire someone they believe has actually earned their degree as opposed to having it handed to them.

Educational institutions are not allowed to use racial quotas. Haven't been in quite some time. And even if that were so, they would still have to pass their courses and earn their degrees. There is no "handed to them."
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Postby Condunum » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:44 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Condunum wrote:Is not an answer to that question.

As I said I wasn't responding to them, it none is their concern.

Then why are you posting it?

Oh, right, it's so you can try to be a smug fucking asshole when someone calls you out on it and go, "NUH-UH, I DON'T HAVE TO CUZ I'M NOT TALKUN TU U"
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:44 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Segregation is entirely done away with,

Hi, reality called.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby The Broken Imperial Sector » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:44 pm

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The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:The IG and Imperium are awsome hell they have to be that way in order to be able to fight against billions of aliens all over the galaxy.

Tau. Argument invalid.

Tau crumble in C.Q.B and the guard do one hell of a job at geting up close. so do the Orks the Tyrnanids and Chaos hordes.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:45 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:You obviously aren't an American, but talk as if you have person experience with this.

Anyway, Affirmative Action, I believe, is unnecessary as well as wrong. The vast majority of business owners and college admissions offices nowadays are not so racist that they would deny someone employment or admission to a school specifically because of their race. Outlawing discrimination is impractical, unnecessary and wrong.

Source?

Seriously, the vast majority of the evidence disagrees with you.

I'm speaking from personal experience and the experiences of those around me.
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Postby Parhe » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:45 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Parhe wrote:More so state sponsored discrimination based off history... Cause apparently it is okay when your ancestors were oppressed by the ancestors of another group...

Ancestors? Affirmative Action was created about 50 years ago to deal with problems in modern society. I daresay a great many of those who discriminated and were discriminated against are still alive. Ancestors, right.

That was more a stick towards the posters here using slavery as part the reasoning for continuation of AA.
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Prussia-Steinbach wrote:

I'm speaking from personal experience and the experiences of those around me.

Then your post amounts to jack shit in terms of value.
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Postby Wamitoria » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:45 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Why should anyone have to pay for the sins of those that came before them?

Because the scars are still here. And most haven't healed properly.
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Postby Condunum » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:45 pm

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Condunum wrote:Tau. Argument invalid.

Tau crumble in C.Q.B and the guard do one hell of a job at geting up close. so do the Orks the Tyrnanids and Chaos hordes.

No they don't. Kroot. Their battle tactic works well. Not the topic of the thread, either.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:45 pm

Parhe wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Ancestors? Affirmative Action was created about 50 years ago to deal with problems in modern society. I daresay a great many of those who discriminated and were discriminated against are still alive. Ancestors, right.

That was more a stick towards the posters here using slavery as part the reasoning for continuation of AA.

And yet it made you look as if you don't know what you're talking about, not them. Funny, that.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:46 pm

Technocratic Primacy wrote:AA is not only illogical, but is actually damaging to minorities. More often than not, the degrees earned by blacks and Hispanics are looked at as less valuable because they gained them through Affirmative Action, and thus business owners will hire someone they believe has actually earned their degree as opposed to having it handed to them.

Sounds like the problem there is business owners failing to realise that degrees don't get handed out to minority groups for free, and with that kind of masterful genius behind the business, I expect it'll go tits up in no time. Problem solved.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:46 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:

I'm speaking from personal experience and the experiences of those around me.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data."
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:47 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Segregation is entirely done away with,

Hi, reality called.

As if that isn't a miraculously isolated incident.
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Postby Parhe » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:47 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Parhe wrote:That was more a stick towards the posters here using slavery as part the reasoning for continuation of AA.

And yet it made you look as if you don't know what you're talking about, not them. Funny, that.

Oh thank you. Someone got my tries at humor. Perhaps you aren't as bad as I put you up to be though still a bit too bitter for my tastes.
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Postby Condunum » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:47 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:

As if that isn't a miraculously isolated incident.

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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:47 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:

As if that isn't a miraculously isolated incident.

Oh, so you don't know what the word "entirely" means?

Then don't fucking use it.
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