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Are mice smarter than Humans per cc brainsize?

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Do you think Mice are Smarter than Humans on a cc of Brain basis?

yes, if a mouse had a brain the size of a human they would be further along than we are...
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Are mice smarter than Humans per cc brainsize?

Postby Almagarde » Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:53 am

Here is the big question: Do you think mice are smarter than humans on a cubic centimetre of brain scale?

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Postby Risottia » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:03 am

Almagarde wrote:Here is the big question: Do you think mice are smarter than humans on a cubic centimetre of brain scale?


The question is idiotic per se. There's no correlation between brain volume and intelligence.
There is a correlation, though, between average brain volume of the primates and the population of the typical group those primates tend to live in. The larger the brain, the larger the tribe.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:06 am

Has someone been reading Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy?

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Postby Sun Aut Ex » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:49 am

It annoys me went people try to belittle human intelligence like this. Even the smartest animals don't even come close to matching human intelligence.
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Postby CornixPes II » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:10 am

1. There is no correlation between brain volume and intelligence.
2. You do not take into account the percentage of the brain in active use.
3. How do you measure intelligence on a scale that you can fit both species?

Not really a scientific question.

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Postby Hairless Kitten II » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:20 am

Almagarde wrote:Here is the big question: Do you think mice are smarter than humans on a cubic centimetre of brain scale?


No. Because you forgot an important factor: size of the specie. We, humans, have an enormous brain compared to our size of our body.

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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:11 pm

Your poll isn't very good. Their brains may very well have higher computing power per cubic centimeter, however, that doesn't imply that they would be any better at creating an advanced society. Theres a lot more that goes into it- like cooperation, and I don't think mice really have that going on. HK also rightfully pointed out, that their actual brain would have to grow to a size comparable to ours, as opposed to them being simply giant mice, since brain to weight ratio is important.

Having opposable thumbs helps too.
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Postby Call to power » Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:18 pm

my cat seems to be pretty good at outsmarting them and he didn't go to school or anything

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mice 0

Risottia wrote:The larger the brain, the larger the tribe.


so San Marino is a retard?
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:19 pm

Call to power wrote:
Risottia wrote:The larger the brain, the larger the tribe.


so San Marino is a retard?


Always knew those Chinese were smart people...
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Postby Rogue Syrup » Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:38 pm

Depends how you define or measure smartness.

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Postby New Kereptica » Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:47 pm

1. Quantify intelligence.
2. Measure the average intelligence of humans and mice.
3. Find some average measures for brain volume.
4. Do the goddamn division yourself.
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Postby Chrobalta » Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:56 pm

They don't have opposable thumbs... VICTORY FOR THE HUMAN RACE!!!! DEATH TO MICE!!!
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Postby Tech-gnosis » Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:24 pm

Hairless Kitten II wrote:No. Because you forgot an important factor: size of the specie. We, humans, have an enormous brain compared to our size of our body.


Mice have a larger brain when compared to their body size than we do.
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Postby Rogue Syrup » Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:25 pm

Tech-gnosis wrote:
Mice have a larger brain when compared to their body size than we do.

why?

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Postby Maurepas » Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:26 pm

Are mice smarter than Humans? New study shows, no they are not...

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Postby Tech-gnosis » Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:28 pm

Rogue Syrup wrote:why?


What are you asking? Why do they have such big brains? How do I know they have bigger brains compared to their bodies than we do?

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Postby Takaram » Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:30 pm

If a mouse, a normal sized mouse, had a human-sized brain, it might be smarter than a human. However, they do not, and they are not smarter than humans.

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Postby Rogue Syrup » Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:31 pm

Tech-gnosis wrote:
Rogue Syrup wrote:why?


What are you asking? Why do they have such big brains? How do I know they have bigger brains compared to their bodies than we do?

Why do they have larger brains than humans in proportion to body size?

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Postby Strykla » Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:34 pm

Have you heard that humans have only managed to use 5-7% of their brain capacity?
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Postby Tech-gnosis » Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:35 pm

Rogue Syrup wrote:Why do they have larger brains than humans in proportion to body size?


No idea.

Here's a source about the brain size of various animals, including humans, when compared to their bodies: http://www.highnorth.no/Library/Myths/br-si-bo.htm

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Postby Hairless Kitten II » Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:40 pm

Strykla wrote:Have you heard that humans have only managed to use 5-7% of their brain capacity?


Maybe you, but not we. No, seriously we use 100% of its capacity. Most is for vision.

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Postby Rogue Syrup » Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:43 pm

Hairless Kitten II wrote:
Strykla wrote:Have you heard that humans have only managed to use 5-7% of their brain capacity?


Maybe you, but not we. No, seriously we use 100% of its capacity. Most is for vision.

source?

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Postby Hairless Kitten II » Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:44 pm

Tech-gnosis wrote:
Hairless Kitten II wrote:No. Because you forgot an important factor: size of the specie. We, humans, have an enormous brain compared to our size of our body.


Mice have a larger brain when compared to their body size than we do.


No, they don't.

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Postby Rogue Syrup » Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:45 pm

Strykla wrote:Have you heard that humans have only managed to use 5-7% of their brain capacity?

source?

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Postby Hairless Kitten II » Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:46 pm

Rogue Syrup wrote:
Hairless Kitten II wrote:
Strykla wrote:Have you heard that humans have only managed to use 5-7% of their brain capacity?


Maybe you, but not we. No, seriously we use 100% of its capacity. Most is for vision.

source?


http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/tenper.html

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