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Postby Khadgar » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:15 am

EnragedMaldivians wrote:
Disserbia wrote:Joe Biden/magical arc of empty promises 2016!

Just please not Hildawg. Oh hell no.


What's wrong with Hillary? She's great.


She's entirely too pro-censorship for my liking.

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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:17 am

Khadgar wrote:
EnragedMaldivians wrote:
What's wrong with Hillary? She's great.


She's entirely too pro-censorship for my liking.
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:17 am

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All the Catos were prats.
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I would no more take political or economic advice from someone or something called "Cato" than I would from my cat.


OK, I have other sites about Coolidge's economic plans (led by Secretary Mellon):

http://www.economicfreedom.org/2012/05/ ... the-proud/

http://news.investors.com/management-le ... htm?p=full

• Top marginal income tax rates were lowered from 73% to 24%.

• By the end of his term, 98% of the population paid no income tax at all.

• The federal budget was reduced by 35%.

• Per capita income increased more than 30%.

• Unemployment averaged 3.3%.

• GNP grew at the fastest compound rate of any eight-year period in U.S. history."


http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/h ... -president
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Postby Bering » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:31 am

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Bering wrote:Personally I would like either Biden (his age might be an issue though, wont he be in his early 70s then?) or (Bill) Clinton a great (and technically illegal but who cares about that? :p ) return!

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Couldn't Bill run for VP? Gore/Clinton 2016!

I think if you have been president for a certain amount of year (I think 4 or 6) than you can not become the VP, but I am not sure :unsure:

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:33 am

EnragedMaldivians wrote:
Disserbia wrote:Joe Biden/magical arc of empty promises 2016!

Just please not Hildawg. Oh hell no.


What's wrong with Hillary? She's great.


I wouldn't say great. I mean she is a woman after all, plus don't forget about the snuke up her snatch.

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Postby Disserbia » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:35 am

EnragedMaldivians wrote:
Disserbia wrote:Joe Biden/magical arc of empty promises 2016!

Just please not Hildawg. Oh hell no.


What's wrong with Hillary? She's great.

You are welcome to your opinion.
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Postby EnragedMaldivians » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:39 am

Disserbia wrote:
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What's wrong with Hillary? She's great.

You are welcome to your opinion.


I was just curious as to why you (and a lot of other people) don't like her.

You really are a charm these days...-__-
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:48 am

What Would Really Happen If Ron Paul Were To Be Elected President?

http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi192.html

More people here shouldn't forget Dr. Paul.
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Postby Khadgar » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:49 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:What Would Really Happen If Ron Paul Were To Be Elected President?

http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi192.html

More people here shouldn't forget Dr. Paul.


Considering how much of his fortune he had invested in gold, and the way gold tanked recently. I doubt he'll be able to afford another go.

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Postby EnragedMaldivians » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:50 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:What Would Really Happen If Ron Paul Were To Be Elected President?

http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi192.html

More people here shouldn't forget Dr. Paul.


What would happen if a polar-bear were elected President?

Why fret ourselves with outrageously unlikely hypotheticals?
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:51 am

Khadgar wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:What Would Really Happen If Ron Paul Were To Be Elected President?

http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi192.html

More people here shouldn't forget Dr. Paul.


Considering how much of his fortune he had invested in gold, and the way gold tanked recently. I doubt he'll be able to afford another go.

He's retired. He'll be sitting in Rand's office having conversations like the one toward the end of The Godfather where Vito is telling Michael how to run things and keeps repeating himself.
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:59 am

EnragedMaldivians wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:What Would Really Happen If Ron Paul Were To Be Elected President?

http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi192.html

More people here shouldn't forget Dr. Paul.


What would happen if a polar-bear were elected President?

Why fret ourselves with outrageously unlikely hypotheticals?


Dr. Paul has the same rights as anybody else that is legally able to run for president. We are speculating about potential candidates and not about their odds of winning.

Why not Dr. Paul? He has more experience in politics than Obama and yet Obama still won. This proves 'miracles' can happen. It all depends on who the media wants to win (since most voters are sheep and will do whatever the mainstream media wants).
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:59 am

Khadgar wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:
He likely would have supported Calvin Coolidge and Secretary Mellon's economic policies (possibly the most free market president in US history). Why is this good? Take a look:

http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/1920s-income-tax-cuts-sparked-economic-growth-raised-federal-revenues

The tax cuts allowed the U.S. economy to grow rapidly during the mid- and late-1920s. Between 1922 and 1929, real gross national product grew at an annual average rate of 4.7 percent and the unemployment rate fell from 6.7 percent to 3.2 percent. The Mellon tax cuts restored incentives to work, save, and invest, and discouraged the use of tax shelters.

During the same period, the number of taxpayers earning between $10,000 and $100,000 increased 84 percent, while the number reporting income of less than $10,000 fell.


You do remember what those policies led to right?

Eternal peace and prosperity?
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:01 pm

Freiheit Reich wrote:What Would Really Happen If Ron Paul Were To Be Elected President?

http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi192.html

More people here shouldn't forget Dr. Paul.


Wikkiwallana wrote:I hate to pretend I don't enjoy bursting your bubbles, but Ron Paul is retired and will not be running ever again.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:02 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Khadgar wrote:
You do remember what those policies led to right?

Eternal peace and prosperity?


To the jackass Hoover, who probably turned a simply market decline into a great depression with his lousy monetary and fiscal policies.

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Postby Myrensis » Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:02 pm

Freiheit Reich wrote:What Would Really Happen If Ron Paul Were To Be Elected President?

http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi192.html

More people here shouldn't forget Dr. Paul.


It would create a new era of bipartisanship in this country as Republicans and Democrats joined together to stop him from doing anything. His policies are anathema to Democrats, and Republicans only like them insofar as they're useful for throwing a bone to Tea Party trolls.

Though that article is tremendously amusing. He's going to abolish taxation, return to the gold standard, and allow multiple forms of currency with variable value, then turn around and pay for a complete overhaul of the nations infrastructure with...happy thoughts and wishful thinking?

Especially enjoyed the "Global markets would soar just on the announcement of a Ron Paul presidency!". Because yeah, nothing will restore market confidence like the thought of an isolationist, protectionist America bound by the gold standard.

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Postby Khadgar » Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:02 pm

Freiheit Reich wrote:
EnragedMaldivians wrote:
What would happen if a polar-bear were elected President?

Why fret ourselves with outrageously unlikely hypotheticals?


Dr. Paul has the same rights as anybody else that is legally able to run for president. We are speculating about potential candidates and not about their odds of winning.

Why not Dr. Paul? He has more experience in politics than Obama and yet Obama still won. This proves 'miracles' can happen. It all depends on who the media wants to win (since most voters are sheep and will do whatever the mainstream media wants).


Because he's batshit crazy, his economic and spending ideas would completely destroy the US economy, and he's only marginally younger than Methuselah.

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Postby Transhuman Proteus » Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:02 pm

Freiheit Reich wrote:What Would Really Happen If Ron Paul Were To Be Elected President?

http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi192.html

More people here shouldn't forget Dr. Paul.


What should we remember? That he'd be in his 80s? How many times he's failed? Or how generally terrible he'd be and his questionable views?

Best he stay as the Grandpa Simpson of politics.
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:06 pm

Rand Paul is might run:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... ntial-odds

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-575 ... l-nominee/

The fact he endorsed Romney is a HUGE concern though. Romney is better than Obama but still has alot of flaws (Romneycare is a huge one).

http://www.businessinsider.com/why-rand ... ney-2012-6
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:07 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:Eternal peace and prosperity?


To the jackass Hoover, who probably turned a simply market decline into a great depression with his lousy monetary and fiscal policies.

Oddly enough, being President was the job Hoover did the worst at in his long career. Prior to being elected he was successful at everything he did. He himself admitted that he should have stayed out of public life.
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Postby Khadgar » Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:07 pm

Transhuman Proteus wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:What Would Really Happen If Ron Paul Were To Be Elected President?

http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi192.html

More people here shouldn't forget Dr. Paul.


What should we remember? That he'd be in his 80s? How many times he's failed? Or how generally terrible he'd be and his questionable views?

Best he stay as the Grandpa Simpson of politics.


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Postby Freiheit Reich » Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:11 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Khadgar wrote:
You do remember what those policies led to right?

Eternal peace and prosperity?


Market corrections are normal and teach people to not follow the bubble. Invest only what you can afford to lose. If you put all your money in playing the market you have to acceot that you will go to the poorhouse if the market crashes. People got greedy and the pigs were slaughtered. Don't feel bad for the pigs.

The free market would have solved the depression much faster. Hoover increased taxes and put up trade barriers. Hoover's policies made the depression much worse. Hoover gets more blame than Coolidge for the depression. FDR made the depression even worse by increasing taxes much more.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:13 pm

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:Eternal peace and prosperity?


Market corrections are normal and teach people to not follow the bubble. Invest only what you can afford to lose. If you put all your money in playing the market you have to acceot that you will go to the poorhouse if the market crashes. People got greedy and the pigs were slaughtered. Don't feel bad for the pigs.

The free market would have solved the depression much faster. Hoover increased taxes and put up trade barriers. Hoover's policies made the depression much worse. Hoover gets more blame than Coolidge for the depression. FDR made the depression even worse by increasing taxes much more.


Hey, there we go. Somebody who actually mentions Hoover as a progressive Republican who probably turned a dip into a depression. FDR certainly prolonged it, then again, the US needed a degree of industrialization to prepare for WW2. And the market doesn't always reflect national needs.

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Postby Transhuman Proteus » Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:13 pm

Freiheit Reich wrote:Rand Paul is might run:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... ntial-odds

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-575 ... l-nominee/

The fact he endorsed Romney is a HUGE concern though. Romney is better than Obama but still has alot of flaws (Romneycare is a huge one).

http://www.businessinsider.com/why-rand ... ney-2012-6


Silly, he can't run, he'll be too busy forcing the UN to continue cracking down on people using his name on the internet without his permission or whatever that stupid thing was he was doing.

Wait, thinking of the wrong Paul.
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Postby Khadgar » Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:18 pm

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:Eternal peace and prosperity?


Market corrections are normal and teach people to not follow the bubble. Invest only what you can afford to lose. If you put all your money in playing the market you have to acceot that you will go to the poorhouse if the market crashes. People got greedy and the pigs were slaughtered. Don't feel bad for the pigs.

The free market would have solved the depression much faster. Hoover increased taxes and put up trade barriers. Hoover's policies made the depression much worse. Hoover gets more blame than Coolidge for the depression. FDR made the depression even worse by increasing taxes much more.


Ah yes, the magical free market which caused the crash would have fixed it up in no time.

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