2016 Presidental canidates

[Northern Molovsky]

1. Another point I can agree upon, I oppose enforced atheism, not secular systems as a whole, its just there have been some cases where administrators have gone out of their way to oppose individual religious prayers.
2. How do you define disrupt?

Can you source the principals going out of their way to disrupt religious prayer?
Praying loudly during class, doing anything that gets in the way of teaching a class.

is your nations name wamitoria?

[Benomia]

Samuel Webb.

Why would a communist want a revisionist elected? D:

Just to make a point.

[Wamitoria]

1. I'm not sure how that would work. Would bible club be a school sponsored club or would a bunch of students just use some space to gather and talk about their faith? IIRC, the latter is perfectly fine under US law.
2. Yeah. I'm pretty sure they are as long as it doesn't disrupt school activities.

1. Another point I can agree upon, I oppose enforced atheism, not secular systems as a whole, its just there have been some cases where administrators have gone out of their way to oppose individual religious prayers.
2. How do you define disrupt?

1 and 2.

I don't know what your experiences were, but at my high school people usually prayed silently or under their breath at certain times (before tests, usually) and disruption would be defined as breaking out into prayer during the middle of a lesson, speaking in tongues during a lesson, etc.

But school administrators going on power trips are, unfortunately, a common occurrence in the US. If you're trying to form a bible club that would meet at your school but does not require school sponsorship, I believe you have the law on your side.

[Towson]

Marco Rubio 2016.

Also No Poll?

[Wamitoria]

Can you source the principals going out of their way to disrupt religious prayer?
Praying loudly during class, doing anything that gets in the way of teaching a class.

is your nations name wamitoria?

No, but mine is. And this is a forum. Other people will barge in on conversations like that.

[Wamitoria]

Marco Rubio 2016.

Also No Poll?

Too. Many. Potential. Candidates.

[Farnhamia]

Marco Rubio 2016.

Also No Poll?

Yes, please. Hillary or Joe will wipe the floor with him. Do you think Hispanics are that stupid, that they'll for the guy just because he shares a certain ethnicity with them? That's like running Sarah Palin because, you know, all the disappointed Hillary Clinton supporters would just flock to the GOP.

[Neutraligon]

Can you source the principals going out of their way to disrupt religious prayer?
Praying loudly during class, doing anything that gets in the way of teaching a class.

is your nations name wamitoria?

No this is an open discussion on a forum. Thus I can ask you questions about what you have written. If you want a private discussion, TG the person.

[Neutraligon]

Marco Rubio 2016.

Also No Poll?

Yes, please. Hillary or Joe will wipe the floor with him. Do you think Hispanics are that stupid, that they'll for the guy just because he shares a certain ethnicity with them? That's like running Sarah Palin because, you know, all the disappointed Hillary Clinton supporters would just flock to the GOP.

might have worked...if she wasn't such a big idiot.

[Choronzon]

Marco Rubio 2016.

Also No Poll?

Yes, please. Hillary or Joe will wipe the floor with him. Do you think Hispanics are that stupid, that they'll for the guy just because he shares a certain ethnicity with them?

Of coure they think Hispanics are that stupid.

That's like running Sarah Palin because, you know, all the disappointed Hillary Clinton supporters would just flock to the GOP.

This is the proof that they think Hispanics are this stupid.

[Maurepas]

Marco Rubio 2016.

Also No Poll?

Yes, please. Hillary or Joe will wipe the floor with him. Do you think Hispanics are that stupid, that they'll for the guy just because he shares a certain ethnicity with them? That's like running Sarah Palin because, you know, all the disappointed Hillary Clinton supporters would just flock to the GOP.

I think John McCain tried that once.

[Choronzon]

Yes, please. Hillary or Joe will wipe the floor with him. Do you think Hispanics are that stupid, that they'll for the guy just because he shares a certain ethnicity with them? That's like running Sarah Palin because, you know, all the disappointed Hillary Clinton supporters would just flock to the GOP.

might have worked...if she wasn't such a big idiot.

And if she wasn't a Republican.

[Uieurnthlaal]

Marco Rubio 2016.

Also No Poll?

Too. Many. Potential. Candidates.

The democrats' option is obvious: Hillary Clinton.
However, the Republicans could pick so many candidates that its impossible to guess. Rubio? Bush? Ryan? Jindal? Its far too early to even start to guess.

[Northern Molovsky]

1. Another point I can agree upon, I oppose enforced atheism, not secular systems as a whole, its just there have been some cases where administrators have gone out of their way to oppose individual religious prayers.
2. How do you define disrupt?

1 and 2.

I don't know what your experiences were, but at my high school people usually prayed silently or under their breath at certain times (before tests, usually) and disruption would be defined as breaking out into prayer during the middle of a lesson, speaking in tongues during a lesson, etc.

But school administrators going on power trips are, unfortunately, a common occurrence in the US. If you're trying to form a bible club that would meet at your school but does not require school sponsorship, I believe you have the law on your side.

Yes I know that it is a public space, but still I was asking for your opinion, not his. And no I am not trying to form a bible club, just interested in the right of people being able to pray & as you pointed out and I have witnessed firsthand, administrators abusing their power is definitely a problem, especially when used to project their personal bias's onto others.

[Mkuki]

Marco Rubio 2016.

Also No Poll?

Yes, please. Hillary or Joe will wipe the floor with him. Do you think Hispanics are that stupid, that they'll for the guy just because he shares a certain ethnicity with them? That's like running Sarah Palin because, you know, all the disappointed Hillary Clinton supporters would just flock to the GOP.

Is that why McCain chose her? I agree, though. Just like Rand Paul, Marco Rubio doesn't have a chance in hell at winning the nomination.

One thing I've been wondering as of late is whether he is considered a Tea Partier. He's always seemed too moderate for those nutjobs. Relatively speaking of course.

[Benomia]

I would actually want either Brent Allison, Gary Johnson, Doug Barnes, Jack Barnes, or anyone from the RCP.

[Neutraligon]

Too. Many. Potential. Candidates.

The democrats' option is obvious: Hillary Clinton.
However, the Republicans could pick so many candidates that its impossible to guess. Rubio? Bush? Ryan? Jindal? Its far too early to even start to guess.

Not necessarily, depends if she wants to run, and if in the next few years someone else pops up. Also depends on what happens during the next few years.

[Wamitoria]

1 and 2.

I don't know what your experiences were, but at my high school people usually prayed silently or under their breath at certain times (before tests, usually) and disruption would be defined as breaking out into prayer during the middle of a lesson, speaking in tongues during a lesson, etc.

But school administrators going on power trips are, unfortunately, a common occurrence in the US. If you're trying to form a bible club that would meet at your school but does not require school sponsorship, I believe you have the law on your side.

Yes I kniw that it is a public space, but still I was asking for your opinion, not his. And no I am not trying to form a bible club, just interested in the right of people being able to pray & as you pointed out and I have witnessed firsthand, seeing administrators abuse their power is definitely a problem, especially when used to project their personal bias's onto others.

My opinion is in complete agreement with the law. People should pray wherever they want as long as their prayer isn't a massive disruption or isn't designed to shame me or any other non-believers publicly.

And bible clubs are fine as long as they aren't school-sponsored and seen as a state endorsement of religion.

[Wamitoria]

The democrats' option is obvious: Hillary Clinton.
However, the Republicans could pick so many candidates that its impossible to guess. Rubio? Bush? Ryan? Jindal? Its far too early to even start to guess.

Not necessarily, depends if she wants to run, and if in the next few years someone else pops up. Also depends on what happens during the next few years.

She's probably going to run. Although a Brian Schweitzer v. Chris Christie election would be fucking epic.

[Uieurnthlaal]

The democrats' option is obvious: Hillary Clinton.
However, the Republicans could pick so many candidates that its impossible to guess. Rubio? Bush? Ryan? Jindal? Its far too early to even start to guess.

Not necessarily, depends if she wants to run, and if in the next few years someone else pops up. Also depends on what happens during the next few years.

If recent events are of any significants, than I have little doubt in my mind that she's running. All the evidence I see points to that conclusion.
Probably the largest argument for this is that if she were planning to settle down, she would be no where near as politically active as she is now. Of course, under attenuating circumstances, she might not run, but the chances of that or insignificant.

[Farnhamia]

Not necessarily, depends if she wants to run, and if in the next few years someone else pops up. Also depends on what happens during the next few years.

She's probably going to run. Although a Brian Schweitzer v. Chris Christie election would be fucking epic.

It would be interesting. Max Baucus has decided not to run for re-election in 2014, so Schweitzer might go for the Senate seat.

[Mauretania Tingitana]

Chris Christie/Rand Paul

[Wikkiwallana]

Please reconcile his constant preaching of poverty as perfection with capitalism. Go on, I'll be waiting.

Point me towards those verses. I'll be waiting.

Matthew 6:19 "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20 But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal.
Matthew 6:24“No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.
Matthew 19:21 Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."
Matthew 19:24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."

Luke 6:20Looking at his disciples, he said: “Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God.
Luke 6:24“But woe to you who are rich, for you have already received your comfort.
Luke 18:22 When Jesus heard this, he said to him, "You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."
Luke 18:25 Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."
Luke 21 1 And He looked up and saw the rich putting their gifts into the treasury. 2 And He saw a poor widow putting in two small copper coins. 3 And He said, “Truly I say to you, this poor widow put in more than all of them; 4 for they all out of their surplus put into the offering; but she out of her poverty put in all that she had to live on.”

Mark 10:25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."

Then of course, there's also the whole bit about "render unto Caesar", the speech John the Baptist gave which Jesus attended just before his baptism, and the myriad of other exultations of poverty, sharing, and the rich being wrong throughout both testaments.

[Okkupied Amerika]

Not necessarily, depends if she wants to run, and if in the next few years someone else pops up. Also depends on what happens during the next few years.

She's probably going to run. Although a Brian Schweitzer v. Chris Christie election would be fucking epic.

Oh God yes. Yes please. Mainly because I want to see Christie get ANNIHILATED and Schweitzer could do it more likely than not.

But Schweitzer's probably going to make a go for the Senate seat in 2014 when Baucus retires.

[Death Metal]

I would actually want either Brent Allison, Gary Johnson, Doug Barnes, Jack Barnes, or anyone from the RCP.

Gary Johnson the candidate who claims to be socially left but will shrink the government, yet as a governor he increased government spending every single year while enacting socially conservative government that filled prisons up with marijuana users?

Sorry, I like my politicians honest.