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Your View of Homosexuality

Your Born that way
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42%
It's a choice
96
11%
It's a sin
97
11%
Who really cares?
249
29%
Karl Marx
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7%
 
Total votes : 873

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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:52 am

Immoren wrote:Why it needs to be "cured"?


So you just didn't read the part where I said it didn't?
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Postby Immoren » Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:53 am

Des-Bal wrote:
Immoren wrote:Why it needs to be "cured"?


So you just didn't read the part where I said it didn't?

Sorry.
Misread.
<.<
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Postby The balkens » Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:54 am

But without gays, who will be fabulous?

Well shit.....
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Postby Bottle » Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:54 am

Thafoo wrote:
Ardkonia wrote:I am completely fine with other people being gay, however when they want YOU to become a gay, force you to be gay, or even get close to you it is terrible and it makes me want to kill them on the spot - You are free to be gay, but don't force me to be the same as you! I've already had many experiences of gay people perhaps making me feel uncomfortable, or disliking my female friends.

What the serious fuck?

There aren't any homosexuals forcing you to be gay... where the fuck did you get that idea? :palm:

I have a theory.

Our culture teaches straight males that their sexuality is the most important thing evar. Think of that rule of advertising, "sex sells," and how it's almost always actually about showing female bodies to male viewers because the sex that matters is the kind that dudes have with vaginas. Masculinity is defined primarily in terms of who, how, and when you fuck, and in terms of asserting your dominance so you can secure even more and better opportunities to fuck. Female sexuality is basically portrayed as being all about the various ways women can make themselves pleasing to straight men. Heck, most people define "sex" as beginning and ending with a boner, to the point where people still insist that even the most promiscuous lesbian is still a virgin if she hasn't had a penis in her vagina.

Among other things, this results in some straight guys coming away with the (mistaken) impression that the entire world is interested in what they do with their junk. They are convinced that everyone, including all gay people, is profoundly concerned with who and how they are fucking. Thus, all gay men MUST want to hop on the boners of all straight dudes. Because straight male penis is the most important thing evar.
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Postby Thafoo » Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:54 am

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Thafoo wrote:What the serious fuck?

There aren't any homosexuals forcing you to be gay... where the fuck did you get that idea? :palm:

IDK, sometimes liberals have a scary habit of glorifying homosexuality.

Well, sometimes it's rather fun being homosexual so >_>

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Postby United Republics of Aralon » Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:54 am

Mkuki wrote:In my opinion homosexuality is uncommon, but natural; like being left-handed. In my opinion religious conservatives and social conservaties need to get over themselves and just accept it as a natural form of human sexuality.

More specifically it is found all around in nature.Most male giraffes are bisexual. And swans are also literally gay.
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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:55 am

Immoren wrote:Sorry.
Misread.
<.<


"Can be cured" and "Should be cured" are two separate ideas.
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:56 am

Thafoo wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:IDK, sometimes liberals have a scary habit of glorifying homosexuality.

Well, sometimes it's rather fun being homosexual so >_>

Let them have their fun, not my cup of tea.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:56 am

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Thafoo wrote:What the serious fuck?

There aren't any homosexuals forcing you to be gay... where the fuck did you get that idea? :palm:

IDK, sometimes liberals have a scary habit of glorifying homosexuality.


I for one cherish my state-imposed routine of getting out my rainbow prayer mat and prostrating myself in the direction the great gay gold statue five times a day.
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Postby Arglorand » Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:59 am

Samuraikoku wrote:I love gay people, but I'm not gay myself.

This.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:59 am

United Republics of Aralon wrote:
Mkuki wrote:In my opinion homosexuality is uncommon, but natural; like being left-handed. In my opinion religious conservatives and social conservaties need to get over themselves and just accept it as a natural form of human sexuality.

More specifically it is found all around in nature.Most male giraffes are bisexual. And swans are also literally gay.

I may regret this, but sources?
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:02 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:IDK, sometimes liberals have a scary habit of glorifying homosexuality.


I for one cherish my state-imposed routine of getting out my rainbow prayer mat and prostrating myself in the direction the great gay gold statue five times a day.

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:02 am

United Republics of Aralon wrote:
Mkuki wrote:In my opinion homosexuality is uncommon, but natural; like being left-handed. In my opinion religious conservatives and social conservaties need to get over themselves and just accept it as a natural form of human sexuality.

More specifically it is found all around in nature.Most male giraffes are bisexual. And swans are also literally gay.

Also bonobos.
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Postby Immoren » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:04 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
United Republics of Aralon wrote:More specifically it is found all around in nature.Most male giraffes are bisexual. And swans are also literally gay.

I may regret this, but sources?

That it is found all around in nature or giraffes being bi and swans gay?
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:05 am

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
I for one cherish my state-imposed routine of getting out my rainbow prayer mat and prostrating myself in the direction the great gay gold statue five times a day.

lolwutm8?


As much as you obviously try very hard, you still don't have a monopoly on saying stupid things.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:07 am

Immoren wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:I may regret this, but sources?

That it is found all around in nature or giraffes being bi and swans gay?

The giraffes and swans thing.
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Postby Khadgar » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:08 am

Immoren wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:I may regret this, but sources?

That it is found all around in nature or giraffes being bi and swans gay?


Homosexuality has been observed in over 500 species.

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Postby Immoren » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:09 am

Khadgar wrote:
Immoren wrote:That it is found all around in nature or giraffes being bi and swans gay?


Homosexuality has been observed in over 500 species.


I know.
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby Zweite Alaje » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:11 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:lolwutm8?


As much as you obviously try very hard, you still don't have a monopoly on saying stupid things.

:eyebrow:

You can't honestly say modern liberals don't glorify homosexuality, they parade it about like it's some sort of divine trait or something. All this "gay pride" and "2Q2BSRT8" is ridiculous and degenerate, we get it you're gay.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:12 am

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
As much as you obviously try very hard, you still don't have a monopoly on saying stupid things.

:eyebrow:

You can't honestly say modern liberals don't glorify homosexuality, they parade it about like it's some sort of divine trait or something. All this "gay pride" and "2Q2BSRT8" is ridiculous and degenerate, we get it you're gay.


...I'm not even going to respond.
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Postby West Macedonia » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:16 am

It's a choice.. btw i hate gays
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Postby Khadgar » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:17 am

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
As much as you obviously try very hard, you still don't have a monopoly on saying stupid things.

:eyebrow:

You can't honestly say modern liberals don't glorify homosexuality, they parade it about like it's some sort of divine trait or something. All this "gay pride" and "2Q2BSRT8" is ridiculous and degenerate, we get it you're gay.


You really need to stop saying things like that.

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Postby Liriena » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:18 am

West Macedonia wrote:It's a choice.. btw i hate gays

Good for you!

Now prove it's a choice, and explain why you hate gays.
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Postby Benuty » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:18 am

West Macedonia wrote:It's a choice.. btw i hate gays


Why?
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Postby Urmanian » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:18 am

West Macedonia wrote:It's a choice..

do you have any proof?
West Macedonia wrote:btw i hate gays

why?
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