Your View of Homosexuality?

[Distruzio]

This is something I find curious, Con.

Is our sexuality linked to our personality? Does it define it? Is there a "gay personality?"

This is especially worrisome as sexuality is growing more and more accepted as something we are born with. Wouldn't "personality" imply a choice?

Peersonality, in this context, is intended to describe the various characteristics of one's psychological make-up. Personality, from a behaviorist standpoint, is in large part not a conscious decision, although one can condition himself to change certain surface aspects, such as social approach.

Alright. I hear you, now.

[Transhuman Proteus]

is that you deciding not to be friends with someone for an irrelevant, completely harmless part of their personality that doesn't change them in the SLIGHTEST is stupid. Because it is. It's literally the equivilant of me not being friends with someone because I don't like the shape of their pinky.

This is something I find curious, Con.

Is our sexuality linked to our personality? Does it define it? Is there a "gay personality?"

I don't believe so. It is a component of it, one of many. It contributes to its formation, to one's psychological make up, not so much the other way round. While most people's sexuality is an important part of who they are, how much of a role it plays in their personality varies. For some it is a major aspect (the people for who you can say "He's Gay" or "he's a ladies man" kind of thing), for others it is just a detail ("He's this and this and this and this, oh, and he's gay as well" kind of thing).

This is especially worrisome as sexuality is growing more and more accepted as something we are born with. Wouldn't "personality" imply a choice?

Well, we don't choose our personality, it tends to form and evolve based on a number of factors - like experiences, education and aspects of ourselves like sexuality.

[Lost Memories]

#6 option
Some are born that way, some chose to be it.
Who's born like it needs understanding, who choose it needs help.
So i'm not voting.

What form of help do you think people who choose it should have?

How do you distinguish those born gay from those who choose to be gay?

If they are born gay there should be a biological mean to figure it out, so it should be possible to have a "bio gay test".
Once you do that, if you find someone who is biologically hetero but behaves like a gay that means s/he choose it.

People choosing to be gay i assume they did it to escape their previous self, or had some traumas, if so there should be little difference with other personality disorders, and the help should be moved in solving those traumas or self loathing at the root of their choice.
The help to them should not be given cause "they are gay", but cause "choosing to be gay" can suggest the presence of traumas or selfloathing, which aren't healty to be left to be, so the help is rather aimed at the traumas and selfloathing.
If there aren't any, that just means there is nothing to give help to.

[Condunum]

Peersonality, in this context, is intended to describe the various characteristics of one's psychological make-up. Personality, from a behaviorist standpoint, is in large part not a conscious decision, although one can condition himself to change certain surface aspects, such as social approach.

Alright. I hear you, now.

Always glad to set things in clear sight

[Transhuman Proteus]

What form of help do you think people who choose it should have?

How do you distinguish those born gay from those who choose to be gay?

If they are born gay there should be a biological mean to figure it out, so it should be possible to have a "bio gay test".
Once you do that, if you find someone who is biologically hetero but behaves like a gay that means s/he choose it.

Except things one doesn't "choose" for themselves doesn't automatically mean it is necessarily a clear cut genetic thing.

People choosing to be gay i assume they did it to escape their previous self, or had some traumas, if so there should be little difference with other personality disorders, and the help should be moved in solving those traumas or self loathing at the root of their choice.
The help to them should not be given cause "they are gay", but cause "choosing to be gay" can suggest the presence of traumas or selfloathing, which aren't healty to be left to be, so the help is rather aimed at the traumas and selfloathing.
If there aren't any, that just means there is nothing to give help to.

Do you have some sort of scientific reason to believe this to be so (I guess I'm asking for proof), and do you think it is a common thing?

[Central Kadigan]

Homosexuality is a fact of nature. Whatever two consenting adults do in the bedroom is none of my business.

[Al-Quarra]

I can't imagine that someone is born with it... it makes no sence at all... I say they choose to be it, maybe not knowing but they chose... the brain is an evil thing....

[Lost Memories]

If they are born gay there should be a biological mean to figure it out, so it should be possible to have a "bio gay test".
Once you do that, if you find someone who is biologically hetero but behaves like a gay that means s/he choose it.

Except things one doesn't "choose" for themselves doesn't automatically mean it is necessarily a clear cut genetic thing.

If there is no way to test/prove it, how can you be so sure they didn't choose it?
If it's not a genetic/biological thing (as in, they are born that way), then where did it come from ?
Or i did misread you, being clear cut or not shouldn't mean it's impossible to prove.

People choosing to be gay i assume they did it to escape their previous self, or had some traumas, if so there should be little difference with other personality disorders, and the help should be moved in solving those traumas or self loathing at the root of their choice.
The help to them should not be given cause "they are gay", but cause "choosing to be gay" can suggest the presence of traumas or selfloathing, which aren't healty to be left to be, so the help is rather aimed at the traumas and selfloathing.
If there aren't any, that just means there is nothing to give help to.

Do you have some sort of scientific reason to believe this to be so (I guess I'm asking for proof), and do you think it is a common thing?

Not a scientific reason, only intuition, this is my opinion afterall.
The intuition is that if one choose to be something different than his/her previous self it's likely to mean they didn't liked their previous self enouth, and i don't see people loathing themselfes as a positive thing, also i don't like much running away from a problem instead of facing it, but this is more of a personal thing.

[The Cultribe]

homosex is sexy, guy on guy is hot
i really wish more dudes got drunk and made out with each other at parties

[Transhuman Proteus]

Except things one doesn't "choose" for themselves doesn't automatically mean it is necessarily a clear cut genetic thing.

If there is no way to test/prove it, how can you be so sure they didn't choose it?

A. Because they say they didn't.
B. Because psychologically speaking consensus is that we don't choose our sexuality.

When did you choose to be straight? And if you can choose to be a heterosexual then logically you could, say, stop being a heterosexual now and spend the next five years only being attracted to guys (if you're a guy). And I mean attracted - emotionally, physically, sexually... No women at all.

If it's not a genetic/biological thing (as in, they are born that way), then where did it come from ?
Or i did misread you, being clear cut or not shouldn't mean it's impossible to prove.

I mean that there is plenty of thought that homosexuality (and by that notion, heterosexuality) aren't necessarily all down to one thing. You probably aren't going to do a blood test and be able to say "Yep, he/he's got the gay gene."

Not a scientific reason, only intuition, this is my opinion afterall.
The intuition is that if one choose to be something different than his/her previous self it's likely to mean they didn't liked their previous self enouth, and i don't see people loathing themselfes as a positive thing, also i don't like much running away from a problem instead of facing it, but this is more of a personal thing.

But science disagrees. How many gay people do you know that were once straight and decided they dislike themselves so much they're going to choose to be something that opens them up to discrimination and judgement?

And I don't mean closeted. I mean heterosexual. Most LGB feel they are LGB from the same time people feel they are heterosexual. Plenty have the same kind of confusions and turbulence, but they know they are attracted to people the same sex as them.

[Zweite Alaje]

I can't imagine that someone is born with it... it makes no sence at all... I say they choose to be it, maybe not knowing but they chose... the brain is an evil thing....

Not evil, complex beyond imagination.

[Urmanian]

my view of homosexuality is that it does not matter if we were born that way or if we somehow, "chose" and it should not matter. it is good, it's fucking awesome to screw dudes and there is nothing wrong whatsoever with it, who cares what is the reason for this fabulousness? but...

I can't imagine that someone is born with it... it makes no sence at all... I say they choose to be it, maybe not knowing but they chose... the brain is an evil thing....

...yeah, one day I woke up and decided "golly, I sure do not feel oppressed enough! I like to live dangerously, so why won't I have an added risk of being mutilated and murdered out in the streets for my sexuality? I am gonna become GAY!" somehow I don't think that's how it works or there would be no gay people in Uganda, Russia or the Bible Belt.

[Algonquin Ascendancy]

I would never hang out with a gay (male) person, but besides that, they have all right to do what they like to do...

Why? And How do you know you haven't already?

[Rocopurr]

I can't imagine that someone is born with it... it makes no sence at all... I say they choose to be it, maybe not knowing but they chose... the brain is an evil thing....

I'd consider the concept of being born gay complicated and nonsensical, but the concept of choosing your sexuality is more nonsensical.

[Benuty]

Honestly is Poe pooping out all these Homosexuality threads next to the Fascist threads XD.

[Algonquin Ascendancy]

I am a Roman Catholic. I am going off of what my church says about being homosexual. It is not wrong to feel that way. God gives everyone temptations, it becomes a sin when a homosexual acts on his feelings. God gives everyone challenges in life. Like my brother can't talk. There are all chalanges that God gives for different reasons.

It's okay if it's a priest and a young boy?

[Blekksprutia]

It's fabulous!

[Etartsacia]

I can't imagine that someone is born with it... it makes no sence at all... I say they choose to be it, maybe not knowing but they chose... the brain is an evil thing....

Check your straight privilege.

[Algonquin Ascendancy]

I can't imagine that someone is born with it... it makes no sence at all... I say they choose to be it, maybe not knowing but they chose... the brain is an evil thing....

So when did you choose to be straight?

[Herrebrugh]

Being gay, I think my view of homosexuality is quite obvious.

[Satonia]

Obviously it's not a choice.

No one on this planet ever decided at the age of 10-20 - "I think I'm going to be straight for the rest of my life", "I think I'm going to be gay for the rest of my life"... it just doesn't work like that.

[Algonquin Ascendancy]

Being gay, I think my view of homosexuality is quite obvious.

Clearly you're opposed to it.

[Liriena]

homosex is sexy, guy on guy is hot
i really wish more dudes got drunk and made out with each other at parties

Preach.

[Liriena]

I can't imagine that someone is born with it... it makes no sence at all... I say they choose to be it, maybe not knowing but they chose... the brain is an evil thing....

You know? The word "asinine" just doesn't cut it. So I'll just go with: that's a stupid post, and you should feel bad.

1) How does it not make sense that someone can be born homosexual?

2) Why would anyone choose to be gay, especially in societies where gays are actively marginalized, if not persecuted?

[Thafoo]

I can't imagine that someone is born with it... it makes no sence at all... I say they choose to be it, maybe not knowing but they chose... the brain is an evil thing....

Yeah, no. Imagine a naked man right now. Do you have a boner?