Your View of Homosexuality?

[Al-Quarra]

No, its just a choice i make with a reason... You're almost saying that "a man is a racist when he doesn't sleep with another man"
Wich is completely foolish... Every person has its likes and dislikes, you should learn to respect that, otherwise your a bigger racist then what you call "racist"

1: I don't have to learn to respect you. It's entirely reasonable to have complete and utter disrespect towards shit attitudes like that one.

2: That's not at all what I'm saying and you know it. Stop trying to skew my words so I'm saying something stupid. What i'm saying , AGAIN, is that you deciding not to be friends with someone for an irrelevant, completely harmless part of their personality that doesn't change them in the SLIGHTEST is stupid. Because it is. It's literally the equivilant of me not being friends with someone because I don't like the shape of their pinky.

I'm going to quit my conversation with you here... clearly you're nothing more then a disrespectfull racist kid.
Let me ask you this last question.. Would you hang out with Pedophiles?

[Defensor]

Hey, he has his own reasons. You're a bigot for liking bacon but not ham. Can the shit storm cease? He finds no commonality with gays and therefore doesn't hang out with them. Does he hate them or call them names? No. Does he preach against them and tell them they will burn in the pits of hell? No. He simply doesn't associate with them for the lack of commonality.

I am the same way. Granted, I've befriended some cool gay dudes and gals, but in general, we don't talk or associate with eachother much. Therefore, we don't group up and all hangout and watch movies like a couple a mates. Got it? Quit being a rager...start being a major...major contributer to commonality that is.

If his reasoning was something other than 'I don't like gays so if a friend was gay I would stop being friends with them because of this,' I might not have a problem with it. That is what his reasoning is though, and it's completely stupid. If you're going to dislike someone, let it be for real reasons. Not fear or bigotry

I hear that. +1

[Condunum]

1: I don't have to learn to respect you. It's entirely reasonable to have complete and utter disrespect towards shit attitudes like that one.

2: That's not at all what I'm saying and you know it. Stop trying to skew my words so I'm saying something stupid. What i'm saying , AGAIN, is that you deciding not to be friends with someone for an irrelevant, completely harmless part of their personality that doesn't change them in the SLIGHTEST is stupid. Because it is. It's literally the equivilant of me not being friends with someone because I don't like the shape of their pinky.

I'm going to quit my conversation with you here... clearly you're nothing more then a disrespectfull racist kid.
Let me ask you this last question.. Would you hang out with Pedophiles?

Sure I would. Pedophilia isn't inherently harmful. Child molestation is. Granted, if it was obsessive behavior I probwbly wouldn't be around them whenever they're getting their rocks off.

And how am I racist, pray tell?

[Al-Quarra]

I'm going to quit my conversation with you here... clearly you're nothing more then a disrespectfull racist kid.
Let me ask you this last question.. Would you hang out with Pedophiles?

Sure I would. Pedophilia isn't inherently harmful. Child molestation is. Granted, if it was obsessive behavior I probwbly wouldn't be around them whenever they're getting their rocks off.

And how am I racist, pray tell?

Yeah sure... Tell that again when you've got children.

Well, you hate people like me... thats racism.

[Condunum]

Sure I would. Pedophilia isn't inherently harmful. Child molestation is. Granted, if it was obsessive behavior I probwbly wouldn't be around them whenever they're getting their rocks off.

And how am I racist, pray tell?

Yeah sure... Tell that again when you've got children.

Well, you hate people like me... thats racism.

I will. When I have children, I will find you and tell you I still don't have a problem with pedophiles. Because I don't automatically hate someone for an intangible sexual preference. Like I said, I have a problem with child molesters. Pedophiles are not automatically those.

When did I say I hate you? And how does this nonexistent hate constitute racism? I don't respect you. I hate some people. You are not one of them. You'd have to personally wrong me for me to hate you.

[Al-Quarra]

Yeah sure... Tell that again when you've got children.

Well, you hate people like me... thats racism.

I will. When I have children, I will find you and tell you I still don't have a problem with pedophiles. Because I don't automatically hate someone for an intangible sexual preference. Like I said, I have a problem with child molesters. Pedophiles are not automatically those.

When did I say I hate you? And how does this nonexistent hate constitute racism? I don't respect you. I hate some people. You are not one of them. You'd have to personally wrong me for me to hate you.

And yet you say that i hate gay males?

[Condunum]

I will. When I have children, I will find you and tell you I still don't have a problem with pedophiles. Because I don't automatically hate someone for an intangible sexual preference. Like I said, I have a problem with child molesters. Pedophiles are not automatically those.

When did I say I hate you? And how does this nonexistent hate constitute racism? I don't respect you. I hate some people. You are not one of them. You'd have to personally wrong me for me to hate you.

And yet you say that i hate gay males?

You give me every reason to believe so. Closet hatred is still hatred.

[Immoren]

it's ok

[Dagnia]

I chose "born that way" because I am pretty sure I was, but still think there should be more options. I think it's possible that some people do choose homosexuality, and that there are some people who are one way through a part of their life but then maybe a change in brain chemistry or even something as simple as a change in personal taste makes them another way.

[Al-Quarra]

And yet you say that i hate gay males?

You give me every reason to believe so. Closet hatred is still hatred.

Then tell me in wich way i "hate" them... The only thing i do is avoiding them, tell me... whats so bad and racist about that?
Its the same as you avoiding child molesters (when you've got children)... or is that racist to? becouse yes, then i am a proud racist, just like almost every single person on this planet.

[Condunum]

it's ok

It isn't just okay, it's...

I'm on mobile. Pretend there is a fabulous rainbow here.

[Vitaphone Racing]

I still don't understand why people make these threads for any other reason than to be the OP of a thread with an awful lot of posts in it.

Plus I don't understand why threads whose OP is basically "psot ur opinion here lolz" continually attract so many posts when the majority of NS seems to make themselves out to be at least half intellectual. What the fuck is there to discuss here?

[Condunum]

You give me every reason to believe so. Closet hatred is still hatred.

Then tell me in wich way i "hate" them... The only thing i do is avoiding them, tell me... whats so bad and racist about that?
Its the same as you avoiding child molesters (when you've got children)... or is that racist to? becouse yes, then i am a proud racist, just like almost every single person on this planet.

I don't avoid them. I disapprove of them, and believe they need reform, for their actions have dire negative consequences on the child.

And avoiding them simply for their sexuality is bigotry.

[Lost Memories]

#6 option
Some are born that way, some chose to be it.
Who's born like it needs understanding, who choose it needs help.
So i'm not voting.

[Condunum]

#6 option
Some are born that way, some chose to be it.
Who's born like it needs understanding, who choose it needs help.
So i'm not voting.

I don't know anyone who chose to be gay. Because we don't. And there is nothing wrong with being something other than heterosexual.

[Tsuntion]

#6 option
Some are born that way, some chose to be it.
Who's born like it needs understanding, who choose it needs help.
So i'm not voting.

What form of help do you think people who choose it should have?

How do you distinguish those born gay from those who choose to be gay?

[Greater Beggnig]

You know what, if a relationship is healthy, and between two adults capable of consent, why should anyone give a flying turd?
I always find it hilarious that the way people talk about homosexuality these days, is the way people talked about African-Americans
back in Martin Luther King Jr's time. Saying things like, "I accept them as part of society, but that is as far as it goes," is homophobic.
It would be like saying about African-Americans "Yeah, I accept black people as part of society, but I don't want anything to do with them,
as friends, and so forth."

Most of the arguments against homosexuality are just 'Ewwww, butt sex is icky, therefore a relationship two consenting adults who are both male is liek being a child molester, and having sex with animals.' These arguments are stupid and childish.

And, last of all. It's not a choice. So it's like racism, because you are discriminating against someone purely because of something superficial, which was not their choice. Oh, and sources: My Gay Biological Father.

[Lost Memories]

I still don't understand why people make these threads for any other reason than to be the OP of a thread with an awful lot of posts in it.

Illusion of popularity?
Look also at the post count of these OPs, they seems to make these threads as a sort of "hello world" in the forum.

Plus I don't understand why threads whose OP is basically "psot ur opinion here lolz" continually attract so many posts when the majority of NS seems to make themselves out to be at least half intellectual.

Because they need to repeat themselfes to don't risk to forget what they believe.
Or because people just like to post their opinions.

Anyway Gayz/Religion/Gayz are the popular topics here, so add that to "psot ur opinion here lolz" and you'll get a lot of replies

What the fuck is there to discuss here?

Others opinions, no?

[Transhuman Proteus]

#6 option
Some are born that way, some chose to be it.

Oh? Who chooses it? Perhaps you're thinking of bisexuals who are potentially attracted to both sexes and therefore can theoretically "choose" to enter into only heterosexual relationships. Problem being you really can't choose who you fall for or find attractive.

Who's born like it needs understanding, who choose it needs help.
So i'm not voting.

Why, even if people chose it, would they need help?

[Distruzio]

is that you deciding not to be friends with someone for an irrelevant, completely harmless part of their personality that doesn't change them in the SLIGHTEST is stupid. Because it is. It's literally the equivilant of me not being friends with someone because I don't like the shape of their pinky.

This is something I find curious, Con.

Is our sexuality linked to our personality? Does it define it? Is there a "gay personality?"

This is especially worrisome as sexuality is growing more and more accepted as something we are born with. Wouldn't "personality" imply a choice?

[Al-Quarra]

#6 option
Some are born that way, some chose to be it.
Who's born like it needs understanding, who choose it needs help.
So i'm not voting.

I don't know anyone who chose to be gay. Because we don't. And there is nothing wrong with being something other than heterosexual.

Now i get it... you're taking it personall.... well don't.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

is that you deciding not to be friends with someone for an irrelevant, completely harmless part of their personality that doesn't change them in the SLIGHTEST is stupid. Because it is. It's literally the equivilant of me not being friends with someone because I don't like the shape of their pinky.

This is something I find curious, Con.

Is our sexuality linked to our personality? Does it define it? Is there a "gay personality?"

This is especially worrisome as sexuality is growing more and more accepted as something we are born with. Wouldn't "personality" imply a choice?

One's sexual identity, and the manner in which one chooses to relate to it, is a major aspect of a person's personality. Some aspects of personality are an inherent part of one's nature, others are developed over the course of time. The manner in which one chooses to express the inherent parts of one's nature may be a matter of choice, but the personality aspects themselves are not.

[Condunum]

is that you deciding not to be friends with someone for an irrelevant, completely harmless part of their personality that doesn't change them in the SLIGHTEST is stupid. Because it is. It's literally the equivilant of me not being friends with someone because I don't like the shape of their pinky.

This is something I find curious, Con.

Is our sexuality linked to our personality? Does it define it? Is there a "gay personality?"

This is especially worrisome as sexuality is growing more and more accepted as something we are born with. Wouldn't "personality" imply a choice?

Peersonality, in this context, is intended to describe the various characteristics of one's psychological make-up. Personality, from a behaviorist standpoint, is in large part not a conscious decision, although one can condition himself to change certain surface aspects, such as social approach.

[Divair]

I'm straight myself, but I have no problem whatsoever with homosexuality, bisexuality, or asexuality.

What he said. Couldn't give less of a fuck.

[Distruzio]

This is something I find curious, Con.

Is our sexuality linked to our personality? Does it define it? Is there a "gay personality?"

This is especially worrisome as sexuality is growing more and more accepted as something we are born with. Wouldn't "personality" imply a choice?

One's sexual identity, and the manner in which one chooses to relate to it, is a major aspect of a person's personality. Some aspects of personality are an inherent part of one's nature, others are developed over the course of time. The manner in which one chooses to express the inherent parts of one's nature may be a matter of choice, but the personality aspects themselves are not.

Gotcha. Thanks.