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Your View of Homosexuality

Your Born that way
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It's a choice
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It's a sin
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Who really cares?
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Postby Al-Quarra » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:07 am

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They don't have to (if they would be gay i would know it either way if they told anyone so...), they know i don't like gay males... I don't have anything against them but simply don't like them.


If that were true, that you don't have anything against homosexual men, you wouldn't break up a friendship with one just on account of their sexual preference. But I suppose you can live with your bigotry, right?


I have no idea whay bigotry means but you're probably right.

And when saying "i don't have anything against them" it doesn't mean that i like or approve it... it only says i accept them as persones that walk the earth...

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:11 am

Al-Quarra wrote:
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If that were true, that you don't have anything against homosexual men, you wouldn't break up a friendship with one just on account of their sexual preference. But I suppose you can live with your bigotry, right?


I have no idea whay bigotry means but you're probably right.

And when saying "i don't have anything against them" it doesn't mean that i like or approve it... it only says i accept them as persones that walk the earth...


Here, educate yourself.

By disapproving of them because of their sexual preference you are doing the opposite of that statement ''I have nothing against them''. You most definitely have something against them: hate. As simple as that.
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Postby Condunum » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:14 am

Al-Quarra wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
If that were true, that you don't have anything against homosexual men, you wouldn't break up a friendship with one just on account of their sexual preference. But I suppose you can live with your bigotry, right?


I have no idea whay bigotry means but you're probably right.

And when saying "i don't have anything against them" it doesn't mean that i like or approve it... it only says i accept them as persones that walk the earth...

Casting someone away for their sexual preference makes as much sense as me saying,

"Hey Nana, you're from Europe. I don't like you anymore because of this. Bye."
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Postby Al-Quarra » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:17 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
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I have no idea whay bigotry means but you're probably right.

And when saying "i don't have anything against them" it doesn't mean that i like or approve it... it only says i accept them as persones that walk the earth...


Here, educate yourself.

By disapproving of them because of their sexual preference you are doing the opposite of that statement ''I have nothing against them''. You most definitely have something against them: hate. As simple as that.


There's a big difference between hating and disliking/not approving...

Try to learn that before making such comment.

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Postby Condunum » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:18 am

Al-Quarra wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Here, educate yourself.

By disapproving of them because of their sexual preference you are doing the opposite of that statement ''I have nothing against them''. You most definitely have something against them: hate. As simple as that.


There's a big difference between hating and disliking/not approving...

Try to learn that before making such comment.

No, you've clearly expressed you hate them. If you didn't, you wouldn't cast someone away based on this one completely irrelevant aspect of their being.
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Postby Greater Beggnig » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:18 am

Karl Marx.

Your argument is invalid.
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Postby St George » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:19 am

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St George wrote:Estimates on the percentage of the population that are gay are generally around 10%. Got 10 male friends? It's statistically probable that one of them is gay.


Still i'm pretty sure their not, and besides that... those estimates are highly overrated,.
Please enlighten me as to your research in this area showing these estimates to be 'highly overrated'. :roll:

But if one of my friends would tell he's gay i would break the contact between me and him. Simple as that.
And this makes you a bigot and a terrible friend to boot.
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Postby Greater Beggnig » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:20 am

Greater Beggnig wrote:Karl Marx.

Your argument is invalid.


Actually, I should have said:

My biological father is Gay.

Your argument is invalid.
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Postby Al-Quarra » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:21 am

Condunum wrote:
Al-Quarra wrote:
There's a big difference between hating and disliking/not approving...

Try to learn that before making such comment.

No, you've clearly expressed you hate them. If you didn't, you wouldn't cast someone away based on this one completely irrelevant aspect of their being.


If i would hate them i would kick the shit out of one when i would see one... i don't... Like i said, i accept them as part of the society but that's it. If you call that hate i advice you to educate yourself on that subject.

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Postby Al-Quarra » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:22 am

St George wrote:
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Still i'm pretty sure their not, and besides that... those estimates are highly overrated,.
Please enlighten me as to your research in this area showing these estimates to be 'highly overrated'. :roll:

But if one of my friends would tell he's gay i would break the contact between me and him. Simple as that.
And this makes you a bigot and a terrible friend to boot.


Those estimates could be true, but that doesn't say that if someone has 10 friends one of them is gay...

And well... if you say so...

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Postby Condunum » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:25 am

Al-Quarra wrote:
Condunum wrote:No, you've clearly expressed you hate them. If you didn't, you wouldn't cast someone away based on this one completely irrelevant aspect of their being.


If i would hate them i would kick the shit out of one when i would see one... i don't... Like i said, i accept them as part of the society but that's it. If you call that hate i advice you to educate yourself on that subject.

Apparently you don't understand anything here. Your theoretical actions would very well be called hate. Guess why? Because people who don't hate homosexuals won't go 'EWWW UR A HOMO WE CANT BE FRIENDS ANYMORE.'

Grow the fuck up.
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Postby Imperiatom » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:26 am

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Do i die when i do it? Does some unknown force i cannot see prevent me?


No, I can worship as the true truth in the universe. If i decide to do it i can. You can say what you like but i am still doing it.

What are you 5? Science isn't a fact or a "thing", it's a method of deduction to come to conclusions. To worship science would be like worshiping the investigations and detective career fields. Da faq? Makes no sense. Then again, neither does your capitalization or your grammar skills, so I don't even know why I'm typing this out to you.



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Postby Al-Quarra » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:27 am

Condunum wrote:
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If i would hate them i would kick the shit out of one when i would see one... i don't... Like i said, i accept them as part of the society but that's it. If you call that hate i advice you to educate yourself on that subject.

Apparently you don't understand anything here. Your theoretical actions would very well be called hate. Guess why? Because people who don't hate homosexuals won't go 'EWWW UR A HOMO WE CANT BE FRIENDS ANYMORE.'

Grow the fuck up.


You clearly don't understand anything about hatred... I don't know if disliking means the same as hating in your country but over here there's a big difference between those two...

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Postby Condunum » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:28 am

Al-Quarra wrote:
Condunum wrote:Apparently you don't understand anything here. Your theoretical actions would very well be called hate. Guess why? Because people who don't hate homosexuals won't go 'EWWW UR A HOMO WE CANT BE FRIENDS ANYMORE.'

Grow the fuck up.


You clearly don't understand anything about hatred... I don't know if disliking means the same as hating in your country but over here there's a big difference between those two...

Hatred is an extremely ambiguous concept in America. But stop focusing on that. You're intentionally dodging the issue of your bigotry.
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Postby Imperiatom » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:28 am

Condunum wrote:
Al-Quarra wrote:
If i would hate them i would kick the shit out of one when i would see one... i don't... Like i said, i accept them as part of the society but that's it. If you call that hate i advice you to educate yourself on that subject.

Apparently you don't understand anything here. Your theoretical actions would very well be called hate. Guess why? Because people who don't hate homosexuals won't go 'EWWW UR A HOMO WE CANT BE FRIENDS ANYMORE.'

Grow the fuck up.


what have we got into here. Insecurity is not the same as hate nor is not being friends. I don't hate black women but i am not really attracted to them sexually though.

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Postby Al-Quarra » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:32 am

Condunum wrote:
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You clearly don't understand anything about hatred... I don't know if disliking means the same as hating in your country but over here there's a big difference between those two...

Hatred is an extremely ambiguous concept in America. But stop focusing on that. You're intentionally dodging the issue of your bigotry.


I'm not, you're the one that's making the issue here...
You're implying that everybody who doesn't want to hang out with a certain group of people is automaticly a racist wich is pure bullshit.

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Postby Condunum » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:33 am

Imperiatom wrote:
Condunum wrote:Apparently you don't understand anything here. Your theoretical actions would very well be called hate. Guess why? Because people who don't hate homosexuals won't go 'EWWW UR A HOMO WE CANT BE FRIENDS ANYMORE.'

Grow the fuck up.


what have we got into here. Insecurity is not the same as hate nor is not being friends. I don't hate black women but i am not really attracted to them sexually though.

Would you be opposed to being friends with a black woman? If no, go away. This is me berating him for a very stupid, childish disapproval of homosexuals to the point that their sexuality is enough for him to cast them away. Which is fucking stupid.
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Postby The NCLI Corporation » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:33 am

In most cases I believe it's a psychological abnormality caused during your early childhood. I don'tthink it's a problem though, since we all have such abnormalities, though they may vary in size.

I don't believe most homosexuals are born that way though, but a small minority probably is.

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Postby Condunum » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:35 am

Al-Quarra wrote:
Condunum wrote:Hatred is an extremely ambiguous concept in America. But stop focusing on that. You're intentionally dodging the issue of your bigotry.


I'm not, you're the one that's making the issue here...
You're implying that everybody who doesn't want to hang out with a certain group of people is automaticly a racist wich is pure bullshit.

No I'm not. I'm saying that you're a bigot for not wanting to be around gays for being gay. Which is fucking stupid. It has no impact on your life. It doesn't affect you. Using it as a reason to cast people away is bigotry.
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Postby Al-Quarra » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:39 am

Condunum wrote:
Al-Quarra wrote:
I'm not, you're the one that's making the issue here...
You're implying that everybody who doesn't want to hang out with a certain group of people is automaticly a racist wich is pure bullshit.

No I'm not. I'm saying that you're a bigot for not wanting to be around gays for being gay. Which is fucking stupid. It has no impact on your life. It doesn't affect you. Using it as a reason to cast people away is bigotry.


No, its just a choice i make with a reason... You're almost saying that "a man is a racist when he doesn't sleep with another man"
Wich is completely foolish... Every person has its likes and dislikes, you should learn to respect that, otherwise your a bigger racist then what you call "racist"

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Postby Imperiatom » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:40 am

Condunum wrote:
Imperiatom wrote:
what have we got into here. Insecurity is not the same as hate nor is not being friends. I don't hate black women but i am not really attracted to them sexually though.

Would you be opposed to being friends with a black woman? If no, go away. This is me berating him for a very stupid, childish disapproval of homosexuals to the point that their sexuality is enough for him to cast them away. Which is fucking stupid.


It depends what they are like, I don't generally find them that great company. Though its probably got more to do with social class and background shaping their personality's than with anything else. To me its more a question of comfort and for whatever reason some people like him can't handle being around gay people mentally.

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Postby Grenartia » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:40 am

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I fail to see how not experiencing a homosexual attraction means you can't consider it normal.

In the range of human experience, yes, it IS normal. Just because YOU haven't experienced it, doesn't mean its not normal.

What color are your eyes?



When you said this:



Its not normalFOR ME. Get it now.


I'M AWARE ITS NOT NORMAL FOR YOU. If you'd actually READ my post, you'd know this.

HOWEVER, just because its not normal for you, doesn't mean you get to say that its an excuse for not considering it normal for anybody else.

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Al-Quarra wrote:
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What if somebody that you knew already told you that they were homosexual? Male or female?


If it would be a female i wouldn't care but if it was a male i would break the contact between me and him...


Why? Just because he's gay doesn't mean he's trying to get in your pants.

Al-Quarra wrote:
Caecuser wrote:
So you only dislike homosexuality in males?


Yes, and yes i know its a problem of my own but i can live with it.


Why are you sexist?

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Except, any God that would make somebody with an innate homosexual attraction, and then arbitrarily, without any sane justification, declare it to be a sin, is a God that should not be worshipped.

This coming from a Christian who believes that homosexuality is NOT a sin.
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Postby Defensor » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:41 am

Condunum wrote:
Al-Quarra wrote:
I'm not, you're the one that's making the issue here...
You're implying that everybody who doesn't want to hang out with a certain group of people is automaticly a racist wich is pure bullshit.

No I'm not. I'm saying that you're a bigot for not wanting to be around gays for being gay. Which is fucking stupid. It has no impact on your life. It doesn't affect you. Using it as a reason to cast people away is bigotry.

Hey, he has his own reasons. You're a bigot for liking bacon but not ham. Can the shit storm cease? He finds no commonality with gays and therefore doesn't hang out with them. Does he hate them or call them names? No. Does he preach against them and tell them they will burn in the pits of hell? No. He simply doesn't associate with them for the lack of commonality.

I am the same way. Granted, I've befriended some cool gay dudes and gals, but in general, we don't talk or associate with eachother much. Therefore, we don't group up and all hangout and watch movies like a couple a mates. Got it? Quit being a rager...start being a major...major contributer to commonality that is.
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Postby Condunum » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:46 am

Al-Quarra wrote:
Condunum wrote:No I'm not. I'm saying that you're a bigot for not wanting to be around gays for being gay. Which is fucking stupid. It has no impact on your life. It doesn't affect you. Using it as a reason to cast people away is bigotry.


No, its just a choice i make with a reason... You're almost saying that "a man is a racist when he doesn't sleep with another man"
Wich is completely foolish... Every person has its likes and dislikes, you should learn to respect that, otherwise your a bigger racist then what you call "racist"

1: I don't have to learn to respect you. It's entirely reasonable to have complete and utter disrespect towards shit attitudes like that one.

2: That's not at all what I'm saying and you know it. Stop trying to skew my words so I'm saying something stupid. What i'm saying , AGAIN, is that you deciding not to be friends with someone for an irrelevant, completely harmless part of their personality that doesn't change them in the SLIGHTEST is stupid. Because it is. It's literally the equivilant of me not being friends with someone because I don't like the shape of their pinky.
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Postby Condunum » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:48 am

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Condunum wrote:No I'm not. I'm saying that you're a bigot for not wanting to be around gays for being gay. Which is fucking stupid. It has no impact on your life. It doesn't affect you. Using it as a reason to cast people away is bigotry.

Hey, he has his own reasons. You're a bigot for liking bacon but not ham. Can the shit storm cease? He finds no commonality with gays and therefore doesn't hang out with them. Does he hate them or call them names? No. Does he preach against them and tell them they will burn in the pits of hell? No. He simply doesn't associate with them for the lack of commonality.

I am the same way. Granted, I've befriended some cool gay dudes and gals, but in general, we don't talk or associate with eachother much. Therefore, we don't group up and all hangout and watch movies like a couple a mates. Got it? Quit being a rager...start being a major...major contributer to commonality that is.

If his reasoning was something other than 'I don't like gays so if a friend was gay I would stop being friends with them because of this,' I might not have a problem with it. That is what his reasoning is though, and it's completely stupid. If you're going to dislike someone, let it be for real reasons. Not fear or bigotry
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