Your View of Homosexuality?

by **Valcouria** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:11 pm

Agymnum wrote:
Valcouria wrote:A mother and a father display the proper attributes to growing children so that they can be well-adjusted in the modern world; a mother, compassion, a father, hardiness. Gays pervert this notion and force one gender to take up both aspects, which is unnatural.

My dad was a pretty weak dude, so I dunno what this whole 'hardiness' shit is that you're talking about.

Also, sexist much? I've met cold-hearted, downright cruel bitches who are moms and soft-hearted dads.

It was a generalization, but you get the jist of it. And in any case, families are supposed to have gender roles.

by **Liriena** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:12 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Agymnum wrote:
God can hate?

He's obviously got some sort of malevolent part of him if he can hate.

I don't worship unproven deities that can hate. Hate is bad.

'Hate' is the wrong word. God gives us the ability not only to love Him, but to disobey Him; he loves us enough to give us free will. When we disobey Him, it is not so much hate as it is a parent being disappointed in their children.

Please, don't try to defend the sadistic and incompetent sociopath and Canaanite war god rip-off known as the Biblical God.

by **Des-Bal** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:12 pm

Valcouria wrote:It was a generalization, but you get the jist of it. And in any case, families are supposed to have gender roles.

So we should also take children from single parents.

by **The U S S R** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:12 pm

Condunum wrote:
The U S S R wrote: In my rather pen statement, I clearly defined the word "something" as being a social issue.

Secondly, what does a house have to do with anything even remotely related to this topic?

Oh, and why would you want that house? It is hideous...

What is with the unnecessary spacing?

I have no clue.

My tablet keeps spacing my posts awkwardly.

by **Valcouria** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:13 pm

Agymnum wrote:
Valcouria wrote:'Hate' is the wrong word. God gives us the ability not only to love Him, but to disobey Him; he loves us enough to give us free will. When we disobey Him, it is not so much hate as it is a parent being disappointed in their children.

Parents disappointed in their children do not damn them to burn in hell as a punishment.

No, but they send them to their room to think about what they did. That is what Hell is really about; to contemplate why you disobeyed the Father.

by **Cosara** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:13 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Valcouria wrote:'Hate' is the wrong word. God gives us the ability not only to love Him, but to disobey Him; he loves us enough to give us free will. When we disobey Him, it is not so much hate as it is a parent being disappointed in their children.

An omnipotent god and freewill cannot coexist. If you set up dominoes and knock one down you didn't give them a choice. God knew exactly what each molecule of the universe would do until the end of time, if he didn't he's clearly not omniscient. By assembling them just so he set up the dominoes to fall a specific way.

How hard is this to grasp?

God created us with free will and will not intrude on free will even if it is being used to commit an act of horrible evil.

by **Condunum** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:14 pm

The U S S R wrote:
Condunum wrote:What is with the unnecessary spacing?

I have no clue.

My tablet keeps spacing my posts awkwardly.

What's your tablet?

by **Agymnum** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:14 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Agymnum wrote:
Parents disappointed in their children do not damn them to burn in hell as a punishment.

No, but they send them to their room to think about what they did. That is what Hell is really about; to contemplate why you disobeyed the Father.

Forever?

Pretty stupid punishment if you ask me. After a while you'd just resent God for being a dick and sending you there.

by **Valcouria** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:14 pm

Agymnum wrote:
Valcouria wrote:By making Paul His Apostle, Jesus was giving Paul the go-ahead to preach Jesus' message. In a sense, Paul was merely the go-between for Jesus and the rest of society.

Everybody loves God. They hate his corrupt, inefficient bureaucracy.

The bureaucracy is necessary, just as it is in any government.

by **Wisconsin9** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:14 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Agymnum wrote:
My dad was a pretty weak dude, so I dunno what this whole 'hardiness' shit is that you're talking about.

Also, sexist much? I've met cold-hearted, downright cruel bitches who are moms and soft-hearted dads.

It was a generalization, but you get the jist of it. And in any case, families are supposed to have gender roles.

Bullshit.

by **Umbra Ac Silentium** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:14 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Agymnum wrote:
Parents disappointed in their children do not damn them to burn in hell as a punishment.

No, but they send them to their room to think about what they did. That is what Hell is really about; to contemplate why you disobeyed the Father.

For all eternity :roll:
I lock my kids in the closet for five years when they disobeyed me once.
I sure gave them a lot of time to think.

by **Soldati Senza Confini** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:14 pm

The U S S R wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
I am Christian and I accept homosexuals and their right to marry.

Please don't be so close-minded.

Alright, you being the key word.

Christians, generally speaking, as a whole, do not...

Actually, there are many like me who want to just give you the right to marry because, in one way or another, we have a friend or a relative who is homosexual and we accept them the way they are. There is many more than you think. But yes, there are still many as well who are adamant on not allowing same-sex marriage to happen.

by **Liriena** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:15 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Agymnum wrote:
Parents disappointed in their children do not damn them to burn in hell as a punishment.

No, but they send them to their room to think about what they did. That is what Hell is really about; to contemplate why you disobeyed the Father.

So, my passive-aggressive, narcissistic, sadistic, incompetent, abusive "Father" will punish me with an eternity of suffering in Hell...for a sin that he himself enabled?

That's one hell of a parent you got there.

by **Des-Bal** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:15 pm

Cosara wrote:How hard is this to grasp?

God created us with free will and will not intrude on free will even if it is being used to commit an act of horrible evil.

I don't know but you're clearly having a hard time with it. Either god created the universe or we have free will both can't be true.

by **The U S S R** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:15 pm

Condunum wrote:
The U S S R wrote:I have no clue.

My tablet keeps spacing my posts awkwardly.

What's your tablet?

It's a Nook HD. It is rather spontaneous when spacing, though.

Funny, it does not space awkwardly except on NS and sometimes Twitter.

by **Valcouria** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:16 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Valcouria wrote:'Hate' is the wrong word. God gives us the ability not only to love Him, but to disobey Him; he loves us enough to give us free will. When we disobey Him, it is not so much hate as it is a parent being disappointed in their children.

If God being disappointed gets us genocide I'd hate to see what actually pissing him off does.

The fate of Sodom & Gomorrah, for one.

by **ZNosha** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:16 pm

Cazia wrote:The lord frowns upon the homosexuals. I don't like them personally and because of my religion(Christian) I feel as it is now a disease, sin, and just plain sickening. Would you like to see a guy or or lesbians do the same thing? No you wouldn't (unless you are one of the monsters, homosexuals, your self).

I wouldn't like to see anyone making out to begin with. That doesn't mean I think sex as a whole is wrong. Make out all you want, just don't do it in public in front of my face when I don't have a choice to look anywhere else.

by **Wisconsin9** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:16 pm

Liriena wrote:
Valcouria wrote:No, but they send them to their room to think about what they did. That is what Hell is really about; to contemplate why you disobeyed the Father.

So, my passive-aggressive, narcissistic, sadistic, incompetent, abusive "Father" will punish me with an eternity of suffering in Hell...for a sin that he himself enabled?

That's one hell of a parent you got there.

Cosmic Social Services must've stripped him of custody. It'd explain why he hasn't been butting in demanding the blood of our children recently.

by **Cosara** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:17 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Cosara wrote:How hard is this to grasp?

God created us with free will and will not intrude on free will even if it is being used to commit an act of horrible evil.

I don't know but you're clearly having a hard time with it. Either god created the universe or we have free will both can't be true.

This is bullshit.

by **Agymnum** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:17 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Agymnum wrote:
Everybody loves God. They hate his corrupt, inefficient bureaucracy.

The bureaucracy is necessary, just as it is in any government.

But God's bureaucracy is pretty shitty if you ask most agnostics/atheists.

For a dude who's supposed to love a lot of people, his bureaucrats sure love to preach hate hate hate.

by **Valcouria** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:17 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Valcouria wrote:It was a generalization, but you get the jist of it. And in any case, families are supposed to have gender roles.

So we should also take children from single parents.

Single parents are unfortunate, but always present; the children miss out on some of the things they could learn from having both a mother and a father, admittedly.

by **Soldati Senza Confini** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:17 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:If God being disappointed gets us genocide I'd hate to see what actually pissing him off does.

The fate of Sodom & Gomorrah, for one.

Sodom and Gomorrah happened not just because they were homosexuals.

-beats you with a bible- go read Genesis again.

by **The U S S R** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:17 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:If God being disappointed gets us genocide I'd hate to see what actually pissing him off does.

The fate of Sodom & Gomorrah, for one.

Actually, SG was moreso because of prostitution and paganism...

by **Des-Bal** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:17 pm

Cosara wrote:This is bullshit.

Does god know the consequences of his actions?

by **Wisconsin9** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:18 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:If God being disappointed gets us genocide I'd hate to see what actually pissing him off does.

The fate of Sodom & Gomorrah, for one.

Two cities is nothing compared to killing almost all life on the planet. Try again.

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