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Your View of Homosexuality

Your Born that way
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It's a choice
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It's a sin
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Who really cares?
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Karl Marx
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Postby Agymnum » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:03 pm

Cosara wrote:
Agymnum wrote:
None are willing or available. A homosexual couple, loving and with good financial standing and no criminal record, is willing to adopt them.

Let the kid suffer the beatings, or let the homosexual couple adopt him/her?

Foster Home.


Clearly a foster home, which may not have the time to give all the children the personal love and attention they need for healthy development, is superior to adoption by a homosexual couple.

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Postby Condunum » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:03 pm

The U S S R wrote:Umm, no.

If you want something (civil rights, social equality, class equality, et cetera), you must take it.

No, you have an obligation to use the means available first. If those fail, then illegal activity is just to confront the law.
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Postby Valcouria » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:04 pm

The U S S R wrote:
CIS Shadowfeed wrote:
But Paul in the New Testament, created after the 2nd covenant with God also disagrees with the sin afore mentioned. As stated in my earlier post in Corinthians, Romans, and 1 Timothy.
Also that is true for most of the laws and you make a good point for things not specifically mentioned in the New Testament.


Isn't Jesus far more important than some random guy? Isn't Jesus God?

Jesus personally made Paul (previously Saul) his Apostle.
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Postby CIS Shadowfeed » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:04 pm

The U S S R wrote:
CIS Shadowfeed wrote:
But Paul in the New Testament, created after the 2nd covenant with God also disagrees with the sin afore mentioned. As stated in my earlier post in Corinthians, Romans, and 1 Timothy.
Also that is true for most of the laws and you make a good point for things not specifically mentioned in the New Testament.


Isn't Jesus far more important than some random guy? Isn't Jesus God?

Jesus is God but he is not the one who creates covenants. Jesus loves everyone no matter what, God is different he can hate and he will also "send a powerful delusion" as stated in 2nd Thessalonians.

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Postby Liriena » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:05 pm

Wesley Custer Douglas wrote:Im against homosexuality I believe it should be a crime and any one caught committing it
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It's confirmed, gentlemen. We got ourselves an individual who doesn't respect human rights. Proceed with snark.
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Postby The U S S R » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:05 pm

Condunum wrote:
The U S S R wrote:Umm, no.

If you want something (civil rights, social equality, class equality, et cetera), you must take it.

No, you have an obligation to use the means available first. If those fail, then illegal activity is just to confront the law.

Well, these goddamned Christians are not budging. Congress will not do shit.

What else is there?
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Postby Agymnum » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:05 pm

CIS Shadowfeed wrote:
The U S S R wrote:
Isn't Jesus far more important than some random guy? Isn't Jesus God?

Jesus is God but he is not the one who creates covenants. Jesus loves everyone no matter what, God is different he can hate and he will also "send a powerful delusion" as stated in 2nd Thessalonians.


God can hate?

He's obviously got some sort of malevolent part of him if he can hate.

I don't worship unproven deities that can hate. Hate is bad.
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Postby Condunum » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:06 pm

The U S S R wrote:
Condunum wrote:No, you have an obligation to use the means available first. If those fail, then illegal activity is just to confront the law.

Well, these goddamned Christians are not budging. Congress will not do shit.

What else is there?

What, on Homosexuality? You're wrong.
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Postby Valcouria » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:06 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Why exactly do you believe that?

I'm still waiting for an answer.

A mother and a father display the proper attributes to growing children so that they can be well-adjusted in the modern world; a mother, compassion, a father, hardiness. Gays pervert this notion and force one gender to take up both aspects, which is unnatural.
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Postby Cosara » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:06 pm

The U S S R wrote:Umm, no.

If you want something (civil rights, social equality, class equality, et cetera), you must take it.

You're basically saying that I must steal the Texas Governor's Mansion because I'd like to have that house.
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Postby The U S S R » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:06 pm

Valcouria wrote:
The U S S R wrote:
Isn't Jesus far more important than some random guy? Isn't Jesus God?

Jesus personally made Paul (previously Saul) his Apostle.



...and you did not answer my question.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:07 pm

The U S S R wrote:
Condunum wrote:No, you have an obligation to use the means available first. If those fail, then illegal activity is just to confront the law.

Well, these goddamned Christians are not budging. Congress will not do shit.

What else is there?


I am Christian and I accept homosexuals and their right to marry.

Please don't be so close-minded.
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Postby Agymnum » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:07 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:I'm still waiting for an answer.

A mother and a father display the proper attributes to growing children so that they can be well-adjusted in the modern world; a mother, compassion, a father, hardiness. Gays pervert this notion and force one gender to take up both aspects, which is unnatural.


My dad was a pretty weak dude, so I dunno what this whole 'hardiness' shit is that you're talking about.

Also, sexist much? I've met cold-hearted, downright cruel bitches who are moms and soft-hearted dads.
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Postby CIS Shadowfeed » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:08 pm

Agymnum wrote:
CIS Shadowfeed wrote:Jesus is God but he is not the one who creates covenants. Jesus loves everyone no matter what, God is different he can hate and he will also "send a powerful delusion" as stated in 2nd Thessalonians.


God can hate?

He's obviously got some sort of malevolent part of him if he can hate.

I don't worship unproven deities that can hate. Hate is bad.


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Postby Liriena » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:08 pm

Selzburg wrote:LGBT is bad, but that does not mean that LGBT people are bad. I have some friends who are gay (an inevitability at a performing arts school).

Textbook definition of cognitive dissonance.
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Postby Valcouria » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:08 pm

Agymnum wrote:
CIS Shadowfeed wrote:Jesus is God but he is not the one who creates covenants. Jesus loves everyone no matter what, God is different he can hate and he will also "send a powerful delusion" as stated in 2nd Thessalonians.


God can hate?

He's obviously got some sort of malevolent part of him if he can hate.

I don't worship unproven deities that can hate. Hate is bad.

'Hate' is the wrong word. God gives us the ability not only to love Him, but to disobey Him; he loves us enough to give us free will. When we disobey Him, it is not so much hate as it is a parent being disappointed in their children.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:08 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:I'm still waiting for an answer.

A mother and a father display the proper attributes to growing children so that they can be well-adjusted in the modern world; a mother, compassion, a father, hardiness. Gays pervert this notion and force one gender to take up both aspects, which is unnatural.

You said that children should be with their biological parents, not making an argument for straight ones, and I want to know why. Now please give me an answer to the question I asked.
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Postby Agymnum » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:08 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Agymnum wrote:
God can hate?

He's obviously got some sort of malevolent part of him if he can hate.

I don't worship unproven deities that can hate. Hate is bad.

'Hate' is the wrong word. God gives us the ability not only to love Him, but to disobey Him; he loves us enough to give us free will. When we disobey Him, it is not so much hate as it is a parent being disappointed in their children.


Parents disappointed in their children do not damn them to burn in hell as a punishment.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:09 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Agymnum wrote:
God can hate?

He's obviously got some sort of malevolent part of him if he can hate.

I don't worship unproven deities that can hate. Hate is bad.

'Hate' is the wrong word. God gives us the ability not only to love Him, but to disobey Him; he loves us enough to give us free will. When we disobey Him, it is not so much hate as it is a parent being disappointed in their children.

If God being disappointed gets us genocide I'd hate to see what actually pissing him off does.
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Postby The U S S R » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:09 pm

Cosara wrote:
The U S S R wrote:Umm, no.

If you want something (civil rights, social equality, class equality, et cetera), you must take it.

You're basically saying that I must steal the Texas Governor's Mansion because I'd like to have that house.

In my rather pen statement, I clearly defined the word "something" as being a social issue.



Secondly, what does a house have to do with anything even remotely related to this topic?



Oh, and why would you want that house? It is hideous...
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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:10 pm

Valcouria wrote:'Hate' is the wrong word. God gives us the ability not only to love Him, but to disobey Him; he loves us enough to give us free will. When we disobey Him, it is not so much hate as it is a parent being disappointed in their children.


An omnipotent god and freewill cannot coexist. If you set up dominoes and knock one down you didn't give them a choice. God knew exactly what each molecule of the universe would do until the end of time, if he didn't he's clearly not omniscient. By assembling them just so he set up the dominoes to fall a specific way.
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Postby Valcouria » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:10 pm

The U S S R wrote:
Valcouria wrote:Jesus personally made Paul (previously Saul) his Apostle.



...and you did not answer my question.

By making Paul His Apostle, Jesus was giving Paul the go-ahead to preach Jesus' message. In a sense, Paul was merely the go-between for Jesus and the rest of society.
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Postby The U S S R » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:11 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
The U S S R wrote:Well, these goddamned Christians are not budging. Congress will not do shit.

What else is there?


I am Christian and I accept homosexuals and their right to marry.

Please don't be so close-minded.

Alright, you being the key word.

Christians, generally speaking, as a whole, do not...
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Postby Agymnum » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:11 pm

Valcouria wrote:
The U S S R wrote:

...and you did not answer my question.

By making Paul His Apostle, Jesus was giving Paul the go-ahead to preach Jesus' message. In a sense, Paul was merely the go-between for Jesus and the rest of society.


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Postby Condunum » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:11 pm

The U S S R wrote:
Cosara wrote:You're basically saying that I must steal the Texas Governor's Mansion because I'd like to have that house.

In my rather pen statement, I clearly defined the word "something" as being a social issue.

Secondly, what does a house have to do with anything even remotely related to this topic?

Oh, and why would you want that house? It is hideous...

What is with the unnecessary spacing?
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