Your View of Homosexuality?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

A child needs a father figure and a mother figure. No am mount of love can turn a father into a mother or vice versa.

This is one of those "Nature v. Nurture" debates.

Nurture is more important than nature. Period. End of discussion.

[CIS Shadowfeed]

Hi. Catholic who went to a religious school for 8 years here.

The new covenant formed between God and Man upon Jesus' death upon the cross made those laws and restrictions present in the Old Testament invalid as every person was reborn in Christ.

If you don't accept this, you need to start sacrificing lambs, because those are laws in the Old Testament as well. I'd suggest talking to a spiritual advisor.

TOPIC related note here: Any 'laws' supposedly laid down against homosexuality (the existence of which is debated) are also made invalid by this.

That was so beautifully stated that I posted it on Facebook.

But Paul in the New Testament, created after the 2nd covenant with God also disagrees with the sin afore mentioned. As stated in my earlier post in Corinthians, Romans, and 1 Timothy.
Also that is true for most of the laws and you make a good point for things not specifically mentioned in the New Testament.

[Cosara]

That's well and good. I support the legalization of marijuana for tax purposes. I do not, however, smoke marijuana because I do not have the time nor the money to support such a habit.

If marijuana were legal, I would not suddenly start smoking it because I still wouldn't have the time nor the money.

The law itself is irrelevant to whether I do something or not. If the only reason you don't murder people, rob from people, or rape people is because of the law, you're stupid.

The only reason I renew my license is because of the law.

The only reason I went through a background check to get my AK47 was because of the law.

[Condunum]

The Federal ban on Marijuana is a stupid law. Does that mean that I'm as stupid as Congress for following it?

If you want to smoke weed and that's the only reason you're not, yeah you're pretty stupid for complying with it.

Not saying you're not going to get arrested, but if the ONLY reason you're not doing something is because of a stupid law, you're pretty stupid.

A quote I remember reading recently:

"It is the duty of every moral citizen to challenge bad laws, by petition, election and protest. should all those venues fail, it becomes necessary to break bad laws - openly, in spite of the ire of law-enforcement officers and judges - so that the wrongness of the law can be addressed, and eventually rectified, in the public arena."

[Valcouria]

Agriculture is different that human lives. For one, humans are blessed with self-awareness and cognitive abilities.

Just as well, I fervently believe that children need to grow up with their biological mother and father.

I believe if the biological father and mother are stupid fucks who abuse or neglect their children, their children ought to be raised by loving surrogates.

Parenting is more than just being flesh-and-blood related.

If people are too immature and idiotic to have children, then they should not be having them in the first place (yes, I support abstinence in this regard...possibly chastity belts as well).

[Agymnum]

I believe if the biological father and mother are stupid fucks who abuse or neglect their children, their children ought to be raised by loving surrogates.

Parenting is more than just being flesh-and-blood related.

If people are too immature and idiotic to have children, then they should not be having them in the first place (yes, I support abstinence in this regard...possibly chastity belts as well).

What if they have children and abuse them? What then?

[The U S S R]

The reason it's lacking is because blind belief is stupid.

It needs to go away. Far away. Far, far away.

Sometimes, people need to be able to believe in something without reason and logic behind it. It is an inherent part of humanity. Over the course of the last half-century, atheists and irreligious people have been convincing people that reason can solve everything, and that belief in religion is something that is archaic and outdated. I say nay. Although I know you will tell me I am foolish, there have been rough days where I have needed something outside this mortal plane, and look to God for guidance and comfort. Can I prove He exists? No. But then, you cannot prove He doesn't exist. And, believe it or not, I always feel much better after spending some time in belief and prayer.

Blind belief isn't stupid...it is something that not only has the power to help people, it is something that is inherent in humanity, and no amount of emphasis on logic and reason will make it go away.

The psychological effects of praying are indeed rewarding.

If you create the illusion that you are being protected, naturally, you will feel as if you are being protected.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

If you want to smoke weed and that's the only reason you're not, yeah you're pretty stupid for complying with it.

Not saying you're not going to get arrested, but if the ONLY reason you're not doing something is because of a stupid law, you're pretty stupid.

A quote I remember reading recently:

"It is the duty of every moral citizen to challenge bad laws, by petition, election and protest. should all those venues fail, it becomes necessary to break bad laws - openly, in spite of the ire of law-enforcement officers and judges - so that the wrongness of the law can be addressed, and eventually rectified, in the public arena."

^ This.

Always leave violence as a LAST resort.

[CIS Shadowfeed]

Also sorry about the artificial insemination thing. I thought you were talking about animal artificial insemination. I don't have an opinion on the matter in people.

[Des-Bal]

I trust the translations...the men that did their job did as best as they could, and for the most part did a wonderful job. I would really like to learn Greek and Hebrew so I could read the originals, but at the moment I am too busy to do so.

So your beliefs require not only faith in the Sky King but faith in the men who wrote down his words, faith in the nameless douchebags who translated them, and the large companies that print them?

This is the verbatim word of God Most High telling you the only path to save yourself from eternal hellfire and you're too busy to read it?

[Valcouria]

Blind belief isn't stupid...it is something that not only has the power to help people, it is something that is inherent in humanity, and no amount of emphasis on logic and reason will make it go away.

We can't make it go away, but we can sure as hell try.

And if the only reason you have belief is to get you through tough days, you're weak. I don't need belief in an imaginary friend as a crutch to get me through tough days. At least come up with a better argument than that for belief in a deity.

Try all you like, but you cannot eradicate a primal aspect of humanity unless you kill it off entirely.

And, in all actuality, I believe that you are the weak one; you trust nothing but what you see in front of you. Such narrow-mindedness.

[Cosara]

If people are too immature and idiotic to have children, then they should not be having them in the first place (yes, I support abstinence in this regard...possibly chastity belts as well).

What if they have children and abuse them? What then?

Let heterosexual parents adopt the child.

[Condunum]

A quote I remember reading recently:

"It is the duty of every moral citizen to challenge bad laws, by petition, election and protest. should all those venues fail, it becomes necessary to break bad laws - openly, in spite of the ire of law-enforcement officers and judges - so that the wrongness of the law can be addressed, and eventually rectified, in the public arena."

^ This.

Always leave violence as a LAST resort.

Not necessarily even violence - illegal activity is the last resort to changing unjust laws. Should all other options fail, one has an ethical obligation to challenge the law in public, so as to bring it to the view of a wider audience, and eyes of the judicial system.

[Agymnum]

What if they have children and abuse them? What then?

Let heterosexual parents adopt the child.

None are willing or available. A homosexual couple, loving and with good financial standing and no criminal record, is willing to adopt them.

Let the kid suffer the beatings, or let the homosexual couple adopt him/her?

[The U S S R]

That was so beautifully stated that I posted it on Facebook.

But Paul in the New Testament, created after the 2nd covenant with God also disagrees with the sin afore mentioned. As stated in my earlier post in Corinthians, Romans, and 1 Timothy.
Also that is true for most of the laws and you make a good point for things not specifically mentioned in the New Testament.

Isn't Jesus far more important than some random guy? Isn't Jesus God?

[Valcouria]

Also sorry about the artificial insemination thing. I thought you were talking about animal artificial insemination. I don't have an opinion on the matter in people.

It's alright. I suspected you weren't referring to humans in this regard. Just thought I'd clarify.

[Cosara]

^ This.

Always leave violence as a LAST resort.

Not necessarily even violence - illegal activity is the last resort to changing unjust laws. Should all other options fail, one has an ethical obligation to challenge the law in public, so as to bring it to the view of a wider audience, and eyes of the judicial system.

So, illegal activity is the last resort, and violence is basically the nuclear bomb, don't use it until you absolutely positively must use it.

[Valcouria]

I trust the translations...the men that did their job did as best as they could, and for the most part did a wonderful job. I would really like to learn Greek and Hebrew so I could read the originals, but at the moment I am too busy to do so.

So your beliefs require not only faith in the Sky King but faith in the men who wrote down his words, faith in the nameless douchebags who translated them, and the large companies that print them?

This is the verbatim word of God Most High telling you the only path to save yourself from eternal hellfire and you're too busy to read it?

Can I help it if my first language was English and I have enough to worry about in law school to take up learning Greek and Hebrew? I intend to get to it, but cannot now.

[Cosara]

Let heterosexual parents adopt the child.

None are willing or available. A homosexual couple, loving and with good financial standing and no criminal record, is willing to adopt them.

Let the kid suffer the beatings, or let the homosexual couple adopt him/her?

Foster Home.

[Des-Bal]

Can I help it if my first language was English and I have enough to worry about in law school to take up learning Greek and Hebrew? I intend to get to it, but cannot now.

No you can't, you just shouldn't pretend you actually care about any of it.

[Condunum]

Not necessarily even violence - illegal activity is the last resort to changing unjust laws. Should all other options fail, one has an ethical obligation to challenge the law in public, so as to bring it to the view of a wider audience, and eyes of the judicial system.

So, illegal activity is the last resort, and violence is basically the nuclear bomb, don't use it until you absolutely positively must use it.

Yeah, basically. Violence, when just, is necessary.

When is it just? Well, that's up to you. History will be the judge, however.

[The U S S R]

Umm, no.

If you want something (civil rights, social equality, class equality, et cetera), you must take it.

[Agymnum]

Try all you like, but you cannot eradicate a primal aspect of humanity unless you kill it off entirely.

And, in all actuality, I believe that you are the weak one; you trust nothing but what you see in front of you. Such narrow-mindedness.

By the contrary, I will believe anything so long as sufficient proof is levied before me. I do not need to see Jupiter to know it exists, because we have sufficient, corroborated, and repeatable evidence of its existence. I do not need to see Australopithecus Africanus to know it exists, because there is sufficient empirical evidence scientifically to support their existence.

Prove to me that there is a God, and I will believe in him. Until then, don't expect me to wake up on Sundays and spend my mornings at church listening to why I'm going to hell. I have better things to do.

[Condunum]

None are willing or available. A homosexual couple, loving and with good financial standing and no criminal record, is willing to adopt them.

Let the kid suffer the beatings, or let the homosexual couple adopt him/her?

Foster Home.

why do you hate children?

[Wisconsin9]

Agriculture is different that human lives. For one, humans are blessed with self-awareness and cognitive abilities.

Just as well, I fervently believe that children need to grow up with their biological mother and father.

Why exactly do you believe that?

I'm still waiting for an answer.