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Your View of Homosexuality

Your Born that way
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It's a choice
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It's a sin
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Who really cares?
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Karl Marx
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:17 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
The same reason nobodies upset at heterosexuals flaunting their heterosexuality, it's a stupid belief predicated on bigotry and veiled by a thin veneer of bullshit.

Personally, I think any PDA is repulsive.


Then I shall kiss a girl in front of you :lol2:

You're quite the prude.
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Postby Cosara » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:18 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Cosara wrote:If you were raised by gay parents and were forced to watch gay porn 24/7, it is more than certain that you'd turn out gay regardless of genetics. I guarantee you.


Umm... okay?!

No, this is not accurate. A woman who was raised in a same-sex household may still feel attachment towards a man because she may want children, and that would make her perfectly heterosexual despite her childhood. This is completely false and untrue.

You left out the part about being forced to watch gay porn.
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Postby Agymnum » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:18 pm

Cosara wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Umm... okay?!

No, this is not accurate. A woman who was raised in a same-sex household may still feel attachment towards a man because she may want children, and that would make her perfectly heterosexual despite her childhood. This is completely false and untrue.

You left out the part about being forced to watch gay porn.


I'm going to make you watch gay porn, son!

Said no parent, ever.
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Postby Rocopurr » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:18 pm

Cosara wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Umm... okay?!

No, this is not accurate. A woman who was raised in a same-sex household may still feel attachment towards a man because she may want children, and that would make her perfectly heterosexual despite her childhood. This is completely false and untrue.

You left out the part about being forced to watch gay porn.

Most parents don't force their kids to watch porn, gay or not.
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Postby Valcouria » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:19 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Valcouria wrote:Personally, I think any PDA is repulsive.


Then I shall kiss a girl in front of you :lol2:

You're quite the prude.

I feel that a person's affection is not something that everyone needs to see.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:20 pm

Agymnum wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Umm... okay?!

No, this is not accurate. A woman who was raised in a same-sex household may still feel attachment towards a man because she may want children, and that would make her perfectly heterosexual despite her childhood. This is completely false and untrue.


More importantly, she might just like cock more than she likes pussy.

Just because you're raised all your life by people who solely prefer cock or pussy (or both), doesn't mean you have to align to their views.

For example, I was raised by straight parents but I am an asexual.


Well, I wanted to keep some decorum, but you're right :p
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:20 pm

Ainin wrote:
Untaroicht wrote:It is a mortal sin which should be dealt with through repentance, psychiatry, and chastity.

Prove it.

You can't prove morality, its a matter of opinion.

Even if there wrong.
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Postby Agymnum » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:20 pm

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Ainin wrote:Prove it.

You can't prove morality, its a matter of opinion.

Even if there wrong.


So basically the morality argument is bullshit.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:20 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Then I shall kiss a girl in front of you :lol2:

You're quite the prude.

I feel that a person's affection is not something that everyone needs to see.

And I feel that a person's religious beliefs are not something others should have to deal with.
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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:21 pm

Valcouria wrote:I feel that a person's affection is not something that everyone needs to see.


Do you feel that it's something that everyone needs to stare at? Because you don't have to, I mean if you thought you were legally required to watch gay men kiss until they were finished then yeah I can see where some of these objections are from.
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Postby Cosara » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:21 pm

Agymnum wrote:
Cosara wrote:You left out the part about being forced to watch gay porn.


I'm going to make you watch gay porn, son!

Said no parent, ever.

However I am beyond certain that if that were the case, someone would become gay. Anyways, this thread is on two wheels and ready to derail. Everyone shift your weight back onto the topic!
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Postby Agymnum » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:21 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Then I shall kiss a girl in front of you :lol2:

You're quite the prude.

I feel that a person's affection is not something that everyone needs to see.


Wish I could say the same about people's religious beliefs, or their guns.
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Postby Valcouria » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:21 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Valcouria wrote:I feel that a person's affection is not something that everyone needs to see.

And I feel that a person's religious beliefs are not something others should have to deal with.

Unlike trivial displays of affection, religious beliefs are driving forces behind a lot of politics in this day and age. Personally, I think this is a good thing, since it gives our leaders a moral compass on deciding issues.
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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:22 pm

Cosara wrote:
Agymnum wrote:
I'm going to make you watch gay porn, son!

Said no parent, ever.

However I am beyond certain that if that were the case, someone would become gay. Anyways, this thread is on two wheels and ready to derail. Everyone shift your weight back onto the topic!

You mean the topic of homosexuality which we're still talking about?
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:22 pm

Cosara wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Umm... okay?!

No, this is not accurate. A woman who was raised in a same-sex household may still feel attachment towards a man because she may want children, and that would make her perfectly heterosexual despite her childhood. This is completely false and untrue.

You left out the part about being forced to watch gay porn.


I will ask only once:

Have you EVER forced your child to watch heterosexual porn?! Seriously, most parents would not force their children to watch that, even homosexual parents.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:22 pm

Cosara wrote:
Agymnum wrote:
I'm going to make you watch gay porn, son!

Said no parent, ever.

However I am beyond certain that if that were the case, someone would become gay. Anyways, this thread is on two wheels and ready to derail. Everyone shift your weight back onto the topic!

I believe we are on topic. And just because you're certain of something doesn't mean you're right. And since you have literally no evidence of any kind to back that up, I and everyone else would be justified ignoring that claim.
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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:22 pm

Agymnum wrote:
Cosara wrote:You left out the part about being forced to watch gay porn.


I'm going to make you watch gay porn, son!

Said no parent, ever.

No, you don't get it man, that's what gay people do.

Because they're gay and stuff. They have no sense of decency in their sexual lives, so they don't display any in other portions of their lives. That's why you always see them running around in assless chaps and such. Because no gay person could ever look or act like a normal, functioning member of society. I mean, if they did that we wouldn't know who they were. AND WHERE WOULD WE BE THEN?
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Postby Rocopurr » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:22 pm

Cosara wrote:
Agymnum wrote:
I'm going to make you watch gay porn, son!

Said no parent, ever.

However I am beyond certain that if that were the case, someone would become gay. Anyways, this thread is on two wheels and ready to derail. Everyone shift your weight back onto the topic!

And I've seen a ton of straight/homosexual male forms of erotica yet i feel little attraction to men.
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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:23 pm

Cosara wrote:However I am beyond certain that if that were the case, someone would become gay. Anyways, this thread is on two wheels and ready to derail. Everyone shift your weight back onto the topic!

Your view of homosexuality
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Homosexuality is cause by childhood experiences
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prove it


We're actually on topic pretty hard.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:23 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:And I feel that a person's religious beliefs are not something others should have to deal with.

Unlike trivial displays of affection, religious beliefs are driving forces behind a lot of politics in this day and age. Personally, I think this is a good thing, since it gives our leaders a moral compass on deciding issues.

My point was that just because a person believes something's yucky doesn't mean it's wrong. Seriously, that's like, third-grader logic.
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Postby Cosara » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:23 pm

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Ainin wrote:Prove it.

You can't prove morality, its a matter of opinion.

Even if there wrong.

Then How could you say that it was wrong for Hitler to kill the Jews, because it was his opinion. Since when do you have the authority to judge the opinion of Hitler?



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Postby Agymnum » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:24 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:And I feel that a person's religious beliefs are not something others should have to deal with.

Unlike trivial displays of affection, religious beliefs are driving forces behind a lot of politics in this day and age. Personally, I think this is a good thing, since it gives our leaders a moral compass on deciding issues.


I think it's bullshit, but hey a million flies enjoying shit can't be wrong, right?

I wish religion would get the fuck out of government so we could move on already. It's limiting science, education, and now apparently civil rights.
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Postby The U S S R » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:24 pm

I am gay.



I did not choose to be gay. After all, why would I choose to live a life of secrecy, frequent hatred from religious institutions, and the threat of physical violence posed to me as a result of my sexuality? It all lies in genetic coding, people.



But I suppose that if you have Jesus, or any other false deity, you have no use for something as trivial as logic, common sense, and science, now do you?
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:24 pm

Agymnum wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:You can't prove morality, its a matter of opinion.

Even if there wrong.


So basically the morality argument is bullshit.

well, sort of yeah.
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Postby Selzburg » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:25 pm

LGBT is bad, but that does not mean that LGBT people are bad. I have some friends who are gay (an inevitability at a performing arts school).
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