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Postby The Broken Imperial Sector » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:40 pm

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The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:But she chose to work at a religious school who's religion is against homosexuality.

And did so for nineteen years without being fired. Don't you think that is a little bit wrong?

Nope.
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Postby Untaroicht » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:40 pm

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Untaroicht wrote:A shame she was fired, but, what did you expect by coming out of the closet while working at a catholic school?

Religious institutions have a constitutional right to deny accepting people who's lifestyle choices go against their code of ethics, and the catholic church (and all christian churches, for that matter, with a few fringe exceptions), have disagreed with homosexual thoughts for the past two thousand years.

If you want to be open about your sexual preferences, please work somewhere where it doesn't go directly against the rules.

This is like applying for a job at PETA, and at the job interview you come in eating a bucket of KFC.

She didn't "come out of the closet." She was already a open homosexual. It was merely that her orientation was publicized that got her fired. It was completely idiotic to fire her after nineteen years of fine service.


It doesn't matter how long she worked there, if she can't follow the basic rules of the institution she works at then she shouldn't be there in the first place.

Again, This is like applying for a job at PETA, and at the job interview you come in eating a bucket of KFC.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:40 pm

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Ceannairceach wrote:And did so for nineteen years without being fired. Don't you think that is a little bit wrong?

Nope.

Alrighty then. Next time someone says that they can't find a job, I don't want to hear shit about how they are lazy leeches from anyone, then..

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Postby Imsogone » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:41 pm

The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:Why the hell did a lesbian work at a catholic school in the first place?


The same reason my sister, a Wiccan, taught at one - she needed the job and she was good at it.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:42 pm

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Ceannairceach wrote:She didn't "come out of the closet." She was already a open homosexual. It was merely that her orientation was publicized that got her fired. It was completely idiotic to fire her after nineteen years of fine service.


It doesn't matter how long she worked there, if she can't follow the basic rules of the institution she works at then she shouldn't be there in the first place.

Again, This is like applying for a job at PETA, and at the job interview you come in eating a bucket of KFC.

No, it isn't like that. Its like applying to work with PETA with a hamburger packed in your lunch pale, getting hired, eating it, then getting fired nineteen years later for this infraction. It is completely idiotic and wrong.

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:43 pm

Untaroicht wrote:A shame she was fired, but, what did you expect by coming out of the closet while working at a catholic school?

Religious institutions have a constitutional right to deny accepting people who's lifestyle choices go against their code of ethics, and the catholic church (and all christian churches, for that matter, with a few fringe exceptions), have disagreed with homosexual thoughts for the past two thousand years.

If you want to be open about your sexual preferences, please work somewhere where it doesn't go directly against the rules.

This is like applying for a job at PETA, and at the job interview you come in eating a bucket of KFC.

Fringes like the Episcopalians and the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America?

And this teacher was very careful about not being open, but her mother's obituary mentioned her partner.
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Postby Untaroicht » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:43 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Untaroicht wrote:
It doesn't matter how long she worked there, if she can't follow the basic rules of the institution she works at then she shouldn't be there in the first place.

Again, This is like applying for a job at PETA, and at the job interview you come in eating a bucket of KFC.

No, it isn't like that. Its like applying to work with PETA with a hamburger packed in your lunch pale, getting hired, eating it, then getting fired nineteen years later for this infraction. It is completely idiotic and wrong.


Are you even reading what I type? IF SHE CAN'T FOLLOW THE RULES, SHE'S GOT TO GO. It's like that for, oh, I don't know, every other job on the face of the planet. Do what your employers want you to do, or leave. it's that simple.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:44 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Untaroicht wrote:A shame she was fired, but, what did you expect by coming out of the closet while working at a catholic school?

Religious institutions have a constitutional right to deny accepting people who's lifestyle choices go against their code of ethics, and the catholic church (and all christian churches, for that matter, with a few fringe exceptions), have disagreed with homosexual thoughts for the past two thousand years.

If you want to be open about your sexual preferences, please work somewhere where it doesn't go directly against the rules.

This is like applying for a job at PETA, and at the job interview you come in eating a bucket of KFC.

Fringes like the Episcopalians and the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America?

Gotta love us Episcopals. Catholic lite, indeed.

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Postby Ceannairceach » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:45 pm

Untaroicht wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:No, it isn't like that. Its like applying to work with PETA with a hamburger packed in your lunch pale, getting hired, eating it, then getting fired nineteen years later for this infraction. It is completely idiotic and wrong.


Are you even reading what I type? IF SHE CAN'T FOLLOW THE RULES, SHE'S GOT TO GO. It's like that for, oh, I don't know, every other job on the face of the planet. Do what your employers want you to do, or leave. it's that simple.

She was not punished for this alleged violation for nineteen years. They had the chance to fire her for being homosexual for years, and didn't. It is purely and in its face discrimination simply because she mentioned it in writing.
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Postby Cosara » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:46 pm

Untaroicht wrote:A shame she was fired, but, what did you expect by coming out of the closet while working at a catholic school?

Religious institutions have a constitutional right to deny accepting people who's lifestyle choices go against their code of ethics, and the catholic church (and all christian churches, for that matter, with a few fringe exceptions), have disagreed with homosexual thoughts for the past two thousand years.

If you want to be open about your sexual preferences, please work somewhere where it doesn't go directly against the rules.

This is like applying for a job at PETA, and at the job interview you come in eating a bucket of KFC.

Exactly.
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Postby Imsogone » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:46 pm

Untaroicht wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:No, it isn't like that. Its like applying to work with PETA with a hamburger packed in your lunch pale, getting hired, eating it, then getting fired nineteen years later for this infraction. It is completely idiotic and wrong.


Are you even reading what I type? IF SHE CAN'T FOLLOW THE RULES, SHE'S GOT TO GO. It's like that for, oh, I don't know, every other job on the face of the planet. Do what your employers want you to do, or leave. it's that simple.


Even if the employer waits 19 years to fire you for an infraction they knew about from the gitgo? That seems a bit - oh, I don't know ... illogical?
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Postby Ceannairceach » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:46 pm

Cosara wrote:
Untaroicht wrote:A shame she was fired, but, what did you expect by coming out of the closet while working at a catholic school?

Religious institutions have a constitutional right to deny accepting people who's lifestyle choices go against their code of ethics, and the catholic church (and all christian churches, for that matter, with a few fringe exceptions), have disagreed with homosexual thoughts for the past two thousand years.

If you want to be open about your sexual preferences, please work somewhere where it doesn't go directly against the rules.

This is like applying for a job at PETA, and at the job interview you come in eating a bucket of KFC.

Exactly.

No, not at all.`

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Postby Thoricia » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:48 pm

You know every time I see a story like this I imagine a bunch of religious homophobes standing around a huge hole going "Fuck that don't look near deep enough maybe we should keep digging"

Idiots.
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Postby Anachronous Rex » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:49 pm

Yes, well these people are clearly morons...
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Postby Cosara » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:49 pm

Thoricia wrote:You know every time I see a story like this I imagine a bunch of religious homophobes standing around a huge hole going "Fuck that don't look near deep enough maybe we should keep digging"

Idiots.

So, you're an idiot for upholding your religious code? :eyebrow:
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Postby Untaroicht » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:49 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Untaroicht wrote:A shame she was fired, but, what did you expect by coming out of the closet while working at a catholic school?

Religious institutions have a constitutional right to deny accepting people who's lifestyle choices go against their code of ethics, and the catholic church (and all christian churches, for that matter, with a few fringe exceptions), have disagreed with homosexual thoughts for the past two thousand years.

If you want to be open about your sexual preferences, please work somewhere where it doesn't go directly against the rules.

This is like applying for a job at PETA, and at the job interview you come in eating a bucket of KFC.

Fringes like the Episcopalians and the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America?

And this teacher was very careful about not being open, but her mother's obituary mentioned her partner.


The Evangelical Church, the same group that brought us the wonders of Chick Tracts (which is kind of like a radical christian version of scientology: the comic, for those of you who never read it), and the Episcopal Church, who frequently disregard doctrine laid down in sacred holy scripture and replace it with modernized jargon for PR purposes?
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Postby Ceannairceach » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:50 pm

Cosara wrote:
Thoricia wrote:You know every time I see a story like this I imagine a bunch of religious homophobes standing around a huge hole going "Fuck that don't look near deep enough maybe we should keep digging"

Idiots.

So, you're an idiot for upholding your religious code? :eyebrow:

No, you're an idiot for using it to discriminate needlessly.

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Postby Anachronous Rex » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:50 pm

Cosara wrote:
Thoricia wrote:You know every time I see a story like this I imagine a bunch of religious homophobes standing around a huge hole going "Fuck that don't look near deep enough maybe we should keep digging"

Idiots.

So, you're an idiot for upholding your religious code? :eyebrow:

Often. Yes.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:51 pm

Untaroicht wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Fringes like the Episcopalians and the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America?

And this teacher was very careful about not being open, but her mother's obituary mentioned her partner.


...the Episcopal Church, who frequently disregard doctrine laid down in sacred holy scripture and replace it with modernized jargon for PR purposes?

Source on that? As an atheistic Episcopal, I take mild offense.

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Postby The New Earth Coalition » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:51 pm

Its a Catholic school, which is obviously not related to the State, but only to the Church. So no one can pull that separation of church and state BS. If she wants to go against God at one of God's schools, she took the risk.
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The New Earth Coalition wrote:Its a Catholic school, which is obviously not related to the State, but only to the Church. So no one can pull that separation of church and state BS. If she wants to go against God at one of God's schools, she took the risk.

She didn't choose to out herself in her mother's obituary. It was not her that wrote it, it was not her that published it. She was punished for something out of her control.

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Postby Cosara » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:52 pm

The New Earth Coalition wrote:Its a Catholic school, which is obviously not related to the State, but only to the Church. So no one can pull that separation of church and state BS. If she wants to go against God at one of God's schools, she took the risk.

This sums up exactly what I think.
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Postby Anachronous Rex » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:52 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Untaroicht wrote:
...the Episcopal Church, who frequently disregard doctrine laid down in sacred holy scripture and replace it with modernized jargon for PR purposes?

Source on that? As an atheistic Episcopal, I take mild offense.

Because the Catholics would never do that, right?

That's why it's impossible to get a Bible in English in Catholic communities.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:53 pm

Cosara wrote:
The New Earth Coalition wrote:Its a Catholic school, which is obviously not related to the State, but only to the Church. So no one can pull that separation of church and state BS. If she wants to go against God at one of God's schools, she took the risk.

This sums up exactly what I think.

I'll remember this the next time you or anyone else says anything about the unemployed being lazy.

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Postby Thoricia » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:53 pm

Cosara wrote:
Thoricia wrote:You know every time I see a story like this I imagine a bunch of religious homophobes standing around a huge hole going "Fuck that don't look near deep enough maybe we should keep digging"

Idiots.

So, you're an idiot for upholding your religious code? :eyebrow:

So if your Christian your supposed to be against gay people? I guess I read to much into the part about accepting everyone for who they are silly me.
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