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Union of Democratic Socialists wrote:

Benuty wrote:
What if I told you

"Bigotry is Bigotry no matter what clause of the law it hides under"

It is not Bigotry. I disagree with the Catholics on actually firing her but as a private school they have that right.

So? A private school can fire people for being niggers?

Union of Democratic Socialists wrote:

Benuty wrote:
What if I told you

"Bigotry is Bigotry no matter what clause of the law it hides under"

It is not Bigotry. I disagree with the Catholics on actually firing her but as a private school they have that right.

They fired her on the basis of her sexual orientation after an extended period of time " Oh shit your a lesbian...fired"

They seemed fine with her until that moment.

The Black Forrest wrote:

greed and death wrote:You bring up a good point, the church could fire her for premartial sex.

Then there would be few choices left to teach.

You could go to the Nuns and Priests but even then those numbers would drop.

Could you fire a Priest or non for premarital sex?

Yes to the firing of a Priest. There is an alternative, don't tell people that you are homosexual, or had a premartial affair. Besides then a Christian could be forgiven by God and keep their job.

Union of Democratic Socialists wrote:

Benuty wrote:
What if I told you

"Bigotry is Bigotry no matter what clause of the law it hides under"

It is not Bigotry. I disagree with the Catholics on actually firing her but as a private school they have that right.

Just because you have the right to do something, doesn't make it not bigoted...

Anachronous Rex wrote:

Farnhamia wrote:A Christian doing it in defense of Christianity. I've been thinking about this and in a way, this is a good thing. It points up, once again, how hidebound and inflexible religious institutions can be. The public needs to be shown that from time to time, lest they forget.

Indeed.

Similarly, in someways, I wish Aztec Paganism were still a practiced thing. It would be terrible and genocidal, of course, but at least it would free people of this notion that, "religion practiced properly is always peaceful."

Has anyone demanded that we respect religion because it is? I've lost track.

Imsogone wrote:

Union of Democratic Socialists wrote:
Then I would inform you that you are stupid. CATHOLIC SCHOOL! Also meaning it is private and the government can not enforce the rule of allowing a homosexual to teach.

If they are getting Federal or State funding for any reason, then they have to comply with Federal and State rule. As I understand it parochial schools do get such funding.

Catholic Schools don't. They are ran and funded by the Catholic Church.

Union of Democratic Socialists wrote:

The Black Forrest wrote:
Then there would be few choices left to teach.

You could go to the Nuns and Priests but even then those numbers would drop.

Could you fire a Priest or non for premarital sex?

Yes to the firing of a Priest. There is an alternative, don't tell people that you are homosexual, or had a premartial affair. Besides then a Christian could be forgiven by God and keep their job.

I'm not sure Yahweh is all that happy with liars, either.

Just saying that she should have known what the Catholic opinion on homosexuals was before getting a job or keeping it quite.

Cosara wrote:Catholic Schools don't. They are ran and funded by the Catholic Church.

Irrelevant. They must still adhere to the law.

Anachronous Rex wrote:

Union of Democratic Socialists wrote:
It is not Bigotry. I disagree with the Catholics on actually firing her but as a private school they have that right.

Just because you have the right to do something, doesn't make it not bigoted...

Of course it doesn't. Even I know that.

Farnhamia wrote:

Anachronous Rex wrote:Indeed.

Similarly, in someways, I wish Aztec Paganism were still a practiced thing. It would be terrible and genocidal, of course, but at least it would free people of this notion that, "religion practiced properly is always peaceful."

Has anyone demanded that we respect religion because it is? I've lost track.

On this thread, I don't believe so...

Cosara wrote:

Imsogone wrote:
If they are getting Federal or State funding for any reason, then they have to comply with Federal and State rule. As I understand it parochial schools do get such funding.

Catholic Schools don't. They are ran and funded by the Catholic Church.

The United States constitution is the supreme law of the United states last time I checked.

Benuty wrote:

Cosara wrote:Catholic Schools don't. They are ran and funded by the Catholic Church.

The United States constitution is the supreme law of the United states last time I checked.

And I'd like to Amend the Constitution and add a clause banning Same-Sex Marriage.

Cosara wrote:

The Black Forrest wrote:
Well? She worked 19 years for the school. A small blurb in the paper about her mother's death mentioned it. She get's tossed.

So yes that's pretty fucking stupid.

I say they should have never hired her in the first place, and am just glad that they fired her.

Cosara, to put it mildly :
that´s stupid.
If you think you´re helping...you´re not.

As much as I don't like it, it's a catholic school, they can do whatever they want under their religion.

Cosara wrote:

Benuty wrote:
The United States constitution is the supreme law of the United states last time I checked.

And I'd like to Amend the Constitution and add a clause banning Same-Sex Marriage.

Tough shit. That doesn't get you out of what it currently says.

Union of Democratic Socialists wrote:Just saying that she should have known what the Catholic opinion on homosexuals was before getting a job or keeping it quite.

After 19 years?

Then again the Catholics did try to hide the pedo priests for years but of course that is not hypocrisy.......

Lunalia wrote:

The Black Forrest wrote:
Then there would be few choices left to teach.

You could go to the Nuns and Priests but even then those numbers would drop.

Could you fire a Priest or non for premarital sex?

I wasn't even thinking premarital sex, I was thinking that they might want teachers who are both chaste and celibate, because technically the act of having sex is a sin whether to produce offspring or not. The having children part is what makes it tolerable rather than outright banned.

Possibly yes they could. They could certainly kick them out of teh church.

At risk of repeating myself. Chastity and celibacy have nothing to do with it. My sister taught for a parochial school for over 30 years. She was a practicing Wiccan living with, but not married to (and yes they were having regular and, if she was to be believed, quite satisfying, sex) a man nineteen years her junior. In addition, it was an open relationship, so they periodically had sexual "adventures" outside the relationship. The school administration knew this, yet she was not fired or penalized in anyway.

Cosara wrote:

Benuty wrote:
The United States constitution is the supreme law of the United states last time I checked.

And I'd like to Amend the Constitution and add a clause banning Same-Sex Marriage.

Good thing most people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Cosara wrote:And I'd like to Amend the Constitution and add a clause banning Same-Sex Marriage.

Good luck trying.

The Black Forrest wrote:

Union of Democratic Socialists wrote:
It is not Bigotry. I disagree with the Catholics on actually firing her but as a private school they have that right.

So? A private school can fire people for being niggers?

I think they could by law but it would look very bad. Again I disagree with the actual firing. I am just trying to figure out why people are surpised by CATHOLICS FIRING A HOMOSEXUAL.

Cosara wrote:

Benuty wrote:
The United States constitution is the supreme law of the United states last time I checked.

And I'd like to Amend the Constitution and add a clause banning Same-Sex Marriage.

Opposed, for individuals have the right to choose for social matters.

Anachronous Rex wrote:

Cosara wrote:And I'd like to Amend the Constitution and add a clause banning Same-Sex Marriage.

Good thing most people on NSG aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Fixed

Cosara wrote:

Benuty wrote:
The United States constitution is the supreme law of the United states last time I checked.

And I'd like to Amend the Constitution and add a clause banning Same-Sex Marriage.

Why stop there? Ban interracial marriage as well.

Anachronous Rex wrote:

Cosara wrote:And I'd like to Amend the Constitution and add a clause banning Same-Sex Marriage.

Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.