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Postby The Progressive Society » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:05 pm

During the recession and recovery the upper class managed to get even wealthier here in the states. Read here http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/art ... g-recovery

I know this is old news, even though its a new article. But it makes you think about how bad wealth gaps are in America, and what we need to do to overcome them.

What do you think of the article, and the rising inequality in the U.S?
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Postby Technopolis » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:07 pm

I'd put this on the ridiculous notion of trickle down economics.
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Postby TaQud » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:07 pm

not surprised. :meh:
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Postby The Progressive Society » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:10 pm

TaQud wrote:not surprised. :meh:


Neither am I, the question is what to do with, and what people think about the massive wealth gaps in the U.S
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Postby Neu California » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:10 pm

Meanwhile, Pope confirms his catholicism, bears seen to shit in woods, etc. etc.

Really, you think the rich aren't going to get ricker by any means necessary?
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Postby Esternial » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:10 pm

So far for predictions that the wealthy would have their wealth stolen by the ebil korupt gubbermint.

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Postby Olivaero » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:10 pm

Obviously They have been working harder than the poor I mean that's what capitalism does isn't it? It rewards Hard work with money the harder some one works the more money they get.... right?
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Postby Maurepas » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:13 pm

I don't have a problem with the rich getting wealthier. I have a problem with them getting wealthier and then doing everything they can to fight paying their taxes.

Hell, get as wealthy as you want, but our government needs to make sure that they're giving back to society in return.

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Postby Napkiraly » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:13 pm

In other breaking news zoologists have finally confirmed the question that has been plaguing mankind for thousands of years. Bears do indeed shit in woods.

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Postby Neu California » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:14 pm

Napkiraly wrote:In other breaking news zoologists have finally confirmed the question that has been plaguing mankind for thousands of years. Bears do indeed shit in woods.


Beat you to it:

Neu California wrote:Meanwhile, Pope confirms his catholicism, bears seen to shit in woods, etc. etc.

Really, you think the rich aren't going to get ricker by any means necessary?
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Postby Napkiraly » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:15 pm

Maurepas wrote:I don't have a problem with the rich getting wealthier. I have a problem with them getting wealthier and then doing everything they can to fight paying their taxes.

Hell, get as wealthy as you want, but our government needs to make sure that they're giving back to society in return.

I also wouldn't mind if everyone else got wealthier in the process and that the gaps weren't so freaking large.

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Postby Anollasia » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:15 pm

Not a surprise, US is very capitalist.

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Postby Lillitania » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:15 pm

Wait, that's not supposed to happen! The rich shouldn't be profiting,I mean, it's not like they continue to do what ever made them very wealthy and powerful. Man, this whole economy thing is just a bad idea...

Maurepas wrote:Hell, get as wealthy as you want, but our government needs to make sure that they're giving back to society in return.


The U.S. populace isn't very fond of taxes, and the rich do "give back" in terms of paying taxes; Those who do pay taxes, anyway.
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Postby The Progressive Society » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:17 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Maurepas wrote:I don't have a problem with the rich getting wealthier. I have a problem with them getting wealthier and then doing everything they can to fight paying their taxes.

Hell, get as wealthy as you want, but our government needs to make sure that they're giving back to society in return.

I also wouldn't mind if everyone else got wealthier in the process and that the gaps weren't so freaking large.


That'd be great, but capitalism exists.
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Postby Kamchastkia » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:19 pm

As long as the rich are in a position to exploit the workers, they will always prosper in times when the poor, working people suffer. :)

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Postby Luziyca » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:19 pm

I place it on American imperialism, which was designed to benefit the rich, to the detriment of the ordinary peoples.
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Postby Maurepas » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:22 pm

Lillitania wrote:
Maurepas wrote:Hell, get as wealthy as you want, but our government needs to make sure that they're giving back to society in return.


The U.S. populace isn't very fond of taxes, the rich do "give back" in terms of paying taxes; Those who do, anyway.

Well I didn't say I was all that happy with the US populace either. Too often they're too ignorant to realize they're being gullible idiots.

Case in point, ask any believer in "Trickle-Down" economics who makes less than fifty grand a year.

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Postby Bombadil » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:23 pm

...but the poor have TVs, so like everyone is better off.
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Postby Kamchastkia » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:24 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Lillitania wrote:


The U.S. populace isn't very fond of taxes, the rich do "give back" in terms of paying taxes; Those who do, anyway.

Well I didn't say I was all that happy with the US populace either. Too often they're too ignorant to realize they're being gullible idiots.

Case in point, ask any believer in "Trickle-Down" economics who makes less than fifty grand a year.

Reminds me of my father in economics. Americans are single-issue voters usually. My father supports republicans only because they're against the GAWD DAYUM gayus, but is pro-union and pro-many other socialist ideas, ignorance is the leading cause of this. Which has left the far-right AKA the rich (this includes democrats) to make their own policies regarding taxation against themselves.

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Postby Maurepas » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:25 pm

Bombadil wrote:...but the poor have TVs, so like everyone is better off.

Which is pretty much the most condescending argument I hear out of Republicans.

"You've got a Refrigerator, you're not poor!" - Newt Gingrich while he's on his Yacht counting money.

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Postby Christian Democrats » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:25 pm

The Progressive Society wrote:What do you think of the article, and the rising inequality in the U.S?

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Postby Kamchastkia » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:26 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Bombadil wrote:...but the poor have TVs, so like everyone is better off.

Which is pretty much the most condescending argument I hear out of Republicans.

"You've got a Refrigerator, you're not poor!" - Newt Gingrich while he's on his Yacht counting money.

"A buncha poor people had FLAT SCREEN televisions!!!!!!!!!" *Sits on toilet made of pure gold*

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Postby The Progressive Society » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:27 pm

Kamchastkia wrote:
Maurepas wrote:Well I didn't say I was all that happy with the US populace either. Too often they're too ignorant to realize they're being gullible idiots.

Case in point, ask any believer in "Trickle-Down" economics who makes less than fifty grand a year.

Reminds me of my father in economics. Americans are single-issue voters usually. My father supports republicans only because they're against the GAWD DAYUM gayus, but is pro-union and pro-many other socialist ideas, ignorance is the leading cause of this. Which has left the far-right AKA the rich (this includes democrats) to make their own policies regarding taxation against themselves.


It's true, I know people who support a free market, but are liberal on every other issue, but they vote republican. I think Im the only third party voter in my state.
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Postby Maurepas » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:27 pm

Kamchastkia wrote:
Maurepas wrote:Well I didn't say I was all that happy with the US populace either. Too often they're too ignorant to realize they're being gullible idiots.

Case in point, ask any believer in "Trickle-Down" economics who makes less than fifty grand a year.

Reminds me of my father in economics. Americans are single-issue voters usually. My father supports republicans only because they're against the GAWD DAYUM gayus, but is pro-union and pro-many other socialist ideas, ignorance is the leading cause of this. Which has left the far-right AKA the rich (this includes democrats) to make their own policies regarding taxation against themselves.

My dad's the same way. He'll basically give you an entire Socialist dissertation without actually using the word.

But because he hates the word "Socialist" and the Democrats nominated a Black Guy he wouldn't be caught dead voting for them.

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