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Postby Grave_n_idle » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:11 pm

Sibirsky wrote:He had a Cuban flag with Che at a campaign office.


No, 'he' didn't. The Houston campaign office might have had one, accoding to the picture you posted earlier.

Sibirsky wrote:He has advisors telling him that capitalism must be dismantled brick by brick.


That's not a source - that's you claiming stuff.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:13 pm

Gauthier wrote:
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Well, he obviously hasn't pulled the wool over your eyes. Please, enlighten us, or great political guru.


Why bother? You'll dismiss any point I try to make, and then make some attempt to belittle me in an attempt to make yourself appear superior.

from the way you are using that word, me thinks you know not what marxism is. Go read the communist manifesto and then come back and try again.


He probably has the Theme Park version of Communism in mind, where everyone dresses up in red and brown furs and calls everyone "Comrade".


That sounds awesome.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:14 pm

Sibirsky wrote:
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It seems he really only said he wanted to distance himself from the Establishment when he was younger, whats the BFD? I mean unless you love the Establishment, Sibirsky. Honestly if he wasn't anti-establishment as a youngster I would be concerned, myself.


He is a Marxist. Half his administration, combined with those words from his book prove it.


Your 'proof' doesn't 'prove' your claim.
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Postby Bavin » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:18 pm

Island sodor wrote:HA you people will never understand, LONG LIVE COMRADE OBAMA!!!

That my friend, is an extreamly well-thought out and presented argument. Kudos.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:18 pm

Sibirsky wrote:2. It was a campaign worker. Really, you do not see any similarity between him and other socialists? I see plenty.


I think this says more about you than him...
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:22 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:2. It was a campaign worker. Really, you do not see any similarity between him and other socialists? I see plenty.


I think this says more about you than him...


Probably checks under his bed every night for Commies.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:24 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:2. It was a campaign worker. Really, you do not see any similarity between him and other socialists? I see plenty.


I think this says more about you than him...


Probably checks under his bed every night for Commies.


It's the commies! They're everywhere!

You might not see them, but I do!
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Postby Bavin » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:26 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:2. It was a campaign worker. Really, you do not see any similarity between him and other socialists? I see plenty.


I think this says more about you than him...


Probably checks under his bed every night for Commies.

I check my bed for Fassies... :?
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Postby Bunyippie » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:26 pm

quick, someone raise McCarthy from the dead!
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Postby Allbeama » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:29 pm

Bunyippie wrote:quick, someone raise McCarthy from the dead!

Zombie McCarthy must not be allowed to rise!
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Postby Israslovakahzerbajan » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:31 pm

Bunyippie wrote:quick, someone raise McCarthy from the dead!



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Postby Bavin » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:33 pm

Allbeama wrote:
Bunyippie wrote:quick, someone raise McCarthy from the dead!

Zombie McCarthy must not be allowed to rise!

Near the end.
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Postby The Southron Nation » Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:59 am

Allbeama wrote:*snip*

I also find the cross offensive, but for reasons that involve racism only to a minute extent. Unfortunately the US flag is being used to promote hate, but I wouldn't compare it to the swastika just yet.


i was relating the murder of 6 million Jews to the murder of a few million Native Americans. those who reason that a person in possession of a Nazi flag is a racist b/c of the final solution neglect to recall that our nation also participated in its own final solution. they also neglect to recall that Sherman burned an entire state to the ground and exchanged correspondence w/ his wife lamenting his failure to eradicate every last slave and southroner.

Allbeama wrote: That said, I oppose the idea that our country is something perfect that we must idealize, the only proper course of action is to actually make this country a decent place to live in. The rampant Nationalism inherent in the opposition to Obama is far more frightening to me than anything Obama's administration is doing.


you are absolutely dead on with that statement. even as a staunch conservative myself, i am appalled at the nonsense that spews from the mouths of Obama's opponents in my party. nationalism is just as much a concern to me as socialism. b/c nationalism always translates into imperialism. just as democracy translates into socialism.

Allbeama wrote:And if you want to know, I do hold the Christian cross responsible for all sorts of death and tyranny, so don't even think I have a whole lot of love for that symbol.


this is a whole other conversation to have. but i see your point. i disagree in some respect, but i certainly understand it. there are no rose tinted glasses here.
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Postby New Mitanni » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:04 pm

Californian Mod Haters wrote:What do you have against Obama?


Is this a follow-up to your earlier thread:

To those who hate George W. Bush personally:

What do you have against Bush?


Oops, I forgot: you never wrote any such thread. Neither did anyone else on this board IIRC.

But to answer your question, briefly and succinctly: because he is an enemy of my personal freedom. Along with Botox Pelosi, Dingy Harry Reid, Boy Barney Frank, Robin and the rest of the extreme-left wing Democrats who have seized control of my country.
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Postby Goath » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:12 pm

New Mitanni wrote:
Californian Mod Haters wrote:What do you have against Obama?


Is this a follow-up to your earlier thread:

To those who hate George W. Bush personally:

What do you have against Bush?


Oops, I forgot: you never wrote any such thread. Neither did anyone else on this board IIRC.

But to answer your question, briefly and succinctly: because he is an enemy of my personal freedom. Along with Botox Pelosi, Dingy Harry Reid, Boy Barney Frank, Robin and the rest of the extreme-left wing Democrats who have seized control of my country.


At least we have you here to remind us how awful things could be if your side was still in control. I mean, we could have leaders who act and think like you!

"Enemy of my personal freedom" I'll assume you were also really upset about the warrantless wiretapping, too. And no one "seized" control of "your" country- the majority elected better leaders into office.
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Postby Kalakda » Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:28 pm

We're gonna kick his ass out inc 2012!!!!!!! YEAH!!!!!! 8)
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Postby Gauthier » Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:33 pm

Kalakda wrote:We're gonna kick his ass out inc 2012!!!!!!! YEAH!!!!!! 8)


With who, Sarah Palin?
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:44 pm

New Mitanni wrote:
Californian Mod Haters wrote:What do you have against Obama?


Is this a follow-up to your earlier thread:

To those who hate George W. Bush personally:

What do you have against Bush?


Oops, I forgot: you never wrote any such thread. Neither did anyone else on this board IIRC.

But to answer your question, briefly and succinctly: because he is an enemy of my personal freedom. Along with Botox Pelosi, Dingy Harry Reid, Boy Barney Frank, Robin and the rest of the extreme-left wing Democrats who have seized control of my country.


Democracy 'seized control' of 'your country'.

It turns out you're not the majority.
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Postby Bavin » Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:48 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Kalakda wrote:We're gonna kick his ass out inc 2012!!!!!!! YEAH!!!!!! 8)


With who, Sarah Palin?

Don't scare me like that....

New Mitanni wrote:
Californian Mod Haters wrote:What do you have against Obama?


Is this a follow-up to your earlier thread:

To those who hate George W. Bush personally:

What do you have against Bush?


Oops, I forgot: you never wrote any such thread. Neither did anyone else on this board IIRC.

But to answer your question, briefly and succinctly: because he is an enemy of my personal freedom. Along with Botox Pelosi, Dingy Harry Reid, Boy Barney Frank, Robin and the rest of the extreme-left wing Democrats who have seized control of my country.

Extreme-left wing? :eyebrow:
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:49 pm

Bavin wrote:Extreme-left wing? :eyebrow:


You have to remember that Mitty is talking subjectively.
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Postby The Norse Hordes » Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:52 pm

New Mitanni wrote:
Californian Mod Haters wrote:What do you have against Obama?


Is this a follow-up to your earlier thread:

To those who hate George W. Bush personally:

What do you have against Bush?


Oops, I forgot: you never wrote any such thread. Neither did anyone else on this board IIRC.



Maybe thats because its easy to hate a war criminal? Almost as easy as it is for you to hate a black man.
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Postby Allbeama » Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:52 pm

The Southron Nation wrote:
Allbeama wrote:*snip*

I also find the cross offensive, but for reasons that involve racism only to a minute extent. Unfortunately the US flag is being used to promote hate, but I wouldn't compare it to the swastika just yet.


i was relating the murder of 6 million Jews to the murder of a few million Native Americans. those who reason that a person in possession of a Nazi flag is a racist b/c of the final solution neglect to recall that our nation also participated in its own final solution. they also neglect to recall that Sherman burned an entire state to the ground and exchanged correspondence w/ his wife lamenting his failure to eradicate every last slave and southroner.

Allbeama wrote: That said, I oppose the idea that our country is something perfect that we must idealize, the only proper course of action is to actually make this country a decent place to live in. The rampant Nationalism inherent in the opposition to Obama is far more frightening to me than anything Obama's administration is doing.


you are absolutely dead on with that statement. even as a staunch conservative myself, i am appalled at the nonsense that spews from the mouths of Obama's opponents in my party. nationalism is just as much a concern to me as socialism. b/c nationalism always translates into imperialism. just as democracy translates into socialism.

Allbeama wrote:And if you want to know, I do hold the Christian cross responsible for all sorts of death and tyranny, so don't even think I have a whole lot of love for that symbol.


this is a whole other conversation to have. but i see your point. i disagree in some respect, but i certainly understand it. there are no rose tinted glasses here.

The swastika is a racist symbol because of the Hate speech associated with it as well the atrocities committed under it. The same is true for the stars and bars. The United States does have a history of atrocities, but it also has a history of commitment to improvement and change. That is what patriotism is to me, working and struggling to make a more enlightened , a more free, and more just society.
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Postby EVIL BEYOND COMPARE » Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:54 pm

he is destroying this nation economy and making our deficit go way up. and now this health care bill , if passed will destroy the economy

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Postby Goath » Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:59 pm

EVIL BEYOND COMPARE wrote:he is destroying this nation economy and making our deficit go way up. and now this health care bill , if passed will destroy the economy


And because the Mayan calendar ends in 2012 we know zombie Jesus is soon to return to the earth!

Seriously...
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:00 pm

EVIL BEYOND COMPARE wrote:he is destroying this nation economy and making our deficit go way up. and now this health care bill , if passed will destroy the economy


I thought he WAS destroying the economy?

How can he both be destorying it, already AND being about to destroy it if he gets his way?
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