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Postby Californian Mod Haters » Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:53 pm

Krazniastan wrote:
Goath wrote:If Al Gore had been President we would have never, ever found ourselves in the disastrous mess we are in today- specifically we wouldn't have ever EVER invaded Iraq.


You're absolutely right. And it would be because we'd still be listening to his speech in response to the 9/11 attacks and how it would impact his development of the social security 'lockbox'. . . .

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Postby Gauthier » Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:54 pm

Derscon wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Derscon wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
Derscon wrote:
Buffett and Colbert wrote:
Mumakata dos wrote:Well, by that reasoning, Obummer has killed brown people too.

Except, tell me who started the war.


Then tell me who ended it. Oh wait...

No-one yet.


My point. Obama - and for that matter, all of Congress - still has blood on their hands. And a few drops drip on those Americans that vote for those congressmen and executives not opposed to the war.


Which makes Obama in 200 days with clear obstacles in Congress much, much worse than Dubya running rampant for 8 whole years with a mostly Republican backing. Yeah, let's impeach Sauron and put Sarah Palin the White House instead.


Is it just because its NSG, or do you always make stupid logic jumps in your daily life?


If you haven't noticed, the Middle East isn't the only thing of primary concern to the Obama administration. There's also health care, gay rights, the deficit, and of course everyone who voted for Obama on their pet agenda are all bitching at him about not giving them their cake fast enough. But hey, Obama isn't personally shipping the troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan so that makes him Worse Than Bush, right?
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Postby Bavin » Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:55 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Derscon wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Derscon wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
Derscon wrote:
Buffett and Colbert wrote:
Mumakata dos wrote:Well, by that reasoning, Obummer has killed brown people too.

Except, tell me who started the war.


Then tell me who ended it. Oh wait...

No-one yet.


My point. Obama - and for that matter, all of Congress - still has blood on their hands. And a few drops drip on those Americans that vote for those congressmen and executives not opposed to the war.


Which makes Obama in 200 days with clear obstacles in Congress much, much worse than Dubya running rampant for 8 whole years with a mostly Republican backing. Yeah, let's impeach Sauron and put Sarah Palin the White House instead.


Is it just because its NSG, or do you always make stupid logic jumps in your daily life?


If you haven't noticed, the Middle East isn't the only thing of primary concern to the Obama administration. There's also health care, gay rights, the deficit, and of course everyone who voted for Obama on their pet agenda are all bitching at him about not giving them their cake fast enough. But hey, Obama isn't personally shipping the troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan so that makes him Worse Than Bush, right?

Didn't they finalize plans to pull out in 2011?
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Postby Derscon » Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:55 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Derscon wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Derscon wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
Derscon wrote:
Buffett and Colbert wrote:
Mumakata dos wrote:Well, by that reasoning, Obummer has killed brown people too.

Except, tell me who started the war.


Then tell me who ended it. Oh wait...

No-one yet.


My point. Obama - and for that matter, all of Congress - still has blood on their hands. And a few drops drip on those Americans that vote for those congressmen and executives not opposed to the war.


Which makes Obama in 200 days with clear obstacles in Congress much, much worse than Dubya running rampant for 8 whole years with a mostly Republican backing. Yeah, let's impeach Sauron and put Sarah Palin the White House instead.


Is it just because its NSG, or do you always make stupid logic jumps in your daily life?


If you haven't noticed, the Middle East isn't the only thing of primary concern to the Obama administration. There's also health care, gay rights, the deficit, and of course everyone who voted for Obama on their pet agenda are all bitch at him about not giving them their cake fast enough. But hey, Obama isn't personally shipping the troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan so that makes him Worse Than Bush, right?


You are, once again, making unfounded assumptions about my position and opinions. Again, is this because it's NSG, or do you do this in your daily life, too?
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Postby EVIL BEYOND COMPARE » Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:55 pm

he is far to un experienced to be president. i mean you can't learn in office you should learn before office.

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Postby Tekania » Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:56 pm

I hate Obama because he dispatched his brownshirts out.... secretly.... invaded my house.... and had me put to death.... twice....
Such heroic nonsense!

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Postby Gauthier » Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:57 pm

Derscon wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Derscon wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Derscon wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
Derscon wrote:
Buffett and Colbert wrote:
Mumakata dos wrote:Well, by that reasoning, Obummer has killed brown people too.

Except, tell me who started the war.


Then tell me who ended it. Oh wait...

No-one yet.


My point. Obama - and for that matter, all of Congress - still has blood on their hands. And a few drops drip on those Americans that vote for those congressmen and executives not opposed to the war.


Which makes Obama in 200 days with clear obstacles in Congress much, much worse than Dubya running rampant for 8 whole years with a mostly Republican backing. Yeah, let's impeach Sauron and put Sarah Palin the White House instead.


Is it just because its NSG, or do you always make stupid logic jumps in your daily life?


If you haven't noticed, the Middle East isn't the only thing of primary concern to the Obama administration. There's also health care, gay rights, the deficit, and of course everyone who voted for Obama on their pet agenda are all bitch at him about not giving them their cake fast enough. But hey, Obama isn't personally shipping the troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan so that makes him Worse Than Bush, right?


You are, once again, making unfounded assumptions about my position and opinions. Again, is this because it's NSG, or do you do this in your daily life, too?


You're saying Obama is just as guilty because he's not pulling the troops out fast enough, I highlighted that point for your convenience. And my point is, it's not like the war is the only thing he's busy with right now.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Bavin » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:00 pm

EVIL BEYOND COMPARE wrote:he is far to un experienced to be president. i mean you can't learn in office you should learn before office.

The word you are looking for in inexperienced. Just thought I would point that out. :p
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Postby Californian Mod Haters » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:01 pm

EVIL BEYOND COMPARE wrote:he is far to un experienced to be president. i mean you can't learn in office you should learn before office.

Learn proper grammar before you learn how to use a computer.

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Postby Derscon » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:02 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Derscon wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Derscon wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Derscon wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
Derscon wrote:
Buffett and Colbert wrote:
Mumakata dos wrote:Well, by that reasoning, Obummer has killed brown people too.

Except, tell me who started the war.


Then tell me who ended it. Oh wait...

No-one yet.


My point. Obama - and for that matter, all of Congress - still has blood on their hands. And a few drops drip on those Americans that vote for those congressmen and executives not opposed to the war.


Which makes Obama in 200 days with clear obstacles in Congress much, much worse than Dubya running rampant for 8 whole years with a mostly Republican backing. Yeah, let's impeach Sauron and put Sarah Palin the White House instead.


Is it just because its NSG, or do you always make stupid logic jumps in your daily life?


If you haven't noticed, the Middle East isn't the only thing of primary concern to the Obama administration. There's also health care, gay rights, the deficit, and of course everyone who voted for Obama on their pet agenda are all bitch at him about not giving them their cake fast enough. But hey, Obama isn't personally shipping the troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan so that makes him Worse Than Bush, right?


You are, once again, making unfounded assumptions about my position and opinions. Again, is this because it's NSG, or do you do this in your daily life, too?


You're saying Obama is just as guilty because he's not pulling the troops out fast enough, I highlighted that point for your convenience. And my point is, it's not like the war is the only thing he's busy with right now.


I know what I said. Your next two posts, however, were making other assumptions about my opinions and inflating them based on effectively nothing. This third post if yours, though, does not do so, so thank you.

Anyway, I don't think he's Worse Than Bush, no, not yet, although I won't hide the fact I have serious issues with his policies. I also am aware of the fact he has "other things to deal with," but not stopping the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of people, but instead having the only things done about it are to send more troops, is not particularly a mark in his favor. He may not yet have as much blood on his hands as Bush does (he that took baths in it), but his inaction leaves his fingers stained with death. If he were pushing for withdraw - and I mean legitimately pushing, not just giving a nice speech or two - and Congress was actively fighting it, then that would be one thing. But he is not acting at all, even though he said he would.
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Postby Bavin » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:03 pm

Derscon wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Derscon wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Derscon wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Derscon wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
Derscon wrote:
Buffett and Colbert wrote:
Mumakata dos wrote:Well, by that reasoning, Obummer has killed brown people too.

Except, tell me who started the war.


Then tell me who ended it. Oh wait...

No-one yet.


My point. Obama - and for that matter, all of Congress - still has blood on their hands. And a few drops drip on those Americans that vote for those congressmen and executives not opposed to the war.


Which makes Obama in 200 days with clear obstacles in Congress much, much worse than Dubya running rampant for 8 whole years with a mostly Republican backing. Yeah, let's impeach Sauron and put Sarah Palin the White House instead.


Is it just because its NSG, or do you always make stupid logic jumps in your daily life?


If you haven't noticed, the Middle East isn't the only thing of primary concern to the Obama administration. There's also health care, gay rights, the deficit, and of course everyone who voted for Obama on their pet agenda are all bitch at him about not giving them their cake fast enough. But hey, Obama isn't personally shipping the troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan so that makes him Worse Than Bush, right?


You are, once again, making unfounded assumptions about my position and opinions. Again, is this because it's NSG, or do you do this in your daily life, too?


You're saying Obama is just as guilty because he's not pulling the troops out fast enough, I highlighted that point for your convenience. And my point is, it's not like the war is the only thing he's busy with right now.


I know what I said. Your next two posts, however, were making other assumptions about my opinions and inflating them based on effectively nothing. This third post if yours, though, does not do so, so thank you.

Anyway, I don't think he's Worse Than Bush, no, not yet, although I won't hide the fact I have serious issues with his policies. I also am aware of the fact he has "other things to deal with," but not stopping the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of people, but instead having the only things done about it are to send more troops, is not particularly a mark in his favor. He may not yet have as much blood on his hands as Bush does (he that took baths in it), but his inaction leaves his fingers stained with death. If he were pushing for withdraw - and I mean legitimately pushing, not just giving a nice speech or two - and Congress was actively fighting it, then that would be one thing. But he is not acting at all, even though he said he would.

I wasn't aware that many people died... :eyebrow:
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Postby Derscon » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:06 pm

Bavin wrote:
Derscon wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Derscon wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Derscon wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Derscon wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
Derscon wrote:
Buffett and Colbert wrote:
Mumakata dos wrote:Well, by that reasoning, Obummer has killed brown people too.

Except, tell me who started the war.


Then tell me who ended it. Oh wait...

No-one yet.


My point. Obama - and for that matter, all of Congress - still has blood on their hands. And a few drops drip on those Americans that vote for those congressmen and executives not opposed to the war.


Which makes Obama in 200 days with clear obstacles in Congress much, much worse than Dubya running rampant for 8 whole years with a mostly Republican backing. Yeah, let's impeach Sauron and put Sarah Palin the White House instead.


Is it just because its NSG, or do you always make stupid logic jumps in your daily life?


If you haven't noticed, the Middle East isn't the only thing of primary concern to the Obama administration. There's also health care, gay rights, the deficit, and of course everyone who voted for Obama on their pet agenda are all bitch at him about not giving them their cake fast enough. But hey, Obama isn't personally shipping the troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan so that makes him Worse Than Bush, right?


You are, once again, making unfounded assumptions about my position and opinions. Again, is this because it's NSG, or do you do this in your daily life, too?


You're saying Obama is just as guilty because he's not pulling the troops out fast enough, I highlighted that point for your convenience. And my point is, it's not like the war is the only thing he's busy with right now.


I know what I said. Your next two posts, however, were making other assumptions about my opinions and inflating them based on effectively nothing. This third post if yours, though, does not do so, so thank you.

Anyway, I don't think he's Worse Than Bush, no, not yet, although I won't hide the fact I have serious issues with his policies. I also am aware of the fact he has "other things to deal with," but not stopping the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of people, but instead having the only things done about it are to send more troops, is not particularly a mark in his favor. He may not yet have as much blood on his hands as Bush does (he that took baths in it), but his inaction leaves his fingers stained with death. If he were pushing for withdraw - and I mean legitimately pushing, not just giving a nice speech or two - and Congress was actively fighting it, then that would be one thing. But he is not acting at all, even though he said he would.

I wasn't aware that many people died... :eyebrow:


Heh, yeah, I was going for a bit of a dramatic flair there. :P It's something around 94 thousand deaths in Iraq (estimating conservatively). But that doesn't change the fact there is a lot of unjust death going around.
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Postby Dyakovo » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:09 pm

EVIL BEYOND COMPARE wrote:he is far to un experienced to be president. i mean you can't learn in office you should learn before office.

Every first term President is inexperienced.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:10 pm

EVIL BEYOND COMPARE wrote:he is far to un experienced to be president. i mean you can't learn in office you should learn before office.


This is true. Only candidates who already have experience as President should be allowed to run for the office.






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Postby Gauthier » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:13 pm

Derscon wrote:I know what I said. Your next two posts, however, were making other assumptions about my opinions and inflating them based on effectively nothing. This third post if yours, though, does not do so, so thank you.

Anyway, I don't think he's Worse Than Bush, no, not yet, although I won't hide the fact I have serious issues with his policies. I also am aware of the fact he has "other things to deal with," but not stopping the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of people, but instead having the only things done about it are to send more troops, is not particularly a mark in his favor. He may not yet have as much blood on his hands as Bush does (he that took baths in it), but his inaction leaves his fingers stained with death. If he were pushing for withdraw - and I mean legitimately pushing, not just giving a nice speech or two - and Congress was actively fighting it, then that would be one thing. But he is not acting at all, even though he said he would.


And here, Obama is in a Damned If You Do, Damned If You Don't Situation.

Due to the clusterfuck that was Operation Iraqi Freedom- which drew heavily upon forces that were stationed in Afghanistan who were very, very close to completely exterminating the Taliban and spread American forces thin like Marmite, said Taliban was given a reprieve from extinction and built themselves back up to current state which is considerably formidable. That, coupled with questions about the legitimacy and integrity of Karzai's government means Obama faces two equally unpleasant outcomes.

Sending more troops in to help prop up the Karzai regime and keep the Taliban under wraps as best as possible is going to get Obama's supporters bitching at him about not pulling out fast enough.

On the other hand, if he does pull out with current state, chances are the Taliban are going to have a fair shot at overthrowing the current regime and re-establishing themselves. And if that happens, let's not kid ourselves. The Republican Noise Machine amongst others are going to use that as fuel for a massive spin that declares Obama a foreign policy failure, a terrorist-appeasing Chamberlain pussy who let the Evil Fundamentalists re-oppress women. And that flood of white noise of course is going to severely hamper his efforts in other areas, such as gay right, health care and the deficit.

Right now, Obama is the Dutch Kid with his finger in the dike, with everyone watching and bitching at him to pull out.
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Postby Jakra » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:16 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
EVIL BEYOND COMPARE wrote:he is far to un experienced to be president. i mean you can't learn in office you should learn before office.

Every first term President is inexperienced.



Don't you remember the last guy? He was inexperienced even at the end of his second term.
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Postby Sibirsky » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:21 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Derscon wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Derscon wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
Derscon wrote:
Buffett and Colbert wrote:
Mumakata dos wrote:Well, by that reasoning, Obummer has killed brown people too.

Except, tell me who started the war.


Then tell me who ended it. Oh wait...

No-one yet.


My point. Obama - and for that matter, all of Congress - still has blood on their hands. And a few drops drip on those Americans that vote for those congressmen and executives not opposed to the war.


Which makes Obama in 200 days with clear obstacles in Congress much, much worse than Dubya running rampant for 8 whole years with a mostly Republican backing. Yeah, let's impeach Sauron and put Sarah Palin the White House instead.


Is it just because its NSG, or do you always make stupid logic jumps in your daily life?


If you haven't noticed, the Middle East isn't the only thing of primary concern to the Obama administration. There's also health care, gay rights, the deficit, and of course everyone who voted for Obama on their pet agenda are all bitching at him about not giving them their cake fast enough. But hey, Obama isn't personally shipping the troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan so that makes him Worse Than Bush, right?


The deficit is a concern? Oh, I got it, that was sarcasm right? Haha, the comedian you are.
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Postby Derscon » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:21 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Derscon wrote:I know what I said. Your next two posts, however, were making other assumptions about my opinions and inflating them based on effectively nothing. This third post if yours, though, does not do so, so thank you.

Anyway, I don't think he's Worse Than Bush, no, not yet, although I won't hide the fact I have serious issues with his policies. I also am aware of the fact he has "other things to deal with," but not stopping the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of people, but instead having the only things done about it are to send more troops, is not particularly a mark in his favor. He may not yet have as much blood on his hands as Bush does (he that took baths in it), but his inaction leaves his fingers stained with death. If he were pushing for withdraw - and I mean legitimately pushing, not just giving a nice speech or two - and Congress was actively fighting it, then that would be one thing. But he is not acting at all, even though he said he would.


And here, Obama is in a Damned If You Do, Damned If You Don't Situation.

Due to the clusterfuck that was Operation Iraqi Freedom- which drew heavily upon forces that were stationed in Afghanistan who were very, very close to completely exterminating the Taliban and spread American forces thin like Marmite, said Taliban was given a reprieve from extinction and built themselves back up to current state which is considerably formidable. That, coupled with questions about the legitimacy and integrity of Karzai's government means Obama faces two equally unpleasant outcomes.

Sending more troops in to help prop up the Karzai regime and keep the Taliban under wraps as best as possible is going to get Obama's supporters bitching at him about not pulling out fast enough.

On the other hand, if he does pull out with current state, chances are the Taliban are going to have a fair shot at overthrowing the current regime and re-establishing themselves. And if that happens, let's not kid ourselves. The Republican Noise Machine amongst others are going to use that as fuel for a massive spin that declares Obama a foreign policy failure, a terrorist-appeasing Chamberlain pussy who let the Evil Fundamentalists re-oppress women. And that flood of white noise of course is going to severely hamper his efforts in other areas, such as gay right, health care and the deficit.

Right now, Obama is the Dutch Kid with his finger in the dike, with everyone watching and bitching at him to pull out.


*sigh* Yeah... I know he's in one hell of a political position, and it sucks for everyone involved. I just really hate wars. <_<

Also, since when did the Republicans care about women?
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Postby Tekania » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:24 pm

Gauthier wrote:Right now, Obama is the Dutch Kid with his finger in the dike, with everyone watching and bitching at him to pull out.


I'm pretty sure the dike would not approve of Obama having his finger in her, and would certainly want him to pull out as well....
Such heroic nonsense!

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Postby Allbeama » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:29 pm

Derscon wrote:
Allbeama wrote:
Derscon wrote:
Allbeama wrote:
The Southron Nation wrote:
Allbeama wrote:
Skynyrd Nati0n wrote:Obama has been turning our country into a weak heartless harlemville. First, he shut down Guantanamo Bay and put evil minds of terrorists on American soil. Then, he keeps welfare going. Welfare is just a liberal scam that takes tax money from hard workin blue collar americans and gives it to people that are looking for a handout. KIll me if im conservative but obama being a retard instead of a president


Says the Guy Who Loves This Country So Much He Wears The Flag Of Those Who Once Sought To Tear It Into Pieces. ;) Taste the Irony Cake!Eat It!



we southroners never once sought to tear the country into pieces. we only wanted to be left alone. secession means to separate, bub. no different than what the colonies did to Britain before the War of Independence.


Separating would be harmful to the United States, don't you think, bub? I just find it funny that southern conservative types get all " Uhmurrica is thuh graytist damnd country there ever was, and If you don't think we outta put a boot in an Ayrabz ass you are a sissy libral tryin to destroy this nayshun!" and at the same time wave the flag of a faction opposed to the United States, and furthermore, that flag is also not scoring you any points, because of its connection to bigotry and terrorism as perpetrated by the KKK.


Perpetuated is probably a better word. The Klan didn't pop up until Reconstruction. <_<


That is irrelevant to the point as I made it. I am not saying that the Klan is involved in the civil war, merely adding to previous statements that I resent the flag of the Confederacy for reasons beyond secession. Mostly that I consider it to be on par with the Swastika.


Not that irrelevant. It's a cheap and dishonest tactic to say the southern succession and the War of Northern Aggression were only about slavery.


Have you been paying attention? I never said it was all about slavery, slavery was merely a catalyst in a conflict that was rooted in the vast economic and political disparity between the North and South. Secession was itself all that I was even talking about, and then I added on the racism driven terrorism which I admitted was a separate reason for my dislike of the Confederate flag.
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Postby New Kereptica » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:32 pm

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Gauthier wrote:Right now, Obama is the Dutch Kid with his finger in the dike, with everyone watching and bitching at him to pull out.


I'm pretty sure the dike would not approve of Obama having his finger in her, and would certainly want him to pull out as well....


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Postby Allbeama » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:32 pm

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Derscon wrote:
Allbeama wrote:
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Skynyrd Nati0n wrote:Obama has been turning our country into a weak heartless harlemville. First, he shut down Guantanamo Bay and put evil minds of terrorists on American soil. Then, he keeps welfare going. Welfare is just a liberal scam that takes tax money from hard workin blue collar americans and gives it to people that are looking for a handout. KIll me if im conservative but obama being a retard instead of a president


Says the Guy Who Loves This Country So Much He Wears The Flag Of Those Who Once Sought To Tear It Into Pieces. ;) Taste the Irony Cake!Eat It!



we southroners never once sought to tear the country into pieces. we only wanted to be left alone. secession means to separate, bub. no different than what the colonies did to Britain before the War of Independence.


Separating would be harmful to the United States, don't you think, bub? I just find it funny that southern conservative types get all " Uhmurrica is thuh graytist damnd country there ever was, and If you don't think we outta put a boot in an Ayrabz ass you are a sissy libral tryin to destroy this nayshun!" and at the same time wave the flag of a faction opposed to the United States, and furthermore, that flag is also not scoring you any points, because of its connection to bigotry and terrorism as perpetrated by the KKK.


Perpetuated is probably a better word. The Klan didn't pop up until Reconstruction. <_<


That is irrelevant to the point as I made it. I am not saying that the Klan is involved in the civil war, merely adding to previous statements that I resent the flag of the Confederacy for reasons beyond secession. Mostly that I consider it to be on par with the Swastika.


Not that irrelevant. It's a cheap and dishonest tactic to say the southern succession and the War of Northern Aggression were only about slavery.



thats illogical. comparing the southern flag to the swastika is simply outrageous. why not compare the USA flag with the swastika? the germans only killed 6 million jews. the USA killed tens of millions of native americans. whats the difference.

moreover, the KKK also flies the christian flag. if your a christian, are you therefore a racist? if im a racist for supporting the st. andrews cross b/c of the KKK, then i must also be a racist b/c the KKK are primarily deluded christians.


I also find the cross offensive, but for reasons that involve racism only to a minute extent. Unfortunately the US flag is being used to promote hate, but I wouldn't compare it to the swastika just yet. That said, I oppose the idea that our country is something perfect that we must idealize, the only proper course of action is to actually make this country a decent place to live in. The rampant Nationalism inherent in the opposition to Obama is far more frightening to me than anything Obama's administration is doing.
And if you want to know, I do hold the Christian cross responsible for all sorts of death and tyranny, so don't even think I have a whole lot of love for that symbol.
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Postby Sibirsky » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:34 pm

Ok, no policies. Personally.

Start with this
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Throw in his refusal to wear the flag pin until the inauguration. His "fundamental" change for America (or is that policy?). The fact that he picked out his college professors based on their Marxist beliefs. Connections to scum. Corruption. Current administration members that are scum. The fact that half his staff do not pay taxes. And throw this in for good measure from his campaign
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And of course don't forget the songs that little kids sing. Barack Hussein Obama... MMMM MMMMM MMMMM

That's why I dislike him personally.
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Postby Derscon » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:38 pm

Sibirsky wrote:Ok, no policies. Personally.

Start with this
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Throw in his refusal to wear the flag pin until the inauguration.


Oh god, a president that isn't a nationalist jerkoff. How terrible.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:39 pm

Sibirsky wrote:Ok, no policies. Personally.

Start with this
Image
Throw in his refusal to wear the flag pin until the inauguration. His "fundamental" change for America (or is that policy?). The fact that he picked out his college professors based on their Marxist beliefs. Connections to scum. Corruption. Current administration members that are scum. The fact that half his staff do not pay taxes. And throw this in for good measure from his campaign
Image
And of course don't forget the songs that little kids sing. Barack Hussein Obama... MMMM MMMMM MMMMM

That's why I dislike him personally.


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