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Bavin
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Postby Bavin » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:30 pm

New Kereptica wrote:
The Southron Nation wrote:
CIB EMPIRE wrote:Why do people hate Obama???
-snip-
fantastic!!


Troops in America? Are we Rome now? Are soldiers not allowed on American soil?

Also, it's spellt 'Southern'.

Also, its spelt spelt. :p
The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds.- Carl Sagan

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Postby RightLeaningChristians » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:30 pm

Bavin wrote:
RightLeaningChristians wrote:Mulattos are worse than Black Folks. Your what happens when people step over boundries.

You sir, are standing in the way of Human evolution. Please step aside, or you will receive your very own Darwin award.



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Postby CIB EMPIRE » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:30 pm

New Kereptica wrote:
The Southron Nation wrote:
CIB EMPIRE wrote:Why do people hate Obama???
Image



fantastic!!


Troops in America? Are we Rome now? Are soldiers not allowed on American soil?

Also, it's spellt 'Southern'.

You dont know the whole story, the troops have been stationed here because their is fear of civil unrest.
BTW we are similer to rome.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:30 pm

The awesomeness 1 wrote:
The awesomeness 1 wrote:the white house is supposed to be white, no offense to other people

I HATE BLACK PRESIDENTS, LOOKS LIKE SOME OF THE THE BLACK PEOPLE VOTED FOR HIM JUST BECAUSE HE IS BLACK

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Postby New Kereptica » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:31 pm

Bavin wrote:
New Kereptica wrote:
The Southron Nation wrote:
CIB EMPIRE wrote:Why do people hate Obama???
-snip-
fantastic!!


Troops in America? Are we Rome now? Are soldiers not allowed on American soil?

Also, it's spellt 'Southern'.

Also, its spelt spelt. :p

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelt

It's not.
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Postby The Southron Nation » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:31 pm

actually, "southern" is the direction. Southron is a people.
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Postby New Kereptica » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:33 pm

CIB EMPIRE wrote:
New Kereptica wrote:
The Southron Nation wrote:
CIB EMPIRE wrote:Why do people hate Obama???
Image



fantastic!!


Troops in America? Are we Rome now? Are soldiers not allowed on American soil?

Also, it's spellt 'Southern'.

You dont [sic] know the whole story, the troops have been stationed here because their [sic] is fear of civil unrest.
BTW we are similer [sic] to rome.

In what way?
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KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Umm hmm.... mind if I siggy that as a reminder to those who think that it is cool to shove their bat-shit crazy atheist beliefs on those of us who actually have a clue?

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Bluth Corporation wrote:No. A free market literally has zero bubbles.

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Postby CIB EMPIRE » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:34 pm

New Kereptica wrote:
CIB EMPIRE wrote:
New Kereptica wrote:
The Southron Nation wrote:
CIB EMPIRE wrote:Why do people hate Obama???
Image



fantastic!!


Troops in America? Are we Rome now? Are soldiers not allowed on American soil?

Also, it's spellt 'Southern'.

You dont [sic] know the whole story, the troops have been stationed here because their [sic] is fear of civil unrest.
BTW we are similer [sic] to rome.

In what way?


http://www.infowars.com/army-%E2%80%98s ... il-unrest/


A recent report produced by the U.S. Army War College’s Strategic Institute warns that the United States may experience massive civil unrest in the wake of a series of crises which it has termed “strategic shock.”

The report, titled Known Unknowns: Unconventional Strategic Shocks in Defense Strategy Development, also suggests that the military may have to be used to quell domestic disorder.

“Widespread civil violence inside the United States would force the defense establishment to reorient priorities in extremis to defend basic domestic order and human security,” the report, authored by [Ret.] Lt. Col. Nathan Freir, reads.

“Deliberate employment of weapons of mass destruction or other catastrophic capabilities, unforeseen economic collapse, loss of functioning political and legal order, purposeful domestic resistance or insurgency, pervasive public health emergencies, and catastrophic natural and human disasters are all paths to disruptive domestic shock.” it continues.

“An American government and defense establishment lulled into complacency by a long-secure domestic order would be forced to rapidly divest some or most external security commitments in order to address rapidly expanding human insecurity at home…”

“Already predisposed to defer to the primacy of civilian authorities in instances of domestic security and divest all but the most extreme demands in areas like civil support and consequence management, DoD might be forced by circumstances to put its broad resources at the disposal of civil authorities to contain and reverse violent threats to domestic tranquility. Under the most extreme circumstances, this might include use of military force against hostile groups inside the United States.” Lt. Col. Freir concludes.

See Pages 31-32 (PDF) for quoted sections.

Freir is a Senior Fellow in the International Security Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS). He joined the think tank in April 2008 after retiring from the U.S. Army after 20 years as a lieutenant colonel. In his role at CSIS he rubs shoulders with a whole host of globalist luminaries including Zbigniew Brzezinski, Henry Kissinger, Brent Scowcroft and Richard Armitage.

Echoing recent comments made by Pentagon advisors, along with other notable figures such as Colin Powell and Joe Biden, Freir also warns that the incoming Obama administration should prepare for a “first term crisis” that could act as a catalyst for such unrest.

“The current administration confronted a game-changing ’strategic shock’ inside its first eight months in office,” the report reads. “The next administration would be well-advised to expect the same during the course of its first term. Indeed, the odds are very high against any of the challenges routinely at the top of the traditional defense agenda triggering the next watershed inside DoD [Department of Defense].”


A d v e r t i s e m e n t

We have recently highlighted plans to station thousands more U.S. troops inside America for purposes of “domestic security” from September 2011, an expansion of Northcom’s militarization of the country in preparation for potential civil unrest following a total economic collapse or a mass terror attack.

“The U.S. military expects to have 20,000 uniformed troops inside the United States by 2011 trained to help state and local officials respond to a nuclear terrorist attack or other domestic catastrophe, according to Pentagon officials,” reported the Washington Post last month.

In a September 8 Army Times article, Northcom announced that the first wave of the troop deployment, which was put in place on October 1st at Fort Stewart and at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado Springs, would be aimed at tackling “civil unrest and crowd control”.

After a controversy arose surrounding the admissions made in the Army Times article, Northcom retracted the claim but conceded that both lethal and non-lethal weaponry traditionally used in crowd control and riot situations would still be used in the field.

The increasing militarization of America is part of a long term agenda to abolish Constitutional rule and establish a “military form of government,” following a large scale terror attack or similar disaster, as Tommy Franks, the former commander of the military’s Central Command, alluded to in a November 2003 Cigar Aficionado piece.

Franks outlined the scenario by which martial law would be put in place, saying, “It means the potential of a weapon of mass destruction and a terrorist, massive, casualty-producing event somewhere in the Western world – it may be in the United States of America – that causes our population to question our own Constitution and to begin to militarize our country in order to avoid a repeat of another mass, casualty-producing event. Which in fact, then begins to unravel the fabric of our Constitution. Two steps, very, very important.”

In the short term, the domestic deployment of troops is likely aimed at combating likely civil unrest that will ensue after a complete economic collapse followed by a devastating period of hyperinflation.

This warning was again echoed a few days ago in a leaked internal memo from Citibank.

“The world is not going back to normal after the magnitude of what they have done. When the dust settles this will either work, and the money they have pushed into the system will feed through into an inflation shock,” wrote Tom Fitzpatrick, Citibank’s chief technical strategist.

The memo predicts “depression, civil disorder and possibly wars” as a fallout from an economic collapse that many say is on the horizon.




Naturally, the claim that such troop deployments are merely to aid in disaster relief efforts is a thin veil aimed at distracting from the real goal. Should a real tragedy occur, volunteers and already existing civil aid organizations are fully capable of dealing with such events, as we witnessed on 9/11.

The military are primarily trained to kill people and break things, and their role during the Hurricane Katrina relief efforts was mainly focused on detaining people in sports stadiums, shooting alleged looters and seizing guns from wealthy home owners in the high and dry areas, while real recovery measures were left to volunteers and local state authorities.

The open admission that U.S. troops will be involved in law enforcement operations as well as potentially using non-lethal weapons against American citizens is a complete violation of the Posse Comitatus Act and the Insurrection Act, which substantially limit the powers of the federal government to use the military for law enforcement unless under precise and extreme circumstances.

Section 1385 of the Posse Comitatus Act states, “Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.”

Under the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, signed by President Bush on October 17, 2006, the law was changed to state, “The President may employ the armed forces to restore public order in any State of the United States the President determines hinders the execution of laws or deprives people of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law or opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.”

However, these changes were repealed in their entirety by HR 4986: National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008, reverting back to the original state of the Insurrection Act of 1807. Despite this repeal, President Bush attached a signing statement saying that he did not feel bound by the repeal. It remains to be seen whether President elect Obama will reverse Bush’s signing statement.

The original text of the Insurrection Act severely limits the power of the President to deploy troops within the United States.

For troops to be deployed, a condition has to exist that, “(1) So hinders the execution of the laws of that State, and of the United States within the State, that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted authorities of that State are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection; or (2) opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws. In any situation covered by clause (1), the State shall be considered to have denied the equal protection of the laws secured by the Constitution.”

Is the incoming Obama administration and Northcom waiting for such a scenario to unfold, an event that completely overwhelms state authorities, before unleashing the might of the U.S. Army against the American people?

[Ret.] Lt. Col. Freir’s Known Unknowns report addresses this specifically, stating:

“A whole host of long-standing defense conventions would be severely tested. Under these conditions and at their most violent extreme, civilian authorities, on advice of the defense establishment, would need to rapidly determine the parameters defining the legitimate use of military force inside the United States. Further still, the whole concept of conflict termination and/or transition to the primacy of civilian security institutions would be uncharted ground. DoD is already challenged by stabilization abroad. Imagine the challenges associated with doing so on a massive scale at home.”

The deployment of National Guard troops to aid law enforcement or for disaster relief purposes is legal under the authority of the governor of a state, but using active duty U.S. Army in law enforcement operations inside America absent the conditions described in the Insurrection Act is completely illegal.

The political left and right need to join forces and denounce this plan for what it is – another unconstitutional step towards the incremental implementation of martial law and the militarization of America
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Postby Bavin » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:34 pm

New Kereptica wrote:
CIB EMPIRE wrote:
New Kereptica wrote:
The Southron Nation wrote:
CIB EMPIRE wrote:Why do people hate Obama???
-snippythefail-



fantastic!!


Troops in America? Are we Rome now? Are soldiers not allowed on American soil?

Also, it's spellt 'Southern'.

You dont [sic] know the whole story, the troops have been stationed here because their [sic] is fear of civil unrest.
BTW we are similer [sic] to rome.

In what way?

Massive empire?
The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds.- Carl Sagan

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Postby Stabistan » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:34 pm

CIB EMPIRE wrote:
New Kereptica wrote:
The Southron Nation wrote:
CIB EMPIRE wrote:Why do people hate Obama???
Image



fantastic!!


Ahahah oh wow, what a crock of shit.

I don't agree with the bailouts, but they were pretty much necessary to keep the entire world economy from exploding.

As for the rest, the reason why it's still around is simple: He tries to repeal any of georgie's tyranny-with-a-patriotic-hat laws, everyone on the right starts whining about letting the terrorists win. That, and half of congress opposes him on every step.

The war in afghanistan is justified - I don't see why it's complaining about that. Iraq is another story. Torture is being phased out - he shut down guantanamo, for instance. The police state is your standard quackery but nutjobs, as is mandatory national service.
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Postby New Kereptica » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:35 pm

CIB EMPIRE wrote:
New Kereptica wrote:
CIB EMPIRE wrote:
New Kereptica wrote:
The Southron Nation wrote:
CIB EMPIRE wrote:Why do people hate Obama???
Image



fantastic!!


Troops in America? Are we Rome now? Are soldiers not allowed on American soil?

Also, it's spellt 'Southern'.

You dont [sic] know the whole story, the troops have been stationed here because their [sic] is fear of civil unrest.
BTW we are similer [sic] to rome.

In what way?


http://www.infowars.com/army-%E2%80%98s ... il-unrest/

Let me clarify: in what way is the US similar to Rome?
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Postby The Southron Nation » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:35 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
The Southron Nation wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
The Southron Nation wrote:if anyone should feel entitled to some pathetic sense of racial equality, its mulattos like myself. you know, the folks who really are blacker than the president.

If you have a black father and a white mother, how exactly are you "blacker" than Obama, who also has a black father and a white mother?


his father was kenyan. mine was american. makes me blacker.

How so? Are most Kenyans not black? :blink: That might come as a surprise to them...


you miss the point. Kenya is a country. Africa is not. and Obama's father is not American. which makes Obama Kenyan-American.
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Postby New Kereptica » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:36 pm

Bavin wrote:Massive empire?


Not very descriptive. A shitton of nations completely dissimilar to Rome were large empires.
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KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Umm hmm.... mind if I siggy that as a reminder to those who think that it is cool to shove their bat-shit crazy atheist beliefs on those of us who actually have a clue?

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JJ Place wrote:I have a few more pressing matters to attend to right now; I'll be back later this evening to continue my one-man against the world struggle.

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Postby CIB EMPIRE » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:37 pm

New Kereptica wrote:
CIB EMPIRE wrote:
New Kereptica wrote:
CIB EMPIRE wrote:
New Kereptica wrote:
The Southron Nation wrote:
CIB EMPIRE wrote:Why do people hate Obama???
Image



fantastic!!


Troops in America? Are we Rome now? Are soldiers not allowed on American soil?

Also, it's spellt 'Southern'.

You dont [sic] know the whole story, the troops have been stationed here because their [sic] is fear of civil unrest.
BTW we are similer [sic] to rome.

In what way?


http://www.infowars.com/army-%E2%80%98s ... il-unrest/


http://www.roanoke.com/editorials/radmacher/wb/128574
Let me clarify: in what way is the US similar to Rome?
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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:38 pm

The Southron Nation wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
The Southron Nation wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
The Southron Nation wrote:if anyone should feel entitled to some pathetic sense of racial equality, its mulattos like myself. you know, the folks who really are blacker than the president.

If you have a black father and a white mother, how exactly are you "blacker" than Obama, who also has a black father and a white mother?


his father was kenyan. mine was american. makes me blacker.

How so? Are most Kenyans not black? :blink: That might come as a surprise to them...


you miss the point. Kenya is a country. Africa is not. and Obama's father is not American. which makes Obama Kenyan-American.

So? You have yet to make any intelligent argument as to why being a black man from the U.S. is "blacker" than a black man from any other country.
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Postby Bavin » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:38 pm

New Kereptica wrote:
Bavin wrote:Massive empire?


Not very descriptive. A shitton of nations completely dissimilar to Rome were large empires.

Started out with an original-(ish) governmental idea? (Of course that means we relapse back into dictatorship soon :? )
The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds.- Carl Sagan

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Postby The Southron Nation » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:51 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
The Southron Nation wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
The Southron Nation wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
The Southron Nation wrote:if anyone should feel entitled to some pathetic sense of racial equality, its mulattos like myself. you know, the folks who really are blacker than the president.

If you have a black father and a white mother, how exactly are you "blacker" than Obama, who also has a black father and a white mother?


his father was kenyan. mine was american. makes me blacker.

How so? Are most Kenyans not black? :blink: That might come as a surprise to them...


you miss the point. Kenya is a country. Africa is not. and Obama's father is not American. which makes Obama Kenyan-American.

So? You have yet to make any intelligent argument as to why being a black man from the U.S. is "blacker" than a black man from any other country.


woooooooow.

look man. the term African American is intended to identify a person's country of origin.... not his ethnicity. the only Africans living in American are not considered African American, they are Nigerian American, Liberian American, etc etc. Africa is a continent, i remind you. not a country.


There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all.

This is just as true of the man who puts “native” before the hyphen as of the man who puts German or Irish or English or French before the hyphen. Americanism is a matter of the spirit and of the soul. Our allegiance must be purely to the United States. We must unsparingly condemn any man who holds any other allegiance.

But if he is heartily and singly loyal to this Republic, then no matter where he was born, he is just as good an American as any one else.
The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English- Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian- Americans, or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality than with the other citizens of the American Republic.

The men who do not become Americans and nothing else are hyphenated Americans; and there ought to be no room for them in this country. The man who calls himself an American citizen and who yet shows by his actions that he is primarily the citizen of a foreign land, plays a thoroughly mischievous part in the life of our body politic. He has no place here; and the sooner he returns to the land to which he feels his real heart-allegiance, the better it will be for every good American.


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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:54 pm

The Southron Nation wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
The Southron Nation wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
The Southron Nation wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
The Southron Nation wrote:if anyone should feel entitled to some pathetic sense of racial equality, its mulattos like myself. you know, the folks who really are blacker than the president.

If you have a black father and a white mother, how exactly are you "blacker" than Obama, who also has a black father and a white mother?


his father was kenyan. mine was american. makes me blacker.

How so? Are most Kenyans not black? :blink: That might come as a surprise to them...


you miss the point. Kenya is a country. Africa is not. and Obama's father is not American. which makes Obama Kenyan-American.

So? You have yet to make any intelligent argument as to why being a black man from the U.S. is "blacker" than a black man from any other country.


woooooooow.

look man. the term African American is intended to identify a person's country of origin.... not his ethnicity. the only Africans living in American are not considered African American, they are Nigerian American, Liberian American, etc etc. Africa is a continent, i remind you. not a country.


There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all.

This is just as true of the man who puts “native” before the hyphen as of the man who puts German or Irish or English or French before the hyphen. Americanism is a matter of the spirit and of the soul. Our allegiance must be purely to the United States. We must unsparingly condemn any man who holds any other allegiance.

But if he is heartily and singly loyal to this Republic, then no matter where he was born, he is just as good an American as any one else.
The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English- Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian- Americans, or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality than with the other citizens of the American Republic.

The men who do not become Americans and nothing else are hyphenated Americans; and there ought to be no room for them in this country. The man who calls himself an American citizen and who yet shows by his actions that he is primarily the citizen of a foreign land, plays a thoroughly mischievous part in the life of our body politic. He has no place here; and the sooner he returns to the land to which he feels his real heart-allegiance, the better it will be for every good American.


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And you still haven't answered the question...

Why is a black man from the U.S. "blacker" than a black man from any other country?
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Postby Takaram » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:55 pm

Dyakovo wrote:<snip>
And you still haven't answered the question...

Why is a black man from the U.S. "blacker" than a black man from any other country?


No idea? Physically, people from Africa tend to be darker on average.

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Postby The Southron Nation » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:59 pm

Dyakovo wrote:*snip*
And you still haven't answered the question...

Why is a black man from the U.S. "blacker" than a black man from any other country?


okay, maybe im approaching this from the wrong direction with you. im attempting to explain the definition of a Black American through a cultural lens. an African American is a black man from africa, yes, but the cultures are incredibly different. black culture in America is easily recognizable as not African. Charlize Theron is african. she speaks Afrikaans. would she be considered a caucasian American? nope. she is African American. or to be more specific, South African American. not b/c of her race. but b/c of where she is from and what culture she identifies with.

does this help?
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Postby Californian Mod Haters » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:59 pm

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Zukaya wrote:I only think we could have chosen our president based on what's best for our country, not on breaking streaks and/or records


It's what the people want.

That, and someone who tolerates rap, and plays basketball, and fist bumps, and...

...You foolish Americans!

You elected an agent of sooociiiety into the position of Leader of the Free World--arguably the most prominent and powerful position a single man can gain?!

The other choice was even worse.


Are you mad man!? That old geezer wouldn't know what soociiiety was! Let alone would he even dare be a part of it, he was the perfect candidate to combat sooociiiety.

Sure, he was bad with the Internet, but so was, and to this day is, Joe Biden, and he's in a seat of great power thanks to the general population of America.

I was talking about Sarah Palin. She'd've made sooociiiety even worse being a sooociiiety extremist.


True, she is an agent. A prominent one at that.

It was a hard decision, but Obama's potency was just too high, and Biden's lack of Internet comprehension just added to it.

Both were horrid choices, but McCain was far too old to dabble too deep into the clutches of sooociiiety.

Then the old man dies...

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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:03 pm

The Southron Nation wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:*snip*
And you still haven't answered the question...

Why is a black man from the U.S. "blacker" than a black man from any other country?


okay, maybe im approaching this from the wrong direction with you. im attempting to explain the definition of a Black American through a cultural lens. an African American is a black man from africa, yes, but the cultures are incredibly different. black culture in America is easily recognizable as not African. Charlize Theron is african. she speaks Afrikaans. would she be considered a caucasian American? nope. she is African American. or to be more specific, South African American. not b/c of her race. but b/c of where she is from and what culture she identifies with.

does this help?

No
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Postby Bunyippie » Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:05 pm

The Southron Nation wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
The Southron Nation wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
The Southron Nation wrote:if anyone should feel entitled to some pathetic sense of racial equality, its mulattos like myself. you know, the folks who really are blacker than the president.

If you have a black father and a white mother, how exactly are you "blacker" than Obama, who also has a black father and a white mother?


his father was kenyan. mine was american. makes me blacker.

How so? Are most Kenyans not black? :blink: That might come as a surprise to them...


you miss the point. Kenya is a country. Africa is not. and Obama's father is not American. which makes Obama Kenyan-American.

no, it just makes him american. if anything, he is hawiian american, which just sounds retarded.
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Postby The Southron Nation » Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:15 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
The Southron Nation wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:*snip*
And you still haven't answered the question...

Why is a black man from the U.S. "blacker" than a black man from any other country?


okay, maybe im approaching this from the wrong direction with you. im attempting to explain the definition of a Black American through a cultural lens. an African American is a black man from africa, yes, but the cultures are incredibly different. black culture in America is easily recognizable as not African. Charlize Theron is african. she speaks Afrikaans. would she be considered a caucasian American? nope. she is African American. or to be more specific, South African American. not b/c of her race. but b/c of where she is from and what culture she identifies with.

does this help?

No


i wonder if you are deliberately being obtuse? if not, then we cannot continue this conversation. sorry i failed to explain myself to you.
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