To All Who Hate Obama Personaly

[Fubared States]

no?

[Blouman Empire]

What do you have against Obama?

He borrowed $100 off me and has never paid it back that's why I hate him personally.

Now as to why people hate Obama's policies which will lead many to say I hate Obama (doesn't mean it is personal) that is a different kettle of fish

[Grave_n_idle]

Freedom and justice are synonymous. One cannot exist without the other.

So, finding someone guilty of a crime, and then sentencing them... is inherently unjust?

Of course not. The criminal impinged on the freedom of others by committing a crime, so the justice is administered to him -- as a warning to others of what they will suffer if they try to deny others their freedom.

After all, that's all crime is, in the end -- people trying to take away the freedom and rights of other people. That's why all gun control laws, for instance, are inherently criminal.

You said that freedom and justice are synonymous. You said one can't exist without the other.

So - imprisoning someone (and thus, limiting their freedom) is inherently unjust.

Or you were just peddling hollow rhetoric that sounds convincing until you actually examine it. That's the other option.

[Fubared States]

What do you have against Obama?

He borrowed $100 off me and has never paid it back that's why I hate him personally.

Now as to why people hate Obama's policies which will lead many to say I hate Obama (doesn't mean it is personal) that is a different kettle of fish

You're not assuming that I ate the fish raw are you?

[Mimic]

Freedom and justice are synonymous. One cannot exist without the other.

So, finding someone guilty of a crime, and then sentencing them... is inherently unjust?

Of course not. The criminal impinged on the freedom of others by committing a crime, so the justice is administered to him -- as a warning to others of what they will suffer if they try to deny others their freedom.

After all, that's all crime is, in the end -- people trying to take away the freedom and rights of other people. That's why all gun control laws, for instance, are inherently criminal.

You said that freedom and justice are synonymous. You said one can't exist without the other.

So - imprisoning someone (and thus, limiting their freedom) is inherently unjust.

Not really. Since they limited the freedom of others, it's entirely just to limit theirs. Balance must be maintained.

Of course, I do entirely support penalties that will attempt to return to the victim what freedoms they lost. For instance, confiscating a criminal's property and giving it to the victim.

Or you were just peddling hollow rhetoric that sounds convincing until you actually examine it. That's the other option.

Why would I do such a thing in the hallowed halls of serious debate known as NSG?

[Fubared States]

Freedom and justice are synonymous. One cannot exist without the other.

So, finding someone guilty of a crime, and then sentencing them... is inherently unjust?

Of course not. The criminal impinged on the freedom of others by committing a crime, so the justice is administered to him -- as a warning to others of what they will suffer if they try to deny others their freedom.

After all, that's all crime is, in the end -- people trying to take away the freedom and rights of other people. That's why all gun control laws, for instance, are inherently criminal.

You said that freedom and justice are synonymous. You said one can't exist without the other.

So - imprisoning someone (and thus, limiting their freedom) is inherently unjust.

Or you were just peddling hollow rhetoric that sounds convincing until you actually examine it. That's the other option.

so to be a just person i must be a criminal?

[Daemonicai]

I don't hate him. I hate the fact that people are stupid enough to complain about what he said he was going to do all along. Vote for Change. You wanted to vote for that, now you idiots Changed your mind. I really feel annoyed about the incompetence of many voters of that country. Eight Years of Bush really shows how much they need to wake up.

[Grave_n_idle]

Not really. Since they limited the freedom of others, it's entirely just to limit theirs.

Exactly. Freedom and justice are not synonymous. The one can totally exist without the other and - indeed - often must.

[Blouman Empire]

What do you have against Obama?

He borrowed $100 off me and has never paid it back that's why I hate him personally.

Now as to why people hate Obama's policies which will lead many to say I hate Obama (doesn't mean it is personal) that is a different kettle of fish

You're not assuming that I ate the fish raw are you?

Que?

[Great Arya]

I don't have anything against Obama personally, because I see the destruction of America as a great opportunity to build something better from its ruins.

[The Southron Nation]

To put it simply in the Confederate States I'd be a second class citizen...enough reason for me to spy on them if it was still around.

please, there are many of us who claim to be second class citizens in the USA now. it makes no amount of anything to claim this nonsense. so long as there are blacks who feel entitled to something, there will always be "second class" citizens. i grew up in the impoverished south. my mother was a single woman raising a mixed child. my father is black, and my mother is white. i have NEVER experienced racism from a single white person of any merit. the 5 white racists ive met were the archetype of stupidity, "i hate ni**ers caws they gots them big ole noses that breathes all my air!" nearly every black i meet demands that i prove my race. which makes them racist against people like me. so if anyone should feel entitled to some pathetic sense of racial equality, its mulattos like myself. you know, the folks who really are blacker than the president.

fact is that no one is a second class citizen unless you think of yourself as such. it is evident that you do. i don't.

i may have had enslaved ancestors, but that is still a part of my past. i haven't always made decisions im proud of, but even those decisions make me who i am. the actions of my ancestors may indeed be unpleasant to think about for some, but they still make me who i am. and you and any other black in america who they are. get over it. seriously. it happened. it ended. and you never experienced anything like it. neither did i. i have absolutely no right to consider myself entitled to any sort of solidarity with any of the slaves. and neither do you. my ancestors fought and died for the Confederacy. both sets of my ancestors did. and both sets were slaves. my mothers white ancestors were irish indentured servants. and i am proud of that fact. does that make me a racist?

im sorry if this is inflammatory. i really am. but this kind of talk is truly upsetting to me.

i dislike Obama for reasons beyond race. and you should approve of him for the same reasons. sorry for the threadjack.

[Bavin]

Freedom and justice are synonymous. One cannot exist without the other.

So, finding someone guilty of a crime, and then sentencing them... is inherently unjust?

Of course not. The criminal impinged on the freedom of others by committing a crime, so the justice is administered to him -- as a warning to others of what they will suffer if they try to deny others their freedom.

After all, that's all crime is, in the end -- people trying to take away the freedom and rights of other people. That's why all gun control laws, for instance, are inherently criminal.

But won't the guns enable them to take away the rights of others?

[Dyakovo]

if anyone should feel entitled to some pathetic sense of racial equality, its mulattos like myself. you know, the folks who really are blacker than the president.

If you have a black father and a white mother, how exactly are you "blacker" than Obama, who also has a black father and a white mother?

[The awesomeness 1]

the white house is supposed to be white, no offense to other people

I don't think he's repainted.

HE'S A TOTAL NOOB, HE WENT AND PAINTED HIM SELF LIKE MICHAEL JASKASS OOPS JACKSON

[The Southron Nation]

if anyone should feel entitled to some pathetic sense of racial equality, its mulattos like myself. you know, the folks who really are blacker than the president.

If you have a black father and a white mother, how exactly are you "blacker" than Obama, who also has a black father and a white mother?

his father was kenyan. mine was american. makes me blacker.

[The Southron Nation]

I don't have anything against Obama personally, because I see the destruction of America as a great opportunity to build something better from its ruins.

you may be on to something there.

[Bavin]

if anyone should feel entitled to some pathetic sense of racial equality, its mulattos like myself. you know, the folks who really are blacker than the president.

If you have a black father and a white mother, how exactly are you "blacker" than Obama, who also has a black father and a white mother?

his father was kenyan. mine was american. makes me blacker.

Wouldn't being from Africa make him blacker!?

[RightLeaningChristians]

Mulattos are worse than Black Folks. Your what happens when people step over boundries.

[The awesomeness 1]

the white house is supposed to be white, no offense to other people

I HATE BLACK PRESIDENTS, LOOKS LIKE SOME OF THE THE BLACK PEOPLE VOTED FOR HIM JUST BECAUSE HE IS BLACK

[Bavin]

Mulattos are worse than Black Folks. Your what happens when people step over boundries.

You sir, are standing in the way of Human evolution. Please step aside, or you will receive your very own Darwin award.

[CIB EMPIRE]

Why do people hate Obama???

[The Southron Nation]

if anyone should feel entitled to some pathetic sense of racial equality, its mulattos like myself. you know, the folks who really are blacker than the president.

If you have a black father and a white mother, how exactly are you "blacker" than Obama, who also has a black father and a white mother?

his father was kenyan. mine was american. makes me blacker.

Wouldn't being from Africa make him blacker!?

haha!

not really. it makes him African-er(?). when you live in America, and your skin is dark like you're from Africa, and you were born in America, then you are black. not African-American. period. any "African-American" who wishes to go to Africa will find that he is nothing but a black American in Africa.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_KKyw8V-l0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDR27rfe1dg

[The Southron Nation]

Why do people hate Obama???

fantastic!!

[New Kereptica]

Why do people hate Obama???

fantastic!!

Troops in America? Are we Rome now? Are soldiers not allowed on American soil?

Also, it's spellt 'Southern'.

[Dyakovo]

if anyone should feel entitled to some pathetic sense of racial equality, its mulattos like myself. you know, the folks who really are blacker than the president.

If you have a black father and a white mother, how exactly are you "blacker" than Obama, who also has a black father and a white mother?

his father was kenyan. mine was american. makes me blacker.

How so? Are most Kenyans not black? That might come as a surprise to them...