Will the British Government ever learn?

[Napkiraly]

The government will go for the trifecta. Scrounger foreigners causing bad weather with their evil foreigner magik caused the economy to not recover.

Seems legit. Does this mean if we do "Economic recovery dances" the economy will get better?

No. Because my left wing foreigner arse will use my evil magik to further erode the UK economy.

[Farnhamia]

If you look at other countries like Greece, Spain and Cyprus then we're doing brilliantly, but notice this, they didn't have austerity until the last minute and now look. Indeed, Austerity isn't brilliant, but It's better than what's happening with those countries...

Austerity in the face of a failing economy is, for want of a better word, stupid. Just look at how a flawed study on the relationship between debt and GDP has contributed to keeping the recovery soft.

[Napkiraly]

I've always wondered why governments don't admit they done goofed more often. I'd actually be more willing to give them another go if they admitted mistakes and had a plan on what they'd do differently.

Admitting you fucked up is hard enough as an average person, if your entire political career rests upon whether or not you fuck up, it's even harder to admit you fucked up.

Considering how a lot of MP's that have fucked up that are still MP's, they don't have that much to worry about.

[Urumgard]

It's actually mainly because they've inherited a mess which was left by the previous Labour government. Come on guys!

Everything can be blamed on Edward Heath. Everything bad that has ever happened after or indeed before the Heath Premiership.

This makes sense. Definitely.

[Democratic Koyro]

Everything can be blamed on Edward Heath. Everything bad that has ever happened after or indeed before the Heath Premiership.

This makes sense. Definitely.

You know World War 2? You think it was caused by Hitler? Wrong. Edward Heath is responsible. Think that rats are too blame for the bubonic plague? nope. Heath again.

[Churchilland]

If you look at other countries like Greece, Spain and Cyprus then we're doing brilliantly, but notice this, they didn't have austerity until the last minute and now look. Indeed, Austerity isn't brilliant, but It's better than what's happening with those countries...

Austerity in the face of a failing economy is, for want of a better word, stupid. Just look at how a flawed study on the relationship between debt and GDP has contributed to keeping the recovery soft.

And is there an alternative that works, may I add...

[Farnhamia]

Austerity in the face of a failing economy is, for want of a better word, stupid. Just look at how a flawed study on the relationship between debt and GDP has contributed to keeping the recovery soft.

And is there an alternative that works, may I add...

An alternative to austerity? Why ... what could that be?

[Napkiraly]

Austerity in the face of a failing economy is, for want of a better word, stupid. Just look at how a flawed study on the relationship between debt and GDP has contributed to keeping the recovery soft.

And is there an alternative that works, may I add...

Killing the poor won't work.

[Chestaan]

If you look at other countries like Greece, Spain and Cyprus then we're doing brilliantly, but notice this, they didn't have austerity until the last minute and now look. Indeed, Austerity isn't brilliant, but It's better than what's happening with those countries...

Austerity in the face of a failing economy is, for want of a better word, stupid. Just look at how a flawed study on the relationship between debt and GDP has contributed to keeping the recovery soft.

Especially in the Uk's case as their debt isn't even that bad. The austerity policies of nations such as the UK that are not that bad off is hurting the chances of recovery of nations like Spain and Portugal who are actually in great trouble. When the UK implements austerity it causes less to be imported thus making the periphery economies even worse off.

[Democratic Koyro]

And is there an alternative that works, may I add...

Killing the poor won't work.

What if you force them to work 18 hour days in the cotton mills? Along with the children whose parents can't afford to send them to school and the elderly who can't afford to retire.

[Farnhamia]

Austerity in the face of a failing economy is, for want of a better word, stupid. Just look at how a flawed study on the relationship between debt and GDP has contributed to keeping the recovery soft.

Especially in the Uk's case as their debt isn't even that bad. The austerity policies of nations such as the UK that are not that bad off is hurting the chances of recovery of nations like Spain and Portugal who are actually in great trouble. When the UK implements austerity it causes less to be imported thus making the periphery economies even worse off.

Damn you, global economy!

[Cosara]

Killing the poor won't work.

What if you force them to work 18 hour days in the cotton mills? Along with the children whose parents can't afford to send them to school and the elderly who can't afford to retire.

Hitler did exactly that to drive down unemployment rates.

[Farnhamia]

What if you force them to work 18 hour days in the cotton mills? Along with the children whose parents can't afford to send them to school and the elderly who can't afford to retire.

Hitler did exactly that to drive down unemployment rates.

And we have a Godwin!

[Cottesmore]

[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/nov/20/scrounger-stigyma-poor-people-benefits]I thought we were putting all of the blame on the scroungers now?[/url]

The government will go for the trifecta. Scrounger foreigners causing bad weather with their evil foreigner magik caused the economy to not recover.

Hmm, failing economy, inflation, why don't we blame this whole mess on the Jews scroungers!

[Quintium]

The same thing's essentially happening here. We have a premier who keeps saying we should spend more money in order to get the economy going, but leaves us with absolutely nothing after taxes - which are, by the way, rising again this year - and passes austerity measures that damage businesses, schools, universities, hospitals and a lot more. It seems a lot of countries in Europe have become vessels adrift between complete collapse and feigned recovery.

[Napkiraly]

Killing the poor won't work.

What if you force them to work 18 hour days in the cotton mills? Along with the children whose parents can't afford to send them to school and the elderly who can't afford to retire.

They are working on that currently are they not?

[Farnhamia]

The same thing's essentially happening here. We have a premier who keeps saying we should spend more money in order to get the economy going, but leaves us with absolutely nothing after taxes - which are, by the way, rising again this year - and passes austerity measures that damage businesses, schools, universities, hospitals and a lot more. It seems a lot of countries in Europe have become vessels adrift between complete collapse and feigned recovery.

He seems to have missed the part where the government spends money, which employs people, who can then go out and ... oh, never mind.

[Eoghania]

No. And in response to the topic, rather than the general case - No. Osborne really doesn't understand how to run an economy. Or, indeed, anything more than an egg and spoon race.

[Cosara]

Hitler did exactly that to drive down unemployment rates.

And we have a Godwin!

In only 2 pages.

[Churchilland]

And is there an alternative that works, may I add...

Killing the poor won't work.

Neither will spending money that we don't have or taxing businesses which will, eventually -with a punch of salt- help the economy. Basically there is no good way out of this, we have the austerity route, we just have to put up with it, It's not a nice route, but that's what up top have decided, if we went the other way, we'll be pointing out the flaws of that system. Basically we're all in for a bumpy ride that is probably out of the control of anyone in Westminster, but in the hands of the City and Canary Wharf (no, I'm not saying banks alone will sort this out, but its symbolic)

[Mike the Progressive]

And we have a Godwin!

In only 2 pages.

I always get a kick out of how liberally people throw out Godwin, straw man or the other useless "I'm so full of myself, *snarky, snarky* I'm not even going to argue" when they argue...

[Napkiraly]

No. And in response to the topic, rather than the general case - No. Osborne really doesn't understand how to run an economy. Or, indeed, anything more than an egg and spoon race.

Still under qualified even for that.

[Farnhamia]

In only 2 pages.

I always get a kick out of how liberally people throw out Godwin, straw man or the other useless "I'm so full of myself, *snarky, snarky* I'm not even going to argue" when they argue...

Calling a Godwin is a way of saying the post has posted an empty post. A one-line reference to Hitler in a thread on the modern British economy is empty. *snarky snarky*

[Eoghania]

No. And in response to the topic, rather than the general case - No. Osborne really doesn't understand how to run an economy. Or, indeed, anything more than an egg and spoon race.

Still under qualified even for that.

Well, quite. But he does at least understand how it's run. He just isn't very good at it. Clegg, on the other hand, is increasingly proficient with his Etch-a-sketch.

[Napkiraly]

Still under qualified even for that.

Well, quite. But he does at least understand how it's run. He just isn't very good at it. Clegg, on the other hand, is increasingly proficient with his Etch-a-sketch.

It's not hard to understand how an egg and spoon race is run, he just shouldn't participate.