Child Discipline

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

How the fuck is having children a duty? No. Having children is a responsibility and you do not know how to do it.

Nobody knows how to be a parent until they are on the spot, just to be clear.

Some people do, thanks so much.

[Imsogone]

Nobody knows how to be a parent until they are on the spot, just to be clear.

Some people do, thanks so much.

Sometimes all we need is a fine example of what not to do.

[Zweite Alaje]

Someone is a pessimist. Why would you assume I'm lying?



Children shouldn't have a "voice" in the same sense as adults, that's why we have parents.


Children rarely have points worth listening to.

Never become a parent or teacher. You are bad at it.

Too late, I've already been a tutor for children, they love me.

Children rarely have points worth listening to.

Absolute and utter bullshit. Most parents who say this had their hypocrisy or some stupid rule challenged, and then when they realized that the kid was right, decided to shut them up by proclaiming their over lordship.

The only way to tell a kid why a rule is in place, is to tell him or her why the their objection is wrong, or if it isn't, why there needs to be the rule anyway.

And...most of their objections are drivel, hence my point.

Someone is a pessimist. Why would you assume I'm lying?

Because your claim was bullshit.

I swear, the world wouldn't be right if we agreed on something.

[Mavorpen]

I swear, the world wouldn't be right if we agreed on something.

It has nothing with us agreeing, it has everything to do with you cannot source your bullshit claim.

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

Never become a parent or teacher. You are bad at it.

Too late, I've already been a tutor for children, they love me.

Absolute and utter bullshit. Most parents who say this had their hypocrisy or some stupid rule challenged, and then when they realized that the kid was right, decided to shut them up by proclaiming their over lordship.

The only way to tell a kid why a rule is in place, is to tell him or her why the their objection is wrong, or if it isn't, why there needs to be the rule anyway.

And...most of their objections are drivel, hence my point.

Because your claim was bullshit.

I swear, the world wouldn't be right if we agreed on something.

Hahahahah it's cute that you think being a tutor makes you good or right.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Well for me, explanations made me realize why things were how they were.

Young kids will suffice or I say so, but, say, ten year olds can have valid complaints, and can actually help you parent them.

Like I said, sometimes it is necessary. Not all the time though.

And yes, ten year olds can have valid complaints, and we should listen to them as parents. However, discipline is still something that needs to be enforced at home and good morals in an absolute manner, if the children ask, you give them an explanation why this is so.

I don't plan to act authoritarian with my kids though, I think I can be a better parent than my dad is, but I am just saying sometimes being authoritarian is necessary, it depends on the situation.

[Samuraikoku]

Too late, I've already been a tutor for children, they love me.

Fairly certain you can't belt them.

[Imsogone]

Never become a parent or teacher. You are bad at it.

Too late, I've already been a tutor for children, they love me.

Absolute and utter bullshit. Most parents who say this had their hypocrisy or some stupid rule challenged, and then when they realized that the kid was right, decided to shut them up by proclaiming their over lordship.

The only way to tell a kid why a rule is in place, is to tell him or her why the their objection is wrong, or if it isn't, why there needs to be the rule anyway.

And...most of their objections are drivel, hence my point.

Because your claim was bullshit.

I swear, the world wouldn't be right if we agreed on something.

Because you'll smack them if they don't?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Nobody knows how to be a parent until they are on the spot, just to be clear.

Some people do, thanks so much.

And how would that person know if they have never had a child 24/7 at their care?

One thing is being a teacher or a tutor, another different thing is being a parent. Don't confuse the two, please.

[Vazdania]

How many of you here believe that the best way to discipline kids is thru beating? and Why / Why Not?

Just a healthy opinion. No need to be harsh.

I disagree with violating a child's bodily sovereignty, therefore I disagree with 'beatings.'

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

Some people do, thanks so much.

And how would that person know if they have never had a child 24/7 at their care?

Using common sense.
Learning about the needs of a child.
Not beating them.

[Zweite Alaje]

I swear, the world wouldn't be right if we agreed on something.

It has nothing with us agreeing, it has everything to do with you cannot source your bullshit claim.

And...you win, I couldn't find a suitable source for my claim.

Too late, I've already been a tutor for children, they love me.



And...most of their objections are drivel, hence my point.


I swear, the world wouldn't be right if we agreed on something.

Hahahahah it's cute that you think being a tutor makes you good or right.

It does, I can teach children. I've done it before.

Too late, I've already been a tutor for children, they love me.

Fairly certain you can't belt them.

I wouldn't have to, I can keep their attention by making the subject(s) interesting.

[Samuraikoku]

I wouldn't have to, I can keep their attention by making the subject(s) interesting.

So why not use an approach of that kind towards your own kids?

See how easy it is if you try?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

How many of you here believe that the best way to discipline kids is thru beating? and Why / Why Not?

Just a healthy opinion. No need to be harsh.

I disagree with violating a child's bodily sovereignty, therefore I disagree with 'beatings.'

I disagree with beatings because they teach them nothing. It just makes them more resilient to beatings and you have to increase the amount of pain each and every time, which is not right and again, it teaches nothing to the child.

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

It has nothing with us agreeing, it has everything to do with you cannot source your bullshit claim.

And...you win, I couldn't find a suitable source for my claim.

Hahahahah it's cute that you think being a tutor makes you good or right.

It does, I can teach children. I've done it before.

Fairly certain you can't belt them.

I wouldn't have to, I can keep their attention by making the subject(s) interesting.

Teaching them math =/= being a good parent.

[Zweite Alaje]

I wouldn't have to, I can keep their attention by making the subject(s) interesting.

So why not use an approach of that kind towards your own kids?

See how easy it is if you try?

Disciplining your own child is different than teaching a school subject.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

And how would that person know if they have never had a child 24/7 at their care?

Using common sense.
Learning about the needs of a child.
Not beating them.

And when did I ever said I agree to BEATING them?!

I just said parents sometimes have to be authoritarian, and that a person doesn't know how to be a parent until they are on the spot, but I have never said parents should beat their children or that I agree to it, as I pretty much disagree to beatings as they teach nothing to the child.

You can claim common sense all you want, but common sense only gets you so far. Sometimes you have to make decisions the child will not agree on, or that he'll get upset at you because you won't let them do what they want. And this is perfectly normal and not barbaric either.

[Liriena]

Violence brings violence, the correct method is tons of patience and long sensere talks with your kids.

Fucking THIS.

Physical punishment didn't help me when I was younger. In fact, it only made everything worse. A truly good parent doesn't need to beat his/her child to teach a lesson.

[Continentalia]

Submission to authority breeds more submission to authority.

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

So why not use an approach of that kind towards your own kids?

See how easy it is if you try?

Disciplining your own child is different than teaching a school subject.

Then why do you think you'll make a good parent?

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

Using common sense.
Learning about the needs of a child.
Not beating them.

And when did I ever said I agree to BEATING them?!

I just said parents sometimes have to be authoritarian, and that a person doesn't know how to be a parent until they are on the spot, but I have never said parents should beat their children or that I agree to it, as I pretty much disagree to beatings as they teach nothing to the child.

You can claim common sense all you want, but common sense only gets you so far. Sometimes you have to make decisions the child will not agree on, or that he'll get upset at you because you won't let them do what they want. And this is perfectly normal and not barbaric either.

No, it's not, but you still have to listen to them and explain why they're wrong. And being "authoritarian" about it isn't the way to go either.

[Samuraikoku]

Disciplining your own child is different than teaching a school subject.

Fairly certain you can't belt kids in either discipline.

[Zweite Alaje]

Disciplining your own child is different than teaching a school subject.

Then why do you think you'll make a good parent?

I don't. You said I shouldn't become a teacher.

Disciplining your own child is different than teaching a school subject.

Fairly certain you can't belt kids in either discipline.

Not in tutoring, that's other people's kids, it's the parents' job to discipline them not mine.

Submission to authority breeds more submission to authority.

Not necessarily, I was raised in a household with a clear hierarchy. Yet, I'm not extremely submissive, and I can be outright rebellious if there is need for it.

[Samuraikoku]

Not in tutoring, that's other people's kids, it's the parents' job to discipline them not mine.

I fear CPS might have an opinion on your way to discipline coming by way of a belt.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

No, it's not, but you still have to listen to them and explain why they're wrong. And being "authoritarian" about it isn't the way to go either.

I agree being authoritarian isn't the best method, but sometimes it's a necessary evil to keep some order.

I agree you should give an explanation whenever you can, but I personally would not tolerate being questioned by my own children. I would listen to their concerns, but I would not have them questioning my authority as their father, same as I would not tolerate them questioning their mother's authority on them.