Former Racists

[Dictatorship Of Serdaristan]

indiscriminate holocaust on palestinians.

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How about I move into your house and make your family live in the basement, and if any of you ever make any noise or complain I murder one of your family members in front of you? That is Palestine-Israel relations for you.

And no, I do not think Chechnya is "90% terrorists or something", but when you see a teenage Russian conscript slowly having his throat cut with a dull knife, by a laughing group of Chechens, all the while he is choking in his own blood and screaming for his mother, you will understand why I do not like Chechens.

When a group of Spetsnaz operatives caught up with the Chechens who did that, you better believe they paid for it.

[Absurdity]

I user to be distrustful of Polish people, but after meeting some and temporarily working with one, I quite like them now!

You "quite like" Poles after meeting a few? That's just silly. Liking an entire race is just as ridiculous as hating one.

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How about I move into your house and make your family live in the basement, and if any of you ever make any noise or complain I murder one of your family members in front of you? That is Palestine-Israel relations for you.

So, in short, you know absolutely nothing about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict? Thanks for clarifying.

[Person012345]

It's more like If your house gets reappropriated by someone, you think illegitimately, then given to someone else, but you're allowed to keep the basement. Then every so often one of your family members murders one of the new owners and the new owners start getting pissed off by this and start encroaching on your basement and killing your family members.

Of course the analogy is shit but whatever.

[Absurdity]

Certainly better than his.

[Mushet]

Meh I was kinda in like 9th grade, well I had white friends but I would still be blaming white people for the genocide and everything, then I guess I grew out of it, history is very complex and this mentality of mighty whitey taking over the world comes from the Eurocentric education system

[Giant Tank Factory]

Im not a racist in the thought of the colour and the skin, more that people like gypsies forexample, not all gypsies but many, steal and rob, and get aid from the goverment that they dont even need. I lived in both Denmark and Serbia, and the problem is the same there.

Guilty. I used to be racist towards the gypsy/irish traveller minority here in the UK after some bad experiences when the moved into my local park for a couple of months.
I changed a bit when I actually did a bit of research (to fond more bad things to hate them for) and found that they are actually getting swindled and robbed all the time because people think "its alright to cheat/rob a pikey" and they are much more likely to be victims of crime than commiters, and a lot of the fear is unfounded.

I will admit I still find aspects of thier culture/lifestyle appaling.

[Dictatorship Of Serdaristan]

It's more like If your house gets reappropriated by someone, you think illegitimately, then given to someone else, but you're allowed to keep the basement. Then every so often one of your family members murders one of the new owners and the new owners start getting pissed off by this and start encroaching on your basement and killing your family members.

Of course the analogy is shit but whatever.

So Palestinians firing unguided rockets with no warheads automatically justifies bulldozing homes, airstrikes on children, walling off sections of the country and refusing passage to people who haven't done anything wrong, shooting Muslims for praying, running over Americans with bulldozers etc.

It was a shitty analogy to begin with, I know that. But Israel should never have existed in the first place.

[Person012345]

And no, I do not think Chechnya is "90% terrorists or something", but when you see a teenage Russian conscript slowly having his throat cut with a dull knife, by a laughing group of Chechens, all the while he is choking in his own blood and screaming for his mother, you will understand why I do not like Chechens.

No I won't. Any more than the horrible stuff I've seen perpetrated by americans makes me hate all americans. Or Indians. Or any other nationality that is 99% normal people just trying to get on with their life (even though the majority are still douchebags they're not more douchebaggy than 99% of humans generally) and 1% crazy child murdering/raping scumbags.

[Person012345]

It's more like If your house gets reappropriated by someone, you think illegitimately, then given to someone else, but you're allowed to keep the basement. Then every so often one of your family members murders one of the new owners and the new owners start getting pissed off by this and start encroaching on your basement and killing your family members.

Of course the analogy is shit but whatever.

So Palestinians firing unguided rockets with no warheads automatically justifies bulldozing homes, airstrikes on children, walling off sections of the country and refusing passage to people who haven't done anything wrong, shooting Muslims for praying, running over Americans with bulldozers etc.

I don't believe I remotely implied anything like that. Of course, the rockets actually DO have warheads. And saying they don't is just flat out dishonest. Murder doesn't justify murder. However the palestinians are not blameless little innocents in the whole thing, and the Israelis are not an entire nation of bloodthirsty rampaging maniacs who run over palestinian puppies for fun.

[Urmanian]

I used to be a raging white nationalist with an especial bone to pick with Caucasians (not as in white people, but as in peoples of the Caucasus region like Dagestanis or Azerbaijanis) because they stole our jobs and ate our babies or something. That was especially funny since I have lots of Ossetian blood and look a lil' bit turkish. Then I grew up.

And no, I do not think Chechnya is "90% terrorists or something", but when you see a teenage Russian conscript slowly having his throat cut with a dull knife, by a laughing group of Chechens, all the while he is choking in his own blood and screaming for his mother, you will understand why I do not like Chechens.

I am not trying to defend the Chechen terrorists or anything but that conflict was an especially horrible war uncovering the absolute worst of humanity in both opposing sides, with mind-boggling terror and violence unleashed upon innocents and eachother by both sides. While those Chechens were cutting up a Russian conscript other Russian conscripts hanged and drawn Chechen civilian hostages behind APCs. It was not about nationality or race.

[Dictatorship Of Serdaristan]

So Palestinians firing unguided rockets with no warheads automatically justifies bulldozing homes, airstrikes on children, walling off sections of the country and refusing passage to people who haven't done anything wrong, shooting Muslims for praying, running over Americans with bulldozers etc.

I don't believe I remotely implied anything like that. Of course, the rockets actually DO have warheads. And saying they don't is just flat out dishonest. Murder doesn't justify murder. However the palestinians are not blameless little innocents in the whole thing, and the Israelis are not an entire nation of bloodthirsty rampaging maniacs who run over palestinian puppies for fun.

Due to successful Israeli embargoes, a good portion of rockets do not have warheads.
Palestinians are not 100% innocent, but they are acting in resistance, to use an example, the French resistance in WWII were probably labeled as "the bad guys" by Adolf Hitler, it's all about perspective.

[Person012345]

Due to successful Israeli embargoes, a good portion of rockets do not have warheads.

Well good for Israel.

Palestinians are not 100% innocent, but they are acting in resistance, to use an example, the French resistance in WWII were probably labeled as "the bad guys" by Adolf Hitler, it's all about perspective.

Right, and not all Germans are or were evil.

[Napkiraly]

I know former racists, but I've never been one myself. I think it was actually getting to know people from the other groups that they didn't like and generally just growing up and realizing that labeling an entire people based off of the actions of a few was moronic.

[Absurdity]

So Palestinians firing unguided rockets with no warheads automatically justifies bulldozing homes, airstrikes on children, walling off sections of the country and refusing passage to people who haven't done anything wrong, shooting Muslims for praying, running over Americans with bulldozers etc..

This is why no one takes the pro-Palestinian circle seriously: it's filled with alarmingly stupid and gullible people like yourself.

1. Palestinian rockets cause damage and kill innocents. But it's alright, be a good little sheep and ignore that.
2. Airstrikes on children? I think you might have mistaken violent, anti-Semitic Hamas military leaders for children. That's pretty silly.
3. Anyone who is "refused passage" is believed by the IDF to be a threat, and rightly so.
4. "Shooting Muslims for praying" -- If you're going to make things up, at least TRY to be realistic.
5. "Running over Americans with bulldozers" -- Oh, you mean that ONE incident that occurred over a decade ago that was actually an accident but Palestinian apologists continue to cling to it because it's the only argument against Israel that they have? Interesting.

Anything else?

[Dictatorship Of Serdaristan]

I used to be a raging white nationalist with an especial bone to pick with Caucasians (not as in white people, but as in peoples of the Caucasus region like Dagestanis or Azerbaijanis) because they stole our jobs and ate our babies or something. That was especially funny since I have lots of Ossetian blood and look a lil' bit turkish. Then I grew up.

And no, I do not think Chechnya is "90% terrorists or something", but when you see a teenage Russian conscript slowly having his throat cut with a dull knife, by a laughing group of Chechens, all the while he is choking in his own blood and screaming for his mother, you will understand why I do not like Chechens.

I am not trying to defend the Chechen terrorists or anything but that conflict was an especially horrible war uncovering the absolute worst of humanity in both opposing sides, with mind-boggling terror and violence unleashed upon innocents and eachother by both sides. While those Chechens were cutting up a Russian conscript other Russian conscripts hanged and drawn Chechen civilian hostages behind APCs. It was not about nationality or race.

The entire conflict was a bloody mess,and both sides certainly did abandon their humanity, but from what Russian soldiers told me, the first act was by the Chechens, and conscripts were shown the video before deployment and told to be ruthless, and not a single one would have a problem with killing or torturing Chechens.
There was also Beslan, and terrorist attacks on Russian soil.

I also heard a story about Chechens beheading Russians and playing soccer with the heads.

[Yankee Empire]

How do you know they've learned better?

How do you know the people you met are just exceptions and not the rule?

'Cause everyone's just human despite the color of our skin.

So what doas that have to do with Race exactly?

[Yankee Empire]

I used to be really racist towards the Japanese and Chinese, as well as the British, Arabs, and Turks.

I hated British people in 5th grade when I had this obsession with France due to Napoleon. That stopped though, almost immediately, due to this British girl who was in the same class as me, and was really nice to me after I'd been thinking racist thoughts about that person. It made me feel really bad, a bit confused, but most of all, just really stupid.

In that grade (and it'd last until the middle of 6th grade) I was also a really devout Christian, and I hated anything which I associated with Muslims. I hated how the Crusades were largely a failure, and wanted to wipe out the Arabs and Turks who I associated with it. I also hated Buddhists, as I felt it was what prevented Korea from becoming Christian (yes, incredibly stupid, I know).

I hated Japanese/Chinese people from the 5th grade on, as a hardcore Korean nationalist and due to everyone thinking that I was either Chinese or Japanese, which really pissed me off back then. In 6th grade, I wrote a list trying to describe all the evil things Japan did to Korea, and all this other crap, and I thought Yu-Gi-Oh! was an evil Japanese conspiracy to make fun of the Korean War (it's pronounced the same as 6-2-5 in Korean, which is what the Korean War is often called in Korea, as North Korea invaded on June 25th). I would also be involved in stupid arguments with others on Youtube. I wanted to exterminate the Japanese, and send all Chinese to labor camps where they would serve the interests of Koreans. I remember I liked this in 6th grade one girl who I thought was Chinese, and thought in my mind that I wouldn't send her to those camps. I'd acquired a reputation for being smart there (I'd read big books to look smart and I was good at math), and I would tell them that this was due to the inherent superiority of the Korean race. Oh god, that was embarrassing.

I don't know when I really stopped having those thoughts and feelings though. Somewhere in later 6th grade, probably. I think that for a while, I just started feeling apathetic towards Christianity and the whole thought of being Korean. I got really interested in Russia and the Soviet Union after that, and I guess those thoughts gradually faded away before disappearing entirely. Any racist thoughts towards the Japanese disappeared entirely when in 7th grade I became a huge Japanophile.

So you traded Bigotry for Fetishism?

[Dictatorship Of Serdaristan]

So Palestinians firing unguided rockets with no warheads automatically justifies bulldozing homes, airstrikes on children, walling off sections of the country and refusing passage to people who haven't done anything wrong, shooting Muslims for praying, running over Americans with bulldozers etc..

This is why no one takes the pro-Palestinian circle seriously: it's filled with alarmingly stupid and gullible people like yourself.

1. Palestinian rockets cause damage and kill innocents. But it's alright, be a good little sheep and ignore that.
2. Airstrikes on children? I think you might have mistaken violent, anti-Semitic Hamas military leaders for children. That's pretty silly.
3. Anyone who is "refused passage" is believed by the IDF to be a threat, and rightly so.
4. "Shooting Muslims for praying" -- If you're going to make things up, at least TRY to be realistic.
5. "Running over Americans with bulldozers" -- Oh, you mean that ONE incident that occurred over a decade ago that was actually an accident but Palestinian apologists continue to cling to it because it's the only argument against Israel that they have? Interesting.

Anything else?

Why do you hate Palestinians so much?
1. Partisans killed Nazis.
2. Israel has nothing against leveling apartment blocks if a Hamas militant is SUSPECTED of being there.
3. banning all males over the age of 14 from entering a mosque during ramadan, because they are all suicide bombers out to start another holocaust?
4. Muslims have been shot by IDF soldiers while praying in the street BECAUSE THEY WERE REFUSED ACCESS TO THE AFOREMENTIONED MOSQUE.
5.If you think that is the only argument against Israel you are quite possibly the stupidest person I have ever met.

[Yankee Empire]

Why do you hate Palestinians so much?
1. Partisans killed Nazis.

What?

[Napkiraly]

The entire conflict was a bloody mess,and both sides certainly did abandon their humanity, but from what Russian soldiers told me, the first act was by the Chechens, and conscripts were shown the video before deployment and told to be ruthless, and not a single one would have a problem with killing or torturing Chechens.
There was also Beslan, and terrorist attacks on Russian soil.

I also heard a story about Chechens beheading Russians and playing soccer with the heads.

So perhaps your beef should be the Chechens who did that crap rather than Chechens as whole. And regardless of who did it first, the Russian soldiers who did commit war crimes have no excuse for their asshatery.

[Person012345]

So you traded Bigotry for Fetishism?

Sounds like a good thing to me.

[Dictatorship Of Serdaristan]

Why do you hate Palestinians so much?
1. Partisans killed Nazis.

What?

Partisans killed Nazis in WWII, Nazis claim innocence.
Palestinians kill Israelis. Israelis claim innocence.

And I don't mean Nazi soldiers, I mean supporters of the national socialist party and party members.

[Person012345]

What?

Partisans killed Nazis in WWII, Nazis claim innocence.
Palestinians kill Israelis. Israelis claim innocence.

And I don't mean Nazi soldiers, I mean supporters of the national socialist party and party members.

Zomg, you just proved that ALL ISREALIS ARE NAZIS. That's amazing that I was so wrong.

[Dictatorship Of Serdaristan]

The entire conflict was a bloody mess,and both sides certainly did abandon their humanity, but from what Russian soldiers told me, the first act was by the Chechens, and conscripts were shown the video before deployment and told to be ruthless, and not a single one would have a problem with killing or torturing Chechens.
There was also Beslan, and terrorist attacks on Russian soil.

I also heard a story about Chechens beheading Russians and playing soccer with the heads.

So perhaps your beef should be the Chechens who did that crap rather than Chechens as whole. And regardless of who did it first, the Russian soldiers who did commit war crimes have no excuse for their asshatery.

I suppose, but the Chechen people as a whole see nothing wrong with such violence.

[Person012345]

So perhaps your beef should be the Chechens who did that crap rather than Chechens as whole. And regardless of who did it first, the Russian soldiers who did commit war crimes have no excuse for their asshatery.

I suppose, but the Chechen people as a whole see nothing wrong with such violence.

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