Former Racists

[Yankee Empire]

So everyone who dislikes the symbol of an oppressive and xenophobic regime and of its relative ideology who fucked over plenty of countries is a Liberal.

Classy, very classy.

By implication there are also 0 liberals in countries where the swastika is an accepted and even important religious symbol.

Oh don't be an airhead, you know im talking about Europe.

[Person012345]

The fucking swastika isn't banned in europe, god. It's banned in like, germany and 3 eastern european countries (Poland, Lithuania and Hungary). How does that make it "banned in europe". Germany isn't the entirity of Europe.

[Agritum]

The fucking swastika isn't banned in europe, god. It's banned in like, germany and 3 eastern european countries (Poland, Lithuania and Hungary). How does that make it "banned in europe". Germany isn't the entirity of Europe.

Surprisingly, it isn't banned in Italy or France, too.

[Person012345]

The Allies. Who were also composed by heavily rightist Britain and France. Your point?

Don't be silly, we all know that europe is full of pansy hippy socialist liberal nazis who want to take everyone's guns and free speech.

[Agritum]

The Allies. Who were also composed by heavily rightist Britain and France. Your point?

You are aware much of the "Rightists" were either Collaborators or Sympathisers who never called for the Swastika to be banned.

It's the Left that were so scared shitless by it that they banned it, thats why i said "Liberals" as in the Left or "Liberal Democracies" etc.

This is accurate. I don't know what your trying to prove.

Sure, De Gaulle and Churchill surely felt sorry for the Nazis.

[Samuraikoku]

Sure, De Gaulle and Churchill surely felt sorry for the Nazis.

Especially De Gaulle, the damned leftist. *nods*

[Person012345]

You are aware much of the "Rightists" were either Collaborators or Sympathisers who never called for the Swastika to be banned.

It's the Left that were so scared shitless by it that they banned it, thats why i said "Liberals" as in the Left or "Liberal Democracies" etc.

This is accurate. I don't know what your trying to prove.

Sure, De Gaulle and Churchill surely felt sorry for the Nazis.

And he called me an airhead.

[Jetan]

All Swastikas aren't related to the Nazis.

Did I say something to the contrary of it, in my precedent posts?

You turned a comment about all of the swastikas into one only about the Nazi swastika.

[Agritum]

Did I say something to the contrary of it, in my precedent posts?

You turned a comment about all of the swastikas into one only about the Nazi swastika.

Nope. I replied to a comment that said that "Liberals" were somehow guilty of ruining the swastika's reputation.

[Person012345]

It might also be worth noting that the failure of the proposed Europe-wide ban (proposed... maybe a few times, by germany and opposed strongly by the british who I believe were being led by labour at the time) was partially caused by, drum roll please... That ebil liberal plot of religious tolerance.

[Tel]

Banning the swastika only brings it more attention, ironically. It's not an inherently evil symbol. Much like blaming the knife in your hand when you stab someone with it.

[Yankee Empire]

Sure, De Gaulle and Churchill surely felt sorry for the Nazis.

And he called me an airhead.

I couldn't of possibly been Talking about Mosley or Petain?

[Yankee Empire]

You turned a comment about all of the swastikas into one only about the Nazi swastika.

Nope. I replied to a comment that said that "Liberals" were somehow guilty of ruining the swastika's reputation.

No i said they were responsible for it's banning.

[Samuraikoku]

I couldn't of possibly been Talking about Mosley or Petain?

Because Petain, obviously, banned Swastikas.

[Person012345]

I couldn't of possibly been Talking about Mosley or Petain?

Because Petain, obviously, banned Swastikas.

European governments are autocracies where random defecting generals have complete authority to ban symbols from use after being defeated in a war.

Yankee, what your saying is either totally non sequitur (totally disconnected point after disconnected point), or fucking insane.

[Samuraikoku]

Because Petain, obviously, banned Swastikas.

European governments are autocracies where random defecting generals have complete authority to ban symbols from use after being defeated in a war.

Yankee, what your saying is either totally non sequitur (totally disconnected point after disconnected point), or fucking insane.

Por qué no los dos?

[Person012345]

European governments are autocracies where random defecting generals have complete authority to ban symbols from use after being defeated in a war.

Yankee, what your saying is either totally non sequitur (totally disconnected point after disconnected point), or fucking insane.

Por qué no los dos?

Yankee refers to the other dude. I was agreeing with you. I also have no idea what you just said.

[Samuraikoku]

Yankee refers to the other dude. I was agreeing with you. I also have no idea what you just said.

"Why not both?" in Spanish. Basically, why is that either non-sequitur or fucking insane? Why does one exclude the other?

[Quintium]

The fucking swastika isn't banned in europe, god. It's banned in like, germany and 3 eastern european countries (Poland, Lithuania and Hungary). How does that make it "banned in europe". Germany isn't the entirity of Europe.

It seems you've forgotten about the Netherlands. If I remember correctly, displaying a swastika in public is illegal here, and the police will chase you down for it. Also illegal is giving a far-right salute, and saying our country can't take any more immigrants in without collapsing completely, and saying we should put our own citizens first. In fact, people have been convicted over those things several times.

[Person012345]

Yankee refers to the other dude. I was agreeing with you. I also have no idea what you just said.

"Why not both?" in Spanish. Basically, why is that either non-sequitur or fucking insane? Why does one exclude the other?

Ah, well now I just feel silly. But yes, that is definitely a possibility.

[Person012345]

The fucking swastika isn't banned in europe, god. It's banned in like, germany and 3 eastern european countries (Poland, Lithuania and Hungary). How does that make it "banned in europe". Germany isn't the entirity of Europe.

It seems you've forgotten about the Netherlands. If I remember correctly, displaying a swastika in public is illegal here, and the police will chase you down for it. Also illegal is giving a far-right salute, and saying our country can't take any more immigrants in without collapsing completely, and saying we should put our own citizens first. In fact, people have been convicted over those things several times.

I can find nothing supporting that claim. Care to provide a source?

[Occeania]

I was never racist but I still disliked a lot of lower class African Americans/Hispanics. I mean both races have a higher unemployment rate thus tend to be on welfare more often (something I highly dislike.) infact I hate whities on welfare, But if a African Ameircan or Hispanic was hard working and got a job you know or at least was not on welfare and not some gang banger then yeah, I could get along just fine with them.

[Quintium]

I can find nothing supporting that claim. Care to provide a source?

They fall under laws against inciting discrimination, inciting hatred and calling for violence. I'll give you one simple example: Article 137d, Wetboek van Strafrecht. It's illegal to incite hatred in spoken word, written word or image.

The government has also signed a treaty which forbids all war propaganda and propaganda based on heritage, race or religion that is meant to incite discrimination, hostility or violence. That's the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, article 20, for reference.

If you want a practical example of how those are used, try to look for Hans Janmaat, a former member of Dutch parliament who was convicted several times for saying such things as "we need to put our own citizens first."

[Dejanic]

When I was very young and new to politics (Around the age of 13), I was a quasi-fascistic British nationalist (even though I am ethnically Croatian and most British nationalists would have me deported if they had their way).

However I'm about as far from those views as you can get nowadays, I'm now a Marxist-Socialist, and as a result, a believer in open borders, and my fiance is a black woman.

[Volnotova]

I am not a racist, in fact, I am part of a familly that has been on the recieving end of racism (and anti-semitism).

Being that I and others within my familly have been at the recieving end of it I have zero tolerance for that kind of behaviour (and no problem calling people out for it in public).