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Postby Person012345 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:36 am

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The Nazis aren't the ones who banned there use...

No, but they are the ones who tainted them in the eyes of the world and the Allies who then banned them.

The use of the swastika is not banned here or in the US or in many allied countries afaik. That would be a violation of free speech. The reason you don't see them hanging everywhere is because there's no reason for it and it's offensive (due to the nazis). If you like them go to a buddhist country in asia.

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Postby Zweite Alaje » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:48 am

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Jetan wrote:No, but they are the ones who tainted them in the eyes of the world and the Allies who then banned them.

The use of the swastika is not banned here or in the US or in many allied countries afaik. That would be a violation of free speech. The reason you don't see them hanging everywhere is because there's no reason for it and it's offensive (due to the nazis). If you like them go to a buddhist country in asia.

There is more than one type of swastika though. The Nazi one is very specific, it is tilted 45 degrees.
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Postby Yankee Empire » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:04 am

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Ralkovia wrote:Rationalization. When something terrible happens and it doesn't fit into our conceived notions of the World, we rationalize. She was likely anti-racist to begin with. Once she was raped, she likely tried to fit the experience of being raped by blacks into her out look on racism, when they didn't mix, she had to find someone to blame.

Yup. No more twisted illogical than rationalizing rape the other way by blaming the whole race that the perpetrator belongs to. But our society accepts one rationalization more than the other. As evidenced by Yankee Empire's shock. Just a thought.

Sorry i thought a women Blaming "the white man" for her rape by a Haitian was Crazy.

I guess im just a Big ol Racist, where my Bedsheet at!?
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Postby Disserbia » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:19 am

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Agritum wrote:Nazis ruined the reputation of the Swastika, the Stalhelm and countless other cool symbols they used. It sucks, really.

No, European Liberals Ruined them.

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Postby Grad Duchy of Luxembourg » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:24 am

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Grad Duchy of Luxembourg wrote:Yup. No more twisted illogical than rationalizing rape the other way by blaming the whole race that the perpetrator belongs to. But our society accepts one rationalization more than the other. As evidenced by Yankee Empire's shock. Just a thought.

Sorry i thought a women Blaming "the white man" for her rape by a Haitian was Crazy.

I guess im just a Big ol Racist, where my Bedsheet at!?

Where the fuck did I ever accuse you of being a racist?
A woman was raped. Perhaps a little sympathy for her rationalization (as Ralkovia pointed out) is needed, instead of your mocking of her anti-racist attitude. That was my point.
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Postby Anachronous Rex » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:33 am

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Agritum wrote:Nazis ruined the reputation of the Swastika, the Stalhelm and countless other cool symbols they used. It sucks, really.

No, European Liberals Ruined them.

With bombs.
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Postby Jetan » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:40 am

Person012345 wrote:
Jetan wrote:No, but they are the ones who tainted them in the eyes of the world and the Allies who then banned them.

The use of the swastika is not banned here or in the US or in many allied countries afaik. That would be a violation of free speech. The reason you don't see them hanging everywhere is because there's no reason for it and it's offensive (due to the nazis). If you like them go to a buddhist country in asia.

They aren't officially banned, no. However you can be damn sure getting rid of them was the allied control commissions fault. As to "going to a buddhist country" why should I have to leave my country to use it's ancient symbols just because some people don't understand the difference between the nazi swastika and the rest?
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Postby Yankee Empire » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:15 am

Grad Duchy of Luxembourg wrote:
Yankee Empire wrote:Sorry i thought a women Blaming "the white man" for her rape by a Haitian was Crazy.

I guess im just a Big ol Racist, where my Bedsheet at!?

Where the fuck did I ever accuse you of being a racist?
A woman was raped. Perhaps a little sympathy for her rationalization (as Ralkovia pointed out) is needed, instead of your mocking of her anti-racist attitude. That was my point.

Sympathy? It's terrible she got raped but it's hard to sympathize with someone whos bought in to all this liberal nonsense so much that she feels she can't even be angry about the fact that she was raped.
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Postby Yankee Empire » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:17 am

Anachronous Rex wrote:
Yankee Empire wrote:No, European Liberals Ruined them.

With bombs.

I'm sure most of the fighting men weren't, not in the sense you probably mean anyway.

Jetan wrote:
Person012345 wrote:The use of the swastika is not banned here or in the US or in many allied countries afaik. That would be a violation of free speech. The reason you don't see them hanging everywhere is because there's no reason for it and it's offensive (due to the nazis). If you like them go to a buddhist country in asia.

They aren't officially banned, no. However you can be damn sure getting rid of them was the allied control commissions fault. As to "going to a buddhist country" why should I have to leave my country to use it's ancient symbols just because some people don't understand the difference between the nazi swastika and the rest?


The taboo around them and the Fact that it is banned in a lot of countries just adds to the Taboo of it.

I mean hell you can't even have one on this site.
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Postby Grad Duchy of Luxembourg » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:18 am

Yankee Empire wrote:
Grad Duchy of Luxembourg wrote:Where the fuck did I ever accuse you of being a racist?
A woman was raped. Perhaps a little sympathy for her rationalization (as Ralkovia pointed out) is needed, instead of your mocking of her anti-racist attitude. That was my point.

Sympathy? It's terrible she got raped but it's hard to sympathize with someone whos bought in to all this liberal nonsense so much that she feels she can't even be angry about the fact that she was raped.

The fact you can't sympathize with a rape victim says much about you.
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Postby Person012345 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:22 am

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Person012345 wrote:The use of the swastika is not banned here or in the US or in many allied countries afaik. That would be a violation of free speech. The reason you don't see them hanging everywhere is because there's no reason for it and it's offensive (due to the nazis). If you like them go to a buddhist country in asia.

There is more than one type of swastika though. The Nazi one is very specific, it is tilted 45 degrees.

So being at a jaunty angle makes it totally irresistible, while a normal swastika is meh?

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Postby Yankee Empire » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:23 am

Grad Duchy of Luxembourg wrote:
Yankee Empire wrote:Sympathy? It's terrible she got raped but it's hard to sympathize with someone whos bought in to all this liberal nonsense so much that she feels she can't even be angry about the fact that she was raped.

The fact you can't sympathize with a rape victim says much about you.

What does it say?
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Postby Grad Duchy of Luxembourg » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:24 am

Yankee Empire wrote:
Grad Duchy of Luxembourg wrote:The fact you can't sympathize with a rape victim says much about you.

What does it say?

exactly
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Postby Yankee Empire » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:27 am

Grad Duchy of Luxembourg wrote:
Yankee Empire wrote:What does it say?

exactly


It says exactly?
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Postby Distruzio » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:29 am

Not a racist. Have never been. Have no issue with racism, though. Several of my acquaintances are, themselves, racists. They mistrust black Americans, Mexican-Americans, and the like. Their racism, however, tends to fall by the wayside in the order of priorities. Watching the many iterations of the Klan implode over the last few decades and the effects of the internet eliminate the last vestiges of actual initiative beyond slacktivism, these men and women now, by and large, concern themselves with more pressing matters.

In other words - it isn't that they've become less racist it's that their racism has become less pertinent.
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Postby Grad Duchy of Luxembourg » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:29 am

Yankee Empire wrote:
Grad Duchy of Luxembourg wrote:exactly


It says exactly?

that you are tone deaf
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Postby Yankee Empire » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:32 am

Grad Duchy of Luxembourg wrote:
Yankee Empire wrote:
It says exactly?

that you are tone deaf

What the hell are you talking about?
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Postby Jetan » Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:48 am

Yankee Empire wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:With bombs.

I'm sure most of the fighting men weren't, not in the sense you probably mean anyway.

Jetan wrote:They aren't officially banned, no. However you can be damn sure getting rid of them was the allied control commissions fault. As to "going to a buddhist country" why should I have to leave my country to use it's ancient symbols just because some people don't understand the difference between the nazi swastika and the rest?


The taboo around them and the Fact that it is banned in a lot of countries just adds to the Taboo of it.

I mean hell you can't even have one on this site.

Only way to break the Taboos is to go against them. I use swastika everyday and I hate the nazis, my swastika has nothing to do with them. If someone is confused about it, they are welcome to ask me what it's about, and I will tell them. If they are ignorant and won't bother to ask, then they aren't worth the effort anyway.
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Postby Agritum » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:19 am

Yankee Empire wrote:
Agritum wrote:Nazis ruined the reputation of the Swastika, the Stalhelm and countless other cool symbols they used. It sucks, really.

No, European Liberals Ruined them.

So everyone who dislikes the symbol of an oppressive and xenophobic regime and of its relative ideology who fucked over plenty of countries is a Liberal.

Classy, very classy.
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Postby Jetan » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:28 am

Agritum wrote:
Yankee Empire wrote:No, European Liberals Ruined them.

So everyone who dislikes the symbol of an oppressive and xenophobic regime and of its relative ideology who fucked over plenty of countries is a Liberal.

Classy, very classy.

All Swastikas aren't related to the Nazis.
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Postby Yankee Empire » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:32 am

Jetan wrote:Only way to break the Taboos is to go against them. I use swastika everyday and I hate the nazis, my swastika has nothing to do with them. If someone is confused about it, they are welcome to ask me what it's about, and I will tell them. If they are ignorant and won't bother to ask, then they aren't worth the effort anyway.


I agree, Though i don't Hate National Socialism, Sure im not a Fan of the Holocaust But the ideology never mentions such a thing anyway.
Agritum wrote:
Yankee Empire wrote:No, European Liberals Ruined them.

So everyone who dislikes the symbol of an oppressive and xenophobic regime and of its relative ideology who fucked over plenty of countries is a Liberal.

Classy, very classy.

You are aware who banned the Swastika from use in Europe right?
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Postby Agritum » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:34 am

Yankee Empire wrote:
Jetan wrote:Only way to break the Taboos is to go against them. I use swastika everyday and I hate the nazis, my swastika has nothing to do with them. If someone is confused about it, they are welcome to ask me what it's about, and I will tell them. If they are ignorant and won't bother to ask, then they aren't worth the effort anyway.


I agree, Though i don't Hate National Socialism, Sure im not a Fan of the Holocaust But the ideology never mentions such a thing anyway.
Agritum wrote:So everyone who dislikes the symbol of an oppressive and xenophobic regime and of its relative ideology who fucked over plenty of countries is a Liberal.

Classy, very classy.

You are aware who banned the Swastika from use in Europe right?

The Allies. Who were also composed by heavily rightist Britain and France. Your point?

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Postby Agritum » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:39 am

Jetan wrote:
Agritum wrote:So everyone who dislikes the symbol of an oppressive and xenophobic regime and of its relative ideology who fucked over plenty of countries is a Liberal.

Classy, very classy.

All Swastikas aren't related to the Nazis.

Did I say something to the contrary of it, in my precedent posts?

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Postby Person012345 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:40 am

Agritum wrote:
Yankee Empire wrote:No, European Liberals Ruined them.

So everyone who dislikes the symbol of an oppressive and xenophobic regime and of its relative ideology who fucked over plenty of countries is a Liberal.

Classy, very classy.

By implication there are also 0 liberals in countries where the swastika is an accepted and even important religious symbol.

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Postby Yankee Empire » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:42 am

Agritum wrote:
Yankee Empire wrote:
I agree, Though i don't Hate National Socialism, Sure im not a Fan of the Holocaust But the ideology never mentions such a thing anyway.

You are aware who banned the Swastika from use in Europe right?

The Allies. Who were also composed by heavily rightist Britain and France. Your point?


You are aware much of the "Rightists" were either Collaborators or Sympathisers who never called for the Swastika to be banned.

It's the Left that were so scared shitless by it that they banned it, thats why i said "Liberals" as in the Left or "Liberal Democracies" etc.

This is accurate. I don't know what your trying to prove.
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