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Postby Partybus » Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:30 pm

Dictatorship Of Serdaristan wrote:I never was terribly "racist", but to some degree I'm a white nationalist. As Draganograd said, I don't dislike people based on skin color, but by actions of a particular group. I have nothing against African Americans or Hispanics, but African American communities have a higher crime rate, as with average Hispanic communities. As a rule, I think segregation and apartheid is wrong, but I would vastly prefer living in a white community than an ethnic community.

That being said, there are a few groups I absolutely detest, Chechens, Zionists, Israelis, FSA terrorists, and fundamentalists of any religion.
I've been called an anti-semite, Nazi, Evil jew hater etc. due to my anger towards Israel and the fact I dislike Zionist Jews. I've met many Jewish people and found them to be wonderful people but that does not stop me from hating Israel for it's politics and indiscriminate holocaust on palestinians.

One scenario I see a lot of is the "it's because I'm black, isn't it?" game.
In the schools I attended, people of color were almost never punished for fighting, theft, vandalism, swearing in class etc.
they would always pull the race card because the principal and 99% of the teachers were white. They always got away with it too, because the school was too afraid of law suits to instill any sort of order.

In short, It's not about skin color, it's about what you do. If you label someone a racist because they don't like you for your actions and they just so happen to be of a different race, you are the racist.



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Postby Ralkovia » Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:31 pm

Dictatorship Of Serdaristan wrote:
Person012345 wrote:It's more like If your house gets reappropriated by someone, you think illegitimately, then given to someone else, but you're allowed to keep the basement. Then every so often one of your family members murders one of the new owners and the new owners start getting pissed off by this and start encroaching on your basement and killing your family members.

Of course the analogy is shit but whatever.

So Palestinians firing unguided rockets with no warheads automatically justifies bulldozing homes, airstrikes on children, walling off sections of the country and refusing passage to people who haven't done anything wrong, shooting Muslims for praying, running over Americans with bulldozers etc.

It was a shitty analogy to begin with, I know that. But Israel should never have existed in the first place.


Really? What country are you from?

Because you know...every country has been formed with violence and been built on conquering someone else.

If your going to cry bullshit and say that we blame Israel because it's only recent, as in 65 years ago, then maybe India should return to British control, after all the British had control of India for 400+ years. Or maybe all of Africa should go back to the European powers.

Or better yet, we should just disband most countries.
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Postby Partybus » Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:34 pm

Absurdity wrote:
Dictatorship Of Serdaristan wrote:indiscriminate holocaust on palestinians.

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I've been called "racist" thousands of times, and am still branded as such today. The truth is that I hate everyone equally. You're all awful in my eyes.


Well, in that case, you're not a "racist"...you are an "ist"

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Postby Ralkovia » Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:38 pm

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Tel wrote:Guess you'd better find another planet to live on


Not another planet, but I'm seriously considering to migrate away from this multicultural hellhole.
Let the jackals have whatever's left, and the government tax itself into oblivion, and the dependents starve, and I'll be high and dry.

Tel wrote:White nationalism is suffering a slow, agonizing death.


Actually, across Europe, it's making a rather rapid rise in popularity. Which is obvious.


Well it's not really white nationalism, when we Jews get to be included in it. It's more like being a culturalist. As in, don't get your women hating, bomb making middle eastern culture in my sex loving, robotic soldier culture.
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Postby Gothmogs » Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:41 pm

The Second Brotherhood of Planets wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:I'm still a little bit prejudiced against African Americans (note: African Americans, not native Africans), for reasons I don't fully understand.

But I try very hard not to be.


Asian American here. You know, I subscribe to the "everyone is a person in the end" idea, yet I still have some underlying prejudice towards Black People, specifically African Americans. I know, I know, it's racist and it's a horrible thing to have but I think it is based on my experiences with many African Americans in the past. I have met wonderful African Americans (note, I have had few if any related problems with hostility or attempted altercations with African people like Nigerians), but I can't say I've had friendly experiences with most African Americans. I'll bet I'm not trying hard enough, and I try to look beyond this prejudicial instinct, but it's still here, like a dark, cruel beast hiding under my skin.

Note that I have absolutely no problem with other ethnic groups or with Nigerians, Kenyans, South Africans, and so on. I guess I can also hide behind that ol' musical number in Avenue Q:

EVERYONE'S A LITTLE BIT RACIST SOMETIMES, DOESN'T MEAN WE GO AROUND COMMITTING HATE CRIMES!

I think the problem is misunderstanding. There are cultural differences in races, you just cannot expect everyone to fall under those differences all the time. I grew up with a very large black population, in fact whites were the minority. It may have looked like the people you met or had trouble with were acting hostile, but they probably weren't, the cultural mannerisms are different. I might be completely wrong however, as I did not see what you saw.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:52 pm

Ralkovia wrote:
Dictatorship Of Serdaristan wrote:So Palestinians firing unguided rockets with no warheads automatically justifies bulldozing homes, airstrikes on children, walling off sections of the country and refusing passage to people who haven't done anything wrong, shooting Muslims for praying, running over Americans with bulldozers etc.

It was a shitty analogy to begin with, I know that. But Israel should never have existed in the first place.


Really? What country are you from?

Because you know...every country has been formed with violence and been built on conquering someone else.

If your going to cry bullshit and say that we blame Israel because it's only recent, as in 65 years ago, then maybe India should return to British control, after all the British had control of India for 400+ years. Or maybe all of Africa should go back to the European powers.

Or better yet, we should just disband most countries.

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:55 pm

On topic, I admit that I was quite racist to most everyone, especially blacks and East Asians.

After travelling around the world and actually meeting these groups, I realised I was a dumbass and I now try to prevent skin colour from colouring my judgement of groups.

I am, in case you are not aware, an Indian.
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Postby Kaizakhstan » Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:13 pm

Dictatorship Of Serdaristan wrote:to some degree I'm a white nationalist.


Dictatorship Of Serdaristan wrote:I think segregation and apartheid is wrong


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Postby Disserbia » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:04 pm

Ralkovia wrote:
Dictatorship Of Serdaristan wrote:So Palestinians firing unguided rockets with no warheads automatically justifies bulldozing homes, airstrikes on children, walling off sections of the country and refusing passage to people who haven't done anything wrong, shooting Muslims for praying, running over Americans with bulldozers etc.

It was a shitty analogy to begin with, I know that. But Israel should never have existed in the first place.


Really? What country are you from?

Because you know...every country has been formed with violence and been built on conquering someone else.

If your going to cry bullshit and say that we blame Israel because it's only recent, as in 65 years ago, then maybe India should return to British control, after all the British had control of India for 400+ years. Or maybe all of Africa should go back to the European powers.

Or better yet, we should just disband most countries.

We probably should.
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:08 pm

Kaizakhstan wrote:
Dictatorship Of Serdaristan wrote:to some degree I'm a white nationalist.


Dictatorship Of Serdaristan wrote:I think segregation and apartheid is wrong


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You can be a race nationalist without being racist, you do know that right?
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Postby Disserbia » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:15 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Kaizakhstan wrote:


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You can be a race nationalist without being racist, you do know that right?

Not the racist racialist thing, please God or whomever, literally anything but that.
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:19 pm

Disserbia wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:You can be a race nationalist without being racist, you do know that right?

Not the racist racialist thing, please God or whomever, literally anything but that.

I could still be considered a black nationalist, yet I don't go about General screaming "WHITE DEBILS BLU EYED WHITE DEBILS".

There is a difference. Just like not all nationalists aren't imperialists or xenophobes.
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Postby Disserbia » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:21 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Disserbia wrote:Not the racist racialist thing, please God or whomever, literally anything but that.

I could still be considered a black nationalist, yet I don't go about General screaming "WHITE DEBILS BLU EYED WHITE DEBILS".

There is a difference. Just like not all nationalists aren't imperialists or xenophobes.

Yes I know this, I'm a bit of a nationalist myself and I hate how that word it's misused by opponents but are you quite sure you want to do this here, I mean t is NSG.
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:24 pm

Disserbia wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:I could still be considered a black nationalist, yet I don't go about General screaming "WHITE DEBILS BLU EYED WHITE DEBILS".

There is a difference. Just like not all nationalists aren't imperialists or xenophobes.

Yes I know this, I'm a bit of a nationalist myself and I hate how that word it's misused by opponents but are you quite sure you want to do this here, I mean t is NSG.


Race isn't a primary concern for me, that's why I don't often bring it up here. As usual, I'm more focused on combatting liberals.
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Postby Haydenish People » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:27 pm

What's sad is that people are willing to throw around "racist" as a joke when racial prejudice is serious. Take, for example, the Rwandan genocide. Racism was one of the main causes of it.

I've never really considered myself racist. Racism, as with all intolerance and prejudice, is pointless in my view. It's a way for weak people to feel stronger when really they're the same as everyone else. What is the point of insulting people based on their culture or ethnicity? There isn't one, because everyone is human.
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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:42 pm

I'm not really a racist, I just have a few misconceptions about people of other races. However, once I came to Canada, I found out that we are just all the same, given with equal rights. I guess that what made my misconception go away.
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Postby Ralkovia » Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:10 pm

Being racist was always stupid to me. I judge people by the ideology they keep, not by the color of their skin or their bits under their trousers. By judging based on skin color you exclude more members to your ideology. Even a flaming racist would understand that there are people of X ethnic group willing to compromise or serve.
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Postby Yankee Empire » Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:30 pm

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So you traded Bigotry for Fetishism?

Fetishism? :eyebrow:


It seems the only reason you "stopped being a bigot" is because you met some cute asian girls and saw some anime.
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Postby Yankee Empire » Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:35 pm

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Vietnam wrote:Fetishism? :eyebrow:

He obviously prefer bigotry to fetishism.

I'm just playing devils advocate(from your perspective) because theres not enough racists posting.
Bigotry can at least have utility, Fetishism doesn't.
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Postby Choronzon » Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:40 pm

Ralkovia wrote:Really? What country are you from?

Because you know...every country has been formed with violence and been built on conquering someone else.

What an astoundingly shitty excuse for bad behavior.

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Postby Choronzon » Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:42 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:India gained independence non-violently.

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Postby Vietnam » Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:17 pm

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Vietnam wrote:Fetishism? :eyebrow:


It seems the only reason you "stopped being a bigot" is because you met some cute asian girls and saw some anime.

Hahahaha, no. I was one of the only East Asians living in my area, and my interest was rather in Japanese traditional music, architecture, cherry blossoms, and aesthetics. The only thing close to anime I'd watched during that period was Pokemon when I was a little kid, which probably doesn't even count anyhow. I also already had lots of contact with Asian girls due to visits, guests, and social events.
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Postby Yankee Empire » Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:20 pm

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It seems the only reason you "stopped being a bigot" is because you met some cute asian girls and saw some anime.

Hahahaha, no. I was the only East Asian living in my area, and my interest was rather in Japanese traditional music, architecture, cherry blossoms, and aesthetics. The only thing close to anime I'd watched during that period was Pokemon when I was a little kid, which probably doesn't even count anyhow.


So do you think it'd been better if Korea was part of the Japanese Empire?
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Postby Vietnam » Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:22 pm

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Vietnam wrote:Hahahaha, no. I was the only East Asian living in my area, and my interest was rather in Japanese traditional music, architecture, cherry blossoms, and aesthetics. The only thing close to anime I'd watched during that period was Pokemon when I was a little kid, which probably doesn't even count anyhow.


So do you think it'd been better if Korea was part of the Japanese Empire?

:palm:

Where do you keep coming up with this bullshit? No, of course not.

However, Korea was part of the Japanese Empire, having become a protectorate in 1905, and becoming annexed in 1910.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:52 pm

Dictatorship Of Serdaristan wrote:In the schools I attended, people of color were almost never punished for fighting, theft, vandalism, swearing in class etc.
they would always pull the race card because the principal and 99% of the teachers were white. They always got away with it too, because the school was too afraid of law suits to instill any sort of order.


Someone tried that at my middle school and they were very embarrassed when they found out the principal, who they had accused of discriminating against their son, was black.
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