Why was Hitler REALLY hating Jews?

[Buffett and Colbert]

I'm guessing you're more into emotional rhetoric and spewing pre-fabricated politically correct non-sense than anything else.

I love it when people are so hypocritical.

Think of it like this. The Arabs live in the middle east and North Africa. Did they miraculously appear out of no where? No, they didn't. They are actually descended from the various local empires that have existed in Mesopotamia, The Levant, Egypt and Phoenicia since the beginning of recorded history. The Jews came from this region, the fertile crescent, about six thousand years ago. They emigrated to the Levant, where the Ammonites and the Akkadians lived. They were forced out by the Canaanites, sent to Egypt to serve as slaves. After that, we know that Moses led the Israelites on a forty year trek through the Sinai peninsula. Upon Moses' death, Joshua took charge of the Israelite army and led them of a few bloody campaigns, which ended with the complete annihilation of the Canaanites, the Ammonites and quite a few others. The modern Jew is an amalgam of these peoples, having taken the women and children into Israeli society at the end of their campaigns.

Ancestry is irrelevant in this case. We all are descended from Africans, so using your logic, both our points are moot.

The Arabs themselves are yet another amalgamation of peoples that lived in the region. Mesopotamia was Iraq, Kurdistan, Turkey and The Levant. The Assyrians were the major empire in the region for many thousands of years. They lived in the region with people like the Babylonians, the Elamites, the Scythians and the Egyptians and did battle with them on a near constant basis. The modern Persians, Arabs, Kurds, Syrians, Jews and Turks are descended from these empires. People have lived in the middle east since the beginning of time, they were the first to record history. The Arabs and the Jews come from the same gene pool.

So? We all come from the same gene pool.

They're the same people. The only difference is their interpretation of Judaism.

Except for many different physical traits, correct?

As for the Jews killing Jesus, like Hitler, they didn't do it directly. The Romans really didn't give a shit about Jesus Christ. That is recorded in the bible, which we have to use as a reference for the line of thinking of a lot of people back then and even today. The Jews were prohibited by their own laws to execute Jesus themselves. Furthermore, it was believed by the ruling parties of Israel at the time that if the Romans killed Jesus, it would de-legitimize his movement. So, they begged the Romans to do it... Eventually, they did. This is a well understood fact.

Then you will have no problems sourcing it.

If you don't know enough about the history of the bronze age, please, feel free to research it yourself... The internet is a wonderful place filled with information.

You make the claims, you source them.

[Auman]

What's worse? Legitimately (albeit obviously irrationally) hating a group for some bad experiences in his past, or demonizing and killing them just to further his own agenda?

Not doing it of course...

What I think is worse is that when a race of people commit atrocities that make the holocaust pale in comparison during the tenure of their empire are now suddenly back on the international stage.

Um...What?

Dude, the Israelites wiped entire civilizations off the map. Something the Romans wouldn't do... And the Assyrians would usually just enslave conquered peoples.

Source?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jericho

Only Rahab and her family were spared. This is just one example from Joshua's campaign. Now, taking into account the way things worked back then in terms of government, the city-state, this single action is comparable to wiping out a country like New Zealand.

[Auman]

I'm guessing you're more into emotional rhetoric and spewing pre-fabricated politically correct non-sense than anything else.

I love it when people are so hypocritical.

Think of it like this. The Arabs live in the middle east and North Africa. Did they miraculously appear out of no where? No, they didn't. They are actually descended from the various local empires that have existed in Mesopotamia, The Levant, Egypt and Phoenicia since the beginning of recorded history. The Jews came from this region, the fertile crescent, about six thousand years ago. They emigrated to the Levant, where the Ammonites and the Akkadians lived. They were forced out by the Canaanites, sent to Egypt to serve as slaves. After that, we know that Moses led the Israelites on a forty year trek through the Sinai peninsula. Upon Moses' death, Joshua took charge of the Israelite army and led them of a few bloody campaigns, which ended with the complete annihilation of the Canaanites, the Ammonites and quite a few others. The modern Jew is an amalgam of these peoples, having taken the women and children into Israeli society at the end of their campaigns.

Ancestry is irrelevant in this case. We all are descended from Africans, so using your logic, both our points are moot.

The Arabs themselves are yet another amalgamation of peoples that lived in the region. Mesopotamia was Iraq, Kurdistan, Turkey and The Levant. The Assyrians were the major empire in the region for many thousands of years. They lived in the region with people like the Babylonians, the Elamites, the Scythians and the Egyptians and did battle with them on a near constant basis. The modern Persians, Arabs, Kurds, Syrians, Jews and Turks are descended from these empires. People have lived in the middle east since the beginning of time, they were the first to record history. The Arabs and the Jews come from the same gene pool.

So? We all come from the same gene pool.

They're the same people. The only difference is their interpretation of Judaism.

As for the Jews killing Jesus, like Hitler, they didn't do it directly. The Romans really didn't give a shit about Jesus Christ. That is recorded in the bible, which we have to use as a reference for the line of thinking of a lot of people back then and even today. The Jews were prohibited by their own laws to execute Jesus themselves. Furthermore, it was believed by the ruling parties of Israel at the time that if the Romans killed Jesus, it would de-legitimize his movement. So, they begged the Romans to do it... Eventually, they did. This is a well understood fact.

If you don't know enough about the history of the bronze age, please, feel free to research it yourself... The internet is a wonderful place filled with information.

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And to go back further, we're all descended from the discarded husks of exploded stars. I guess any debate is irrelevant, due to your stunning realization. Thread's over, guys, we can all go home now.

[Tezdrian]

Ugh, not this again. Hitler hated Jews for the same reason everyone hated Jews back then: They thought they were subhuman. He believed in this, so when he came to power, he institutionalized it. Not any Soap Opera-esque doctors or professors.

[Buffett and Colbert]

And to go back further, we're all descended from the discarded husks of exploded stars. I guess any debate is irrelevant, due to your stunning realization. Thread's over, guys, we can all go home now.

Following your faulty logic, that's exactly right.

[Buffett and Colbert]

Ugh, not this again. Hitler hated Jews for the same reason everyone hated Jews back then: They thought they were subhuman. He believed in this, so when he came to power, he institutionalized it. Not any Soap Opera-esque doctors or professors.

Stop spamming.

[Maurepas]

What's worse? Legitimately (albeit obviously irrationally) hating a group for some bad experiences in his past, or demonizing and killing them just to further his own agenda?

Not doing it of course...

What I think is worse is that when a race of people commit atrocities that make the holocaust pale in comparison during the tenure of their empire are now suddenly back on the international stage.

Um...What?

Dude, the Israelites wiped entire civilizations off the map. Something the Romans wouldn't do... And the Assyrians would usually just enslave conquered peoples.

Source?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jericho

Only Rahab and her family were spared. This is just one example from Joshua's campaign. Now, taking into account the way things worked back then in terms of government, the city-state, this single action is comparable to wiping out a country like New Zealand.

Yeah, that never actually happened:

The Battle of Jericho is described in the Bible (Joshua 5:13-6:27) as the first battle of the Israelites during their conquest of Canaan.

Further down the page:

The battle's historicity is therefore dismissed by modern scholars - archaeologist Bill Dever, for example, has said: [I]f you want a miracle, here's your miracle: Joshua destroyed a city that wasn't even there,[3] and biblical scholar Eric Cline writes:

The simple fact is that there is no mention of the Hebrews or Israelites in any text from Canaan, Egypt, or elsewhere in the Near East before 1207 B.C. And yet there should be if the Exodus took place in 1450 B.C. and the Israelite conquest of Canaan took place in 1410 of 1400 B.C., because there are plenty of Canaanite and Egyptian texts what could have mentioned them if they were present.

Thanx for playing though,

[Lizardiar]

The Jews had been the focus of hate for hundreds of years before Hitler. During the Black Plague, Jews were called the cause of it all. During the 1917 revolution the Bolsheviks blamed the Jews for the Nobles having so much money. So, Antisemitism isn't anything new.

What's strange is that, the Jews are part of a religion. They aren't a race. The Jews are simply followers of Judaism, or Zionism.

[Auman]

Holy smokes, Colbert, you're right! The difference is like night and day! The only difference I see is that this Arab teenager knew better than to grow out a shitty mustache.

[Buffett and Colbert]

*snip irrelevance*
Holy smokes, Colbert, you're right! The difference is like night and day! The only difference I see is that this Arab teenager knew better than to grow out a shitty mustache.

Nice strawman.

[Nodinia]

Many people would say Adolf Hitler was just crazy and hated Jews. However if yiu think back to Hitlers childhood then you will know that his mother was indeed sick. When she died he found out that his mothers doctor happened to be Jewish. This could of easily caused him To hate Jewish people.

He always knew he was Jewish. He even wrote him a thank you letter for the treatment he gave his mother over the years. However, in his subconcious, and during the years he was exposed to anti-semtic politics, the idea of "Jew" and "disease" may have become intermingled. Certainly mein Kampf is full of comparisons to Jews and disease, cancer and infections.

[Greed and Death]

Many people would say Adolf Hitler was just crazy and hated Jews. However if yiu think back to Hitlers childhood then you will know that his mother was indeed sick. When she died he found out that his mothers doctor happened to be Jewish. This could of easily caused him To hate Jewish people.

Another reason is that quite frankly he didn't actually hate Jews. Maybe he realized that the German people wanted somebody to blame for all bad things so he chose a minority group which happened to be Jews to blame because nobody would stand up for them and other Germans would think "Oh look he found someone to blame let's join him!"

Therefore Hitler was not just "Crazy" and there was phyciatric reasons. Or like I said he mght of not really hated them and just did it so he could obtain power.

The problem with the doctor theory, is he personally saw to it his mother's doctor and family were allowed to safely leave Germany with their wealth intact. Someone who hates a race because of the actions of one member of it, is unlikely to go out of his way to help that individual out.

The 2nd theory is more likely, western Europe had a habit of scapegoating Jewish people that traces back to the first crusade.

[The Norse Hordes]

Or maybe he went after Jews because they were/are the easiest to scapegoat. I mean, its not like Europe had centuries of practice doing it.

[Soyut]

I thought Himler was more into the whole "kill the Jews" thing. Wasn't Hitler more into vegetarianism?

[The Norse Hordes]

I thought Himler was more into the whole "kill the Jews" thing. Wasn't Hitler more into vegetarianism?

Heidrich.

[Soyut]

I thought Himler was more into the whole "kill the Jews" thing. Wasn't Hitler more into vegetarianism?

Heidrich.

Wait, this guy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Himmler

or this guy?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Heidrich

[The Norse Hordes]

or this guy?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Heidrich

He basically authored the Final Solution.

[Odhinnia]

Why do we even care, Hitler wasn't the First Germanic Person to hate jews and the Holocaust wasn't the first Massacre of European Jews at the hands of Mostly German(ic) people. The Jews were blamed for the "Black Death" and killed in mass numbers... Burned alive even, and That started in Germanic States. At least the Nazis typically killed them before putting them in the furnaces. I believe burning to death to be the worst death possible. Or we could talk about the Roman Persecution and Slaughter of the Jews.

And yet we Praise the Roman Culture for all these advances we have in society... But We never give thanks to Nazis for all kinds of things they did for us. There was a woman removed from a talk-show in Germany because she simply said "Hitler built the Autobahn" and now there is a german joke "Autobahn, That will never do". You can't say anything Positive about the NSDAP in Germany at all (Germany which has little almost no freedom of speech these days). There are Medical Advancements through the Human testing that were made..... that could never have been made in any other way, And today we don't have the stones for Human Testing or Cloning. The Autobahn.... Will conceived under the Weimar, Hilter saw the Importance of this strategically for both military and economic purposes (Something that Eisenhower copied in his presidency of the USA). Jet aircraft? V2 Rockets that were the basis for both the American and Russian space programs?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

On this subject, there has been a lot of speculation. Why did Hitler hate the Jews so much? Truth of the matter is, I don't think he even stated his reasons. Theories on why include that his mother died of cancer and the doctor who treated her was Jewish. Another one is that this was the race that killed Jesus. Another one states that he feared that the Jews were controlling the economy at the time and he had to stop them.

[The Adrian Empire]

Many people would say Adolf Hitler was just crazy and hated Jews. However if yiu think back to Hitlers childhood then you will know that his mother was indeed sick. When she died he found out that his mothers doctor happened to be Jewish. This could of easily caused him To hate Jewish people.

Another reason is that quite frankly he didn't actually hate Jews. Maybe he realized that the German people wanted somebody to blame for all bad things so he chose a minority group which happened to be Jews to blame because nobody would stand up for them and other Germans would think "Oh look he found someone to blame let's join him!"

Therefore Hitler was not just "Crazy" and there was phyciatric reasons. Or like I said he mght of not really hated them and just did it so he could obtain power.

Frankly, I find your willingness to rationalize and take away the personal responsibility of the man that caused the deaths of millions of people to be absolutely abhorrent, and truly disgusting...
Furthermore if the man needed Psychiatric Help, then does that not make him crazy, it's people like you that let murderers and theives back onto the street because in the words of Monty Python "Society's to Blame!"

[Demen]

What a racist, prejudiced, offensive question.



Teach me?

[Vrolondia]

Who cares why, the fact is he killed MANY, MANY Jews.

He also killed Gypsies

And homosexuals. Actualy, he killed around 10 million or so. But the jews were the largest single group of 6 million.

[Ashmoria]

On this subject, there has been a lot of speculation. Why did Hitler hate the Jews so much? Truth of the matter is, I don't think he even stated his reasons. Theories on why include that his mother died of cancer and the doctor who treated her was Jewish. Another one is that this was the race that killed Jesus. Another one states that he feared that the Jews were controlling the economy at the time and he had to stop them.

if hitler were the only one to hate the jews his hatred wouldnt have mattered, no one would have gone along with his genocidal plans.

but europe at the time was very anti-semitic. hatred of the jews was a long standing problem that came to a head in nazi germany.

[Tunizcha]

I theorize that he went to an all-girl school when he was younger, and was one of only 2 boys in that school. And the other boy was handsome, good with the ladies, and Jewish.

[Tech-gnosis]

The bible would be the primary reason an observant Christian society would dislike the Jews. They killed Jesus, amongst many other things. And no, I won't find sources for you. You need to learn these things on your own.

An observant Christian society would realize that Jesus, the 12 apostles, all or nearly all of Jesus' followers while he was alive, and Paul of Tarsus were all Jews. They would also realize that a) that the whole point of the incarnation was so that Jesus would die( and be resurrected) and b) that the reason Christ had to die was because of the sins of all humanity.