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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:55 pm

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Then allow me to ask you this: if your perspective in relationships is that limited (I'm sorry if this sounds bad but it's the truth), why are you throwing around 'shaming others' for sexual conduct so casually? Why were you using the term 'slut' in such a way? What exactly do you TRULY know about relationships, at your age and with such a limited frame of reference (2 high school relationships and the current one)?

I am curious.

First, a correction, 2 serious relationships, including the current one, and a dozen or so highschool relationships. I apologize if my wording is off.

Honestly? Probably left over bitterness from past experiences. It's been about a year, but somedays I still feel pain from it. It was hell, and I think if you put someone through that helll, you deserve shame.


Ok, let me get this straight. You think people should proceed a certain way just on account of what one person may have put you through?

I understand, some relationships end bad and leaves us marked but... honestly? I had a partner that cheated on me with several 16 year old girls. It was humiliating. Still, I never saw and still I don't see the point in 'shaming' people on account of that. You know what works and what is a better slap to the face than calling someone names? Moving on with one's life and being as happy as one can be.
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Postby Hathradic States » Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:56 pm

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Hathradic States wrote:Will do. Though, I admit, confusing people is my third favourite pastime. :P

Is fending off arguments from people who think you disagree with them when you really don't another? :P

Fifth, maybe. The two favourites are hurting bad people and anything I do with Ericka. :)

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Postby Individuality-ness » Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:57 pm

Llamalandia wrote:No I'm not a misogynist.

Yes you are. We can quote you on it.

Llamalandia wrote:But your clearly painting a pretty clear picture of yourself as a misandryst

Please go back through my post and find something I said that is ANYWAY misandric. Go on, I dare you.

Llamalandia wrote:and I say it again a FEMINAZI,

Because attacking a person is better than attacking their arguments, hmm? *roll*

Not to mention a misogynistic, misandric man made up the term, so what does that say about you?

Llamalandia wrote:a feminist who blames all everything bad in the world on men

Patriarchy is made up by men but we've all contributed to it, please look up feminist theory and learn what it is.

Llamalandia wrote:and believes that every little statement that isn't 110% politically correct must have been calculated merely to offend her sensibilities

Or maybe I'm objecting to something that is misogynistic because I'm a decent human being and I want everyone to feel welcomed?

Llamalandia wrote:(or more broadly all women on Earth plus men can be FEMINAZIs as well )

Of course men can be feminists. I never said that they couldn't. And there are women who are anti-feminist, believe it or not.

Llamalandia wrote:of what is appropriate in civil and intellectual discourse.

You're the one resorting to ad hominem. Not me.
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Postby Progressive-Conservative Republics » Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:57 pm

Why do people insist on having the state fund pointless couples?
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Postby Person012345 » Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:57 pm

What the fuck even is a feminazi? Do they want to ship men off to concentration camps and have them gassed to death? That's not the impression I'm getting from indi in this thread, I have to say.

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Postby Hathradic States » Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:57 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:First, a correction, 2 serious relationships, including the current one, and a dozen or so highschool relationships. I apologize if my wording is off.

Honestly? Probably left over bitterness from past experiences. It's been about a year, but somedays I still feel pain from it. It was hell, and I think if you put someone through that helll, you deserve shame.


Ok, let me get this straight. You think people should proceed a certain way just on account of what one person may have put you through?

I understand, some relationships end bad and leaves us marked but... honestly? I had a partner that cheated on me with several 16 year old girls. It was humiliating. Still, I never saw and still I don't see the point in 'shaming' people on account of that. You know what works and what is a better slap to the face than calling someone names? Moving on with one's life and being as happy as one can be.

Very true. Most of the time, I act like that. Sometimes...eh, I'm not perfect, nowhere near. I'll admit that right now. Especially the way I am now, because if I'm lucky won't remember tonights stupidity.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:58 pm

Person012345 wrote:What the fuck even is a feminazi? Do they want to ship men off to concentration camps and have them gassed to death? That's not the impression I'm getting from indi in this thread, I have to say.


That's because Indi is not a feminazi. What you're reading is the rant of someone who, once shown the amount of BS in his post, resorts to name calling.
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Postby The Rich Port » Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:58 pm

Progressive-Conservative Republics wrote:Why do people insist on having the state fund pointless couples?


Every single relationship Kim Kardashian ever had?

Beats me.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:59 pm

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Ok, let me get this straight. You think people should proceed a certain way just on account of what one person may have put you through?

I understand, some relationships end bad and leaves us marked but... honestly? I had a partner that cheated on me with several 16 year old girls. It was humiliating. Still, I never saw and still I don't see the point in 'shaming' people on account of that. You know what works and what is a better slap to the face than calling someone names? Moving on with one's life and being as happy as one can be.

Very true. Most of the time, I act like that. Sometimes...eh, I'm not perfect, nowhere near. I'll admit that right now. Especially the way I am now, because if I'm lucky won't remember tonights stupidity.


Amen. o/

Step away from the computer, boyo. Have a glass of water. :p
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Postby Individuality-ness » Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:59 pm

Person012345 wrote:What the fuck even is a feminazi? Do they want to ship men off to concentration camps and have them gassed to death? That's not the impression I'm getting from indi in this thread, I have to say.

I think Ruth Limbaugh made it up to insult women who have opinions that didn't fit in with his WASP neoconservative narrative.
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Postby Pillea » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:00 am

Hathradic States wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Ok, let me get this straight. You think people should proceed a certain way just on account of what one person may have put you through?

I understand, some relationships end bad and leaves us marked but... honestly? I had a partner that cheated on me with several 16 year old girls. It was humiliating. Still, I never saw and still I don't see the point in 'shaming' people on account of that. You know what works and what is a better slap to the face than calling someone names? Moving on with one's life and being as happy as one can be.

Very true. Most of the time, I act like that. Sometimes...eh, I'm not perfect, nowhere near. I'll admit that right now. Especially the way I am now, because if I'm lucky won't remember tonights stupidity.


They say inebriation shows the truth of a person.
So ya know, the stupid crap you say intoxicated, kinda hints at who you are sometimes.
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Postby Llamalandia » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:00 am

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Llamalandia wrote:No I'm not a misogynist. But your clearly painting a pretty clear picture of yourself as a misandryst and I say it again a FEMINAZI, a feminist who blames all everything bad in the world on men and believes that every little statement that isn't 110% politically correct must have been calculated merely to offend her sensibilities (or more broadly all women on Earth plus men can be FEMINAZIs as well ) of what is appropriate in civil and intellectual discourse. >:(

The fact that you're not only failing to address any specific points, but using the words "misandryst" and "feminazi" (in addition to your earlier issues) suggests that you are definitely a misogynist.


No i'm merely very pissed off and fully willing to use any and all labels to great effect where appropriate. I don't believe all or even most feminists are FEMINAZIs but I believe when you harp on one specific point that's really rather tangential to the discussion at hand "which is marriage is sacred and divorce is bad" then I start to suspect you're quite hyper sensitive about something. Had I said Oh yeah well in my imagined scenario it could only have been a woman coming on to married man because only women are immoral harlots (or something to that effect) then fine sure the misogynist label would be entirely appropriate but, as I said any gender bias in my scenario was inadvertent at worst and that I would happily correct it upon request. Instead all that's happened is everyone has called me a misogynist and I don't appreciate it and feel quite rightly indignant at the accusation and am lashing out appropriately. >:(

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Postby Hathradic States » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:00 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:Very true. Most of the time, I act like that. Sometimes...eh, I'm not perfect, nowhere near. I'll admit that right now. Especially the way I am now, because if I'm lucky won't remember tonights stupidity.


Amen. o/

Step away from the computer, boyo. Have a glass of water. :p

I had coffee. Thinking more clearly and...the fuck did I do? O.o

Well, not the first time I've sobered up and thought that. :P

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Postby Dakini » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:00 am

Person012345 wrote:What the fuck even is a feminazi? Do they want to ship men off to concentration camps and have them gassed to death? That's not the impression I'm getting from indi in this thread, I have to say.

It's either that or misogyn-ese for "someone who dares to suggest that I might have a problem with women".

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Postby Person012345 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:01 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Person012345 wrote:What the fuck even is a feminazi? Do they want to ship men off to concentration camps and have them gassed to death? That's not the impression I'm getting from indi in this thread, I have to say.


That's because Indi is not a feminazi. What you're reading is the rant of someone who, once shown the amount of BS in his post, resorts to name calling.

Yeah, I figured. The word "feminazi" is totally fucking meaningless anyway. I mean, it's basically "you're worse than hitler" in a new form.

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Postby Hathradic States » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:02 am

Pillea wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:Very true. Most of the time, I act like that. Sometimes...eh, I'm not perfect, nowhere near. I'll admit that right now. Especially the way I am now, because if I'm lucky won't remember tonights stupidity.


They say inebriation shows the truth of a person.
So ya know, the stupid crap you say intoxicated, kinda hints at who you are sometimes.

So...I'm normally a happy person who likes making bad pop culture jokes? ''Cause that is my normal drunk activity.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:03 am

Person012345 wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
That's because Indi is not a feminazi. What you're reading is the rant of someone who, once shown the amount of BS in his post, resorts to name calling.

Yeah, I figured. The word "feminazi" is totally fucking meaningless anyway. I mean, it's basically "you're worse than hitler" in a new form.


I think this is the name given by some people to women and men who ascribe to feminism more, militantly? I think.

IN all honesty, what the origin of this is, I don't really know.
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Postby Dakini » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:03 am

Llamalandia wrote:
Dakini wrote:The fact that you're not only failing to address any specific points, but using the words "misandryst" and "feminazi" (in addition to your earlier issues) suggests that you are definitely a misogynist.


No i'm merely very pissed off and fully willing to use any and all labels to great effect where appropriate. I don't believe all or even most feminists are FEMINAZIs but I believe when you harp on one specific point that's really rather tangential to the discussion at hand "which is marriage is sacred and divorce is bad" then I start to suspect you're quite hyper sensitive about something. Had I said Oh yeah well in my imagined scenario it could only have been a woman coming on to married man because only women are immoral harlots (or something to that effect) then fine sure the misogynist label would be entirely appropriate but, as I said any gender bias in my scenario was inadvertent at worst and that I would happily correct it upon request. Instead all that's happened is everyone has called me a misogynist and I don't appreciate it and feel quite rightly indignant at the accusation and am lashing out appropriately. >:(

Individuality-ness wasn't even replying to your posts in that instance.

What you said back there was definitely sexist. It was my impression that you were perhaps not aware of the sexist implications, but there they were. You could have reacted a few ways, one of which would involve introspection and thinking about what you said and what it means. The other is to start yelling names. You chose the latter.
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Postby Allanea » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:04 am

The people that say "government out of marriage" are usually the ones who are against certain types of marriage.



I am a LGBT libertarian and I in no way resemble that remark.
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Postby Llamalandia » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:04 am

Individuality-ness wrote:
Person012345 wrote:What the fuck even is a feminazi? Do they want to ship men off to concentration camps and have them gassed to death? That's not the impression I'm getting from indi in this thread, I have to say.

I think Ruth Limbaugh made it up to insult women who have opinions that didn't fit in with his WASP neoconservative narrative.


Lol its Rush not "Ruth" but yes I believe that is who originated the term though I'm not certain. Again I have no problem with feminism itself when appropriately critique gender double standards but for the millionth time I was not intentionally trying to imply such standards in my vignette. ;)

Feminazi is a term popularized by radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh and in use since the early 1990s. It is a portmanteau of the nouns feminist and Nazi. The online version of the Merriam-Webster dictionary defines the term as used in a "usually disparaging" manner, to describe "an extreme or militant feminist".[1] The term is used pejoratively[1][2][3][4] by some U.S. conservatives to criticize feminists that they perceive as extreme.[5] from wikipedia.

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Postby The Rich Port » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:04 am

Hathradic States wrote:
Pillea wrote:
They say inebriation shows the truth of a person.
So ya know, the stupid crap you say intoxicated, kinda hints at who you are sometimes.

So...I'm normally a happy person who likes making bad pop culture jokes? ''Cause that is my normal drunk activity.


You're lucky you turn into Dane Cook.

I'm all depressingly introspective when I get drunk. I put on jazz music, smoke a cigar and talk about all of the women that left me.

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Postby Hathradic States » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:05 am

Allanea wrote:
The people that say "government out of marriage" are usually the ones who are against certain types of marriage.



I am a LGBT libertarian and I in no way resemble that remark.

Nor do I. I think it isn't the business of the State who you marry, so long as they give consent.

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Postby Hathradic States » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:06 am

The Rich Port wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:So...I'm normally a happy person who likes making bad pop culture jokes? ''Cause that is my normal drunk activity.


You're lucky you turn into Dane Cook.

I'm all depressingly introspective when I get drunk. I put on jazz music, smoke a cigar and talk about all of the women that left me.

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Or Dave Mustaine, because I also tend to shred better intoxicated.

I've done that before, normally after a breakup. We should drink together sometimes.

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Postby Dakini » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:06 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Person012345 wrote:Yeah, I figured. The word "feminazi" is totally fucking meaningless anyway. I mean, it's basically "you're worse than hitler" in a new form.


I think this is the name given by some people to women and men who ascribe to feminism

I'm pretty sure it was basically just a "feminists are worse than Hitler" thing. No feminist identifies this way and it's almost never actually applied to anyone especially radical because radical feminists are pretty rare and the term is used pretty liberally.

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Postby Individuality-ness » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:06 am

Llamalandia wrote:
Dakini wrote:The fact that you're not only failing to address any specific points, but using the words "misandryst" and "feminazi" (in addition to your earlier issues) suggests that you are definitely a misogynist.

No i'm merely very pissed off and fully willing to use any and all labels to great effect where appropriate.

Are you angry because I challenged your usage of words? Or are you angry that I'm espousing an opinion?

Llamalandia wrote:I don't believe all or even most feminists are FEMINAZIs but I believe when you harp on one specific point that's really rather tangential to the discussion at hand "which is marriage is sacred and divorce is bad" then I start to suspect you're quite hyper sensitive about something.

It's called "calling out someone for saying something stupid and offensive". Learn it.

Llamalandia wrote:Had I said Oh yeah well in my imagined scenario it could only have been a woman coming on to married man because only women are immoral harlots

Because "nymphomaniac" doesn't mean sex addict at all, hm? *roll*

Llamalandia wrote:(or something to that effect) then fine sure the misogynist label would be entirely appropriate

It totally was.

Llamalandia wrote:but, as I said any gender bias in my scenario was inadvertent at worst and that I would happily correct it upon request.

Inadvertent? You went out of your way to describe scenario girl as a "nympho". You didn't even bother giving that girl a name.

I can write scenarios too. Unlike you, I do it in a way so that 1. it's gender neutral and 2. I don't shame anyone or otherwise say "oh, that one's obviously a nympho" in my scenarios. Perhaps you should learn how to do that sometime.

Llamalandia wrote:Instead all that's happened is everyone has called me a misogynist

You are.

Llamalandia wrote:and I don't appreciate it

"WAHH, SOMEONE CALLED ME A MISOGYNIST AND SAID THAT I CAN'T CALL WOMEN NYMPHOS!!!11!!"

Llamalandia wrote:and feel quite rightly indignant at the accusation and am lashing out appropriately. >:(

No you're not.
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