Gay marriages....now what about siblings parents or animals?

[Hathradic States]

Almost is the key word. Some, myself among them, have no issue speaking low of both men and women who sleep around. Simply put, now that we are no longer struggling as a species, we should focus on the emotional aspects of sex. Both free love and prudishness are not goods, nor evil. I find the middle ground is the best. Free, fun sex with your chosen partner.

That is their choice, their decision to make. Legislating morality and shaming people for being sexually active is bad, period. The word "slut" itself has connotations connecting it to a woman who is sexually active, and I object to that.

Legislating is bad, but shaming is the duty of society. It keeps us from acting like animals, indulging on our base instincts and pleasures.

[Calixs]

Yes but in the past horny people were more respectful of the bounds of marriage and more often confined the dating to people who you know ... weren't already married.

source?

[YellowApple]

That is their choice, their decision to make. Legislating morality and shaming people for being sexually active is bad, period. The word "slut" itself has connotations connecting it to a woman who is sexually active, and I object to that.

Legislating is bad, but shaming is the duty of society. It keeps us from acting like animals, indulging on our base instincts and pleasures.

Wrong.

Shaming is not the duty of anyone.

[Llamalandia]

I don't know what sort of planet you're living on, but my media and popular opinion rarely depict it as such.

I live on Earth and the sky is blue. What about you?

Asking somebody to face the consequences of their actions? Oh, I'm such bad person.

Then call them a cheater, not a slut.

If one acts like a slut with the intent of acting like a slut (or a player, or a horn-dog, or a jerk, ect.), one should be expected to be labeled as such.

Again, I might as well requote myself.

Because the word "slut" is almost always used to describe a sexually active woman, implying that women shouldn't be sexually active. This feeds into the Madonna/whore binary and is a part of patriarchy.

2. Well, if she actually does consent and go activly goes along with it (Instead of, oh, I don't know, not doing so), then yes, she deserves the title of slut because she acted like one.

Presuming that she even knew that her partner was married in the first place, she would be a cheater. Not a slut.

The word slut shames sexually active women, stop using that term.

I don't see why she should get a special excuse simply because she's a woman.

I'm asking you not to use a word that has negative connotations for women. Why is that so hard to understand?

If she doesn't consent, and she's forced into it... well, then, she's lawded with public and personal support.

You do not live on planet Earth my dear.

When was the last time you saw a rape victeam who wasen't a prostitute get sent to prison? Nobody, because you're almost never blamed for what happens to you that't outside of your control; you're blamed for what you choose to do.

Ha. Ha. Hahahahahaha. No.

1. No one ever deserves to be raped, no matter how the person's dressed, how the person acts, what the person does for a living, how much did that person have to drink, etc. Implying otherwise is rape culture, which is part of patriarchy.
2. You've never heard of victim-blaming then?
3. Or rape culture for that matter?

3. Well... she gets rejected for sex, and then actively pushes for it and exclaims the demand loudly in a public place. It wasn't in the best form, certainly, but its not woman-hating. Its just taking a "Looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, acts like a duck" approch to titling.

He went out and described her as a NYMPHO. You know, sex addict? You know, shaming women for wanting to have sex?

Also, if I might recall, in the opposing scenario presented, the woman never specifically brought up sex. The man did. Am I to interpret that as you calling all men horn-dogs, and thus you being man-hater? No, I would not, because I understand that, for the sake of these scenario's to work, somebody has to be the "bad party". If both were good parties, this wouldn't even happen. Its a matter of using commonly-used phrases and setting up a scenario without walking on the eggshells of political correctness; not active hatred.

The scenario would never happen anyway; it's completely unrealistic.

"Nympho" isn't commonly used in place of "horny", by the way. It's only used to shame women for being sexually active. Patriarchy.

Ok, you know what I've been pretty deferential here, but quite frankly I don't like it when people call me misogynistic when all I'm trying to say is I hate divorce a lot (barring obvious exceptions for abusive situations and the like), but quite frankly when people start throwing around gender studies words like patriarchy and Maddonna/whore complex I start to get a little suspicious that person might just might be a closed minded FEMINAZI Just because bias against women has been the dominant paradigm doesn't mean you can't also now be biased the other way, but no doubt someone will say I'm merely attacking you now which I'm not I just thought nympho was more pg13 then horny but i guess the mods don't really care too much about actually keeping things all that clean given some of the comments now that I think about it.

[Dakini]

The word slut shames sexually active women, stop using that term.

When women stop hurting men by going out with other men, 'cause their partner's unnecessary harm, I will. Likewise, when men stop doing the same thing to their female partners, I'll stop saying things like man-slut.

Uh... slut shaming is applied to single women who don't have regular partners too.

[Individuality-ness]

1. Because only women are shamed for being sluts.
2. How is having sex uncivilized? Right now we're the most civilized we've been and people are having sex more freely and with greater emphasis on mutual enjoyment than ever. Back when someone was making up the 10 commandments, people were only trying to have sex to have babies and these same people didn't even have sanitation systems.

1. Men and women should both be shamed equal for being sluts (or playboys)

No, because slut shaming is bad. It's not our business to know how many sexual partners a person has had.

2. Sex leads to children,

Unless you're using birth control. Unless you have an abortion. Unless you're infertile/sterilized. Etc.

cavalier sex leads to children who don't even know their own father's name.

Because all men want to do is fuck and run, amirite? That's misandry.

I believe this bad. Safe sex is ok, but the best thing is sex inside a committed relationship (doesn't have to be marriage.)

Let people make their own decisions and find happiness in their own ways, you're not in charge of our sex lives.

Also God made the 10 commandments not just some random woman or man.

[source]

[Anachronous Rex]

The word slut shames sexually active women, stop using that term.

When women stop hurting men by going out with other men, 'cause their partner's unnecessary harm, I will. Likewise, when men stop doing the same thing to their female partners, I'll stop saying things like man-slut.

Which is why I'm turning it into a term of endearment.

Where is your shame now?

[Individuality-ness]

The word slut shames sexually active women, stop using that term.

When women stop hurting men by going out with other men, 'cause their partner's unnecessary harm, I will. Likewise, when men stop doing the same thing to their female partners, I'll stop saying things like man-slut.

Or maybe you should stop caring about what other people want to do with their sex lives, okay?

[Llamalandia]

Legislating is bad, but shaming is the duty of society. It keeps us from acting like animals, indulging on our base instincts and pleasures.

Wrong.

Shaming is not the duty of anyone.

Actually i disagree. You can't actually prosecute a potential pedophile for merely photographing children but society should certainly shame and identify potential pedophiles for the purposes of keeping children safe. Of course there is a fine line between mob justice and simple societal corrections via a shame mechanism. Heck look at Japan though the whole country is built on shame and face saving.

[Pillea]

Yes but in the past horny people were more respectful of the bounds of marriage and more often confined the dating to people who you know ... weren't already married.

source?

It's a little known book called Intro Colum Meum Vide by Merda Tauri.

[Hathradic States]

When women stop hurting men by going out with other men, 'cause their partner's unnecessary harm, I will. Likewise, when men stop doing the same thing to their female partners, I'll stop saying things like man-slut.

Uh... slut shaming is applied to single women who don't have regular partners too.

I am well aware. That, I disagree with, as I said.

[Anachronous Rex]

Wrong.

Shaming is not the duty of anyone.

Actually i disagree. You can't actually prosecute a potential pedophile for merely photographing children but society should certainly shame and identify potential pedophiles for the purposes of keeping children safe. Of course there is a fine line between mob justice and simple societal corrections via a shame mechanism. Heck look at Japan though the whole country is built on shame and face saving.

Yeah, and Japan is clearly our go-to example when it comes to normal and reasonable sexual behavior...

[Llamalandia]

When women stop hurting men by going out with other men, 'cause their partner's unnecessary harm, I will. Likewise, when men stop doing the same thing to their female partners, I'll stop saying things like man-slut.

Or maybe you should stop caring about what other people want to do with their sex lives, okay?

The point is married persons have a right and reasonable expectation to NOT be hit on by people.

[Dakini]

1. Because only women are shamed for being sluts.
2. How is having sex uncivilized? Right now we're the most civilized we've been and people are having sex more freely and with greater emphasis on mutual enjoyment than ever. Back when someone was making up the 10 commandments, people were only trying to have sex to have babies and these same people didn't even have sanitation systems.

1. Bullshit. Men can get just as much shit for it.
2. It is not. Partaking of multiple sexual partners causes distress and pain, and therefor harmful to either yourself, or others.

1. No, usually men who sleep around are described in positive terms.
2. Having a single sexual partner can cause distress and pain. I was never more miserable in my life than when I was in a shitty relationship that lasted way too long. Was I sleeping with a lot of people? No, only the one.

[Llamalandia]

Actually i disagree. You can't actually prosecute a potential pedophile for merely photographing children but society should certainly shame and identify potential pedophiles for the purposes of keeping children safe. Of course there is a fine line between mob justice and simple societal corrections via a shame mechanism. Heck look at Japan though the whole country is built on shame and face saving.

Yeah, and Japan is clearly our go-to example when it comes to normal and reasonable sexual behavior...

good point

[Dakini]

Or maybe you should stop caring about what other people want to do with their sex lives, okay?

The point is married persons have a right and reasonable expectation to NOT be hit on by people.

Uh... the existence of divorce doesn't make this any more or less likely, you know.

[Hathradic States]

When women stop hurting men by going out with other men, 'cause their partner's unnecessary harm, I will. Likewise, when men stop doing the same thing to their female partners, I'll stop saying things like man-slut.

Or maybe you should stop caring about what other people want to do with their sex lives, okay?

Look, when two people are in a relationship, and then one of the people goes out and screws around with someone outside of the relationship, they should be shamed. They caused harm to their partner. It is no different than someone physically hurting someone.

[The Rich Port]

Or maybe you should stop caring about what other people want to do with their sex lives, okay?

The point is married persons have a right and reasonable expectation to NOT be hit on by people.

If they don't wear wedding rings and their spouses aren't around, you can't really tell who's married and who's not.

[Pillea]

Or maybe you should stop caring about what other people want to do with their sex lives, okay?

Look, when two people are in a relationship, and then one of the people goes out and screws around with someone outside of the relationship, they should be shamed. They caused harm to their partner. It is no different than someone physically hurting someone.

My partner has explicit permission to do just that. It doesn't cause any harm to me.

Your morals and convictions =/= those of everyone.

[Individuality-ness]

Ok, you know what I've been pretty deferential here, but quite frankly I don't like it when people call me misogynistic

But you are misogynistic.

when all I'm trying to say is I hate divorce a lot

Which isn't your business and doesn't affect you in any way. Don't like it? Don't get one.

(barring obvious exceptions for abusive situations and the like)

Because it's easy to prove abuse in court, amirite?

but quite frankly when people start throwing around gender studies words like patriarchy and Maddonna/whore complex I start to get a little suspicious that person might just might be a closed minded FEMINAZI

Did I ever make my feminism leaning a secret on this forum?

I am a third-wave sex-positive feminist who believes in intersectionality and gender equality!

Just because bias against women has been the dominant paradigm doesn't mean you can't also now be biased the other way,

No one said that. Misogyny and misandry often go hand in hand.

but no doubt someone will say I'm merely attacking you now which I'm not I just thought nympho was more pg13 then horny

You're shitting me, right?

but i guess the mods don't really care too much about actually keeping things all that clean given some of the comments now that I think about it.

You can say horny my dear.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Or maybe you should stop caring about what other people want to do with their sex lives, okay?

Look, when two people are in a relationship, and then one of the people goes out and screws around with someone outside of the relationship, they should be shamed. They caused harm to their partner. It is no different than someone physically hurting someone.

If they're in a monogamous relationship, perhaps. It should be left to the discretion of those involved. If they're in an open one, who the fuck cares.

[Hathradic States]

1. Bullshit. Men can get just as much shit for it.
2. It is not. Partaking of multiple sexual partners causes distress and pain, and therefor harmful to either yourself, or others.

1. No, usually men who sleep around are described in positive terms.
2. Having a single sexual partner can cause distress and pain. I was never more miserable in my life than when I was in a shitty relationship that lasted way too long. Was I sleeping with a lot of people? No, only the one.

1. Not in my experience, but that may just be my circle of friends, there.
2. That's when you break it off. But sleeping around because the relationship is shitty, instead of, you know, talking about it with your partner? No, not good. Far from it.

[Dakini]

Uh... slut shaming is applied to single women who don't have regular partners too.

I am well aware. That, I disagree with, as I said.

Well, then you should stick to more specific terms since "slut" has a different meaning, even if you're using a non-standard definition. For instance "cheating piece of shit" (or CPoS for short) is equal opportunity and very descriptive of the type of person you think should be shamed instead of lumping a whole other group of innocent people in.

[Pillea]

The point is married persons have a right and reasonable expectation to NOT be hit on by people.

If they don't wear wedding rings and their spouses aren't around, you can't really tell who's married and who's not.

Didn't you know that when you get married you're constantly followed by Cherubim carrying a "Married to 'so and so'" banner over your head?

[Llamalandia]

1. Bullshit. Men can get just as much shit for it.
2. It is not. Partaking of multiple sexual partners causes distress and pain, and therefor harmful to either yourself, or others.

1. No, usually men who sleep around are described in positive terms.
2. Having a single sexual partner can cause distress and pain. I was never more miserable in my life than when I was in a shitty relationship that lasted way too long. Was I sleeping with a lot of people? No, only the one.

1. I believe it's starting to equal out more now though with both genders taking flak for it.
2. You know who are more miserable though children who are the product of one night stand living with a single mother who HAS to work because she can't get any child support because she doesn't even know the fathers name. That's the real tragedy of wholly unregulated and unprotected sex... well that and stds.