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Postby Tsuntion » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:40 am

Arrakis wrote:What is more important and realistic than siblings, parents and animals is plural marriage.

Myself and two others are in a plural relationship and we all want to be able to marry. But we can't. We support marriage rights for LGBTQ peoples (because we are bi-sexual), but our plural relationship is called unnatural and treated with disgust (once discovered) even by LGBTQ people I thought were our friends. One of my girlfriend's cousins, who is a married lesbian and whose wedding we were invited to, afterwards called our relationship "disturbing" and later said plural relationships should never be granted marriage.

What about our rights? :(


Your rights are important and I support them. However, there are more legal issues with redesigning how marriages and divorces and so on work when trying to legalise plural marriages than for couples getting married.

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Interesting way of putting it; I had heard such a proposition before, but realising it is just meat makes me more okay with someone having sex with a dead person under those conditions. However, a dead person still can't enter into marriage.
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Postby AiliailiA » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:40 am

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Why? don't you trust me? 8)


I just don't want to accidentally walk into the wrong room, hit the light switch and get fried.

And no, I don't trust you. You seem like the sort of person who would have a room-sized microwave oven in your house. :lol:
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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:41 am

Ailiailia wrote:
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Why? don't you trust me? 8)


I just don't want to accidentally walk into the wrong room, hit the light switch and get fried.

And no, I don't trust you. You seem like the sort of person who would have a room-sized microwave oven in your house. :lol:


My microwave is only used for the vitally challenged. You'd be OK.
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Postby Person012345 » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:43 am

The New Earth Coalition wrote:
Meryuma wrote:Places with legal bestiality, polygamy and incest often tend to be places that also oppose gay marriage.


Actually, thats not true...

Its actually the opposite. Places with illegal bestiality, polygamy, and incest tend to be the places that oppose gay marriage. Places that have legal all of the above tend to be openly homosexual-suuportive.

Although it's worth noting that the places where raping children is most acceptable are pretty homophobic (those being the highly traditional islamic countries in the middle east and asia and christian countries in africa). Although I'm not aware that it's -legal- in those places, it's certainly practiced culturally far more than elsewhere.

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Postby The New Earth Coalition » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:45 am

Person012345 wrote:
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Actually, thats not true...

Its actually the opposite. Places with illegal bestiality, polygamy, and incest tend to be the places that oppose gay marriage. Places that have legal all of the above tend to be openly homosexual-suuportive.

Although it's worth noting that the places where raping children is most acceptable are pretty homophobic (those being the highly traditional islamic countries in the middle east and asia and christian countries in africa). Although I'm not aware that it's -legal- in those places, it's certainly practiced culturally far more than elsewhere.


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Postby AiliailiA » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:54 am

Tsuntion wrote:
Arrakis wrote:What is more important and realistic than siblings, parents and animals is plural marriage.

Myself and two others are in a plural relationship and we all want to be able to marry. But we can't. We support marriage rights for LGBTQ peoples (because we are bi-sexual), but our plural relationship is called unnatural and treated with disgust (once discovered) even by LGBTQ people I thought were our friends. One of my girlfriend's cousins, who is a married lesbian and whose wedding we were invited to, afterwards called our relationship "disturbing" and later said plural relationships should never be granted marriage.

What about our rights? :(


Your rights are important and I support them. However, there are more legal issues with redesigning how marriages and divorces and so on work when trying to legalise plural marriages than for couples getting married.


I second this. To provide marriage equality to marriages of more than two people, existing laws about marriage would need to be rewritten changing the contract of existing marriages. It's not simple at all.

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Interesting way of putting it; I had heard such a proposition before, but realising it is just meat makes me more okay with someone having sex with a dead person under those conditions. However, a dead person still can't enter into marriage.


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Postby Blekksprutia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:55 am

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Postby Samuraikoku » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:15 am

Cosara wrote:In about 10 years, when the Supreme Court takes up the cases of Bestiality, Sibling Marriage and Parent Child marriages, I am sure there will be more people on this forum protecting the traditional definition (If the Supreme Court rules DOMA and Prop. 8 unconstitutional, it will be this: Between two unrelated adult humans)


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Postby Zottistan » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:16 am

Siblings, sure. Parents, as long as the kid is over 18, why not? Animals, no. They can't consent.
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Postby Tekania » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:40 am

Foraiteo wrote:(Image)

hooray for incest.


I'd have to question the accuracy of that map..... Virginia there is in green, and yet incest is illegal..... it's part of the provisions of our adultery and fornication statute, it's a class 5 felony unless it's an adult on minor incest situation where it's a class 3 felony.
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:41 am

Tekania wrote:
Foraiteo wrote:(Image)

hooray for incest.


I'd have to question the accuracy of that map..... Virginia there is in green, and yet incest is illegal..... it's part of the provisions of our adultery and fornication statute, it's a class 5 felony unless it's an adult on minor incest situation where it's a class 3 felony.

My guess is that the green states allow cousins to marry.
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Postby Thafoo » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:49 am

You can't equate gay marriage to incest or bestiality... because gay marriage isn't wrong. :palm:

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Postby Samuraikoku » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:51 am

Thafoo wrote:You can't equate gay marriage to incest or bestiality... because gay marriage isn't wrong. :palm:


These slippery slope people have failed the Emperor.

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Postby Thafoo » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:52 am

Samuraikoku wrote:
Thafoo wrote:You can't equate gay marriage to incest or bestiality... because gay marriage isn't wrong. :palm:


These slippery slope people have failed the Emperor.

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Postby L Ron Cupboard » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:55 am

I thought the US might go for allowing people to marry their cars or guns first.
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Postby Thafoo » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:58 am

L Ron Cupboard wrote:I thought the US might go for allowing people to marry their cars or guns first.

People in the US can already marry their weapons. They're called telumsexuals.

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Postby Arglorand » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:59 am

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L Ron Cupboard wrote:I thought the US might go for allowing people to marry their cars or guns first.

People in the US can already marry their weapons. They're called telumsexuals.

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Postby Tekania » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:28 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Tekania wrote:
I'd have to question the accuracy of that map..... Virginia there is in green, and yet incest is illegal..... it's part of the provisions of our adultery and fornication statute, it's a class 5 felony unless it's an adult on minor incest situation where it's a class 3 felony.

My guess is that the green states allow cousins to marry.


Cousin marriage isn't incest... at least in most of modern western soceity who have accepted modern genetics..... can't speak for those flat-earthers in Kansas.
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:29 am

Tekania wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:My guess is that the green states allow cousins to marry.


Cousin marriage isn't incest... at least in most of modern western soceity who have accepted modern genetics..... can't speak for those flat-earthers in Kansas.

I agree, but that might be what what's his face meant.
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Postby Thafoo » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:29 am

Tekania wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:My guess is that the green states allow cousins to marry.


Cousin marriage isn't incest... at least in most of modern western soceity who have accepted modern genetics..... can't speak for those flat-earthers in Kansas.

*cough I'M FROM KANSAS AND IT'S QUITE HILLY ACTUALLY cough*

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Thafoo wrote:Every time I see your flag, I always know that it's going to be your WH40K reference :p


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Postby Czechanada » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:30 am

A textbook example of the logical fallacy of the slippery slope.
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:31 am

Thafoo wrote:
Tekania wrote:
Cousin marriage isn't incest... at least in most of modern western soceity who have accepted modern genetics..... can't speak for those flat-earthers in Kansas.

*cough I'M FROM KANSAS AND IT'S QUITE HILLY ACTUALLY cough*

"Flat-earther" doesn't ... oh, never mind. And you should have that cough looked at.
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Postby Thafoo » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:33 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Thafoo wrote:*cough I'M FROM KANSAS AND IT'S QUITE HILLY ACTUALLY cough*

"Flat-earther" doesn't ... oh, never mind. And you should have that cough looked at.

It's a common cold ;)

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Postby Hockenberg » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:33 am

Fuck marriage.
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