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Postby AiliailiA » Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:54 am

Wow, an actual rant. I didn't know I still had it in me. :)
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Postby Divair » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:31 am

Can all parties involved give consent? If yes, who cares. If no, then keep it illegal.





There. That was easy.

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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:43 am

Justice Scalia is that you ?
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Postby Lyassa and Nairoa » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:45 am

Divair wrote:Can all parties involved give consent? If yes, who cares. If no, then keep it illegal.





There. That was easy.


Master : "Here, Spot ! Come give Master a lick, you want it ?"
Spot :"Woof!"
Master : "Good dog. Glad you like it."

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Postby Arglorand » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:48 am

Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:
Divair wrote:Can all parties involved give consent? If yes, who cares. If no, then keep it illegal.





There. That was easy.


Master : "Here, Spot ! Come give Master a lick, you want it ?"
Spot :"Woof!"
Master : "Good dog. Glad you like it."

Because that is totally not a rape.
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Postby Lyassa and Nairoa » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:52 am

Arglorand wrote:
Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:
Master : "Here, Spot ! Come give Master a lick, you want it ?"
Spot :"Woof!"
Master : "Good dog. Glad you like it."

Because that is totally not a rape.


It´s not consent either. But what do I know ? I don´t know enough LGBT stuff to be dog-matic.

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Postby Blekksprutia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:53 am

Two siblings having a child would very likely result in the child having malformities and/or defects. I'm not even going to go into what Human/Bonobo intercourse would bring...mostly because I don't think it's good form to talk about the results of bestiality on NSG. Homosexual intercourse, except for various religious reasons, won't cause any defects in a child for obvious reasons.

There is no direct harm by homosexuality. By bestiality and incest, there is.
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Postby Arglorand » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:54 am

Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:
Arglorand wrote:Because that is totally not a rape.


It´s not consent either. But what do I know ? I don´t know enough LGBT stuff to be dog-matic.

It's obviously not consent. My previous statement was sarcastic.
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Postby Hackleberry Islands » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:54 am

Personally, I support gay marriage, but inter-family relationships (brother marrying sister) do seem extreme.
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Postby Foraiteo » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:56 am

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hooray for incest.

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Postby Valcouria » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:56 am

Blekksprutia wrote:Two siblings having a child would very likely result in the child having malformities and/or defects. I'm not even going to go into what Human/Bonobo intercourse would bring...mostly because I don't think it's good form to talk about the results of bestiality on NSG. Homosexual intercourse, except for various religious reasons, won't cause any defects in a child for obvious reasons.

There is no direct harm by homosexuality. By bestiality and incest, there is.

Homosexuality cannot result in a child...bodily functions won't allow it.
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Postby AiliailiA » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:57 am

greed and death wrote:Justice Scalia is that you ?


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Postby Arglorand » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:57 am

Valcouria wrote:
Blekksprutia wrote:Two siblings having a child would very likely result in the child having malformities and/or defects. I'm not even going to go into what Human/Bonobo intercourse would bring...mostly because I don't think it's good form to talk about the results of bestiality on NSG. Homosexual intercourse, except for various religious reasons, won't cause any defects in a child for obvious reasons.

There is no direct harm by homosexuality. By bestiality and incest, there is.

Homosexuality cannot result in a child...bodily functions won't allow it.

So?
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:57 am

Foraiteo wrote:

hooray for incest.

Define "incest" in the context of that map, please.
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Postby Blekksprutia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:59 am

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Postby Cosara » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:00 am

In about 10 years, when the Supreme Court takes up the cases of Bestiality, Sibling Marriage and Parent Child marriages, I am sure there will be more people on this forum protecting the traditional definition (If the Supreme Court rules DOMA and Prop. 8 unconstitutional, it will be this: Between two unrelated adult humans)
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:02 am

Cosara wrote:In about 10 years, when the Supreme Court takes up the cases of Bestiality, Sibling Marriage and Parent Child marriages, I am sure there will be more people on this forum protecting the traditional definition (If the Supreme Court rules DOMA and Prop. 8 unconstitutional, it will be this: Between two unrelated adult humans)

Bestiality, as has been explained to you more than once, is not possible as animals cannot give informed consent. Minor children cannot, either.
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Postby Lyassa and Nairoa » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:03 am

Valcouria wrote:
Blekksprutia wrote:Two siblings having a child would very likely result in the child having malformities and/or defects. I'm not even going to go into what Human/Bonobo intercourse would bring...mostly because I don't think it's good form to talk about the results of bestiality on NSG. Homosexual intercourse, except for various religious reasons, won't cause any defects in a child for obvious reasons.

There is no direct harm by homosexuality. By bestiality and incest, there is.

Homosexuality cannot result in a child...bodily functions won't allow it.


Some gays...they don´t call us "breeders" for nothing.

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Postby Arglorand » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:03 am

Cosara wrote:In about 10 years, when the Supreme Court takes up the cases of Bestiality, Sibling Marriage and Parent Child marriages, I am sure there will be more people on this forum protecting the traditional definition (If the Supreme Court rules DOMA and Prop. 8 unconstitutional, it will be this: Between two unrelated adult humans)

Are you deaf? Bestiality is not a legit analogy because it's impossible to get consent out of an animal. Unless you want to legalize rape and consentless marriages between humans first.
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Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

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Postby Eaglleia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:07 am

Siblings, parents, If that is their wish, I suppose so. Animals cannot give consent, however.

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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:07 am

Eaglleia wrote:Siblings, parents, If that is their wish, I suppose so. Animals cannot give consent, however.

Not minor children, though.
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Postby Valcouria » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:08 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Cosara wrote:In about 10 years, when the Supreme Court takes up the cases of Bestiality, Sibling Marriage and Parent Child marriages, I am sure there will be more people on this forum protecting the traditional definition (If the Supreme Court rules DOMA and Prop. 8 unconstitutional, it will be this: Between two unrelated adult humans)

Bestiality, as has been explained to you more than once, is not possible as animals cannot give informed consent. Minor children cannot, either.

Children can give consent, but the law says they cannot. Laws can be changed on whims like this.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:09 am

A dog can't consent to marriage.
A minor can't consent to marriage.

Not sure about sibling marriage.
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Postby Divair » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:10 am

Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:
Divair wrote:Can all parties involved give consent? If yes, who cares. If no, then keep it illegal.





There. That was easy.


Master : "Here, Spot ! Come give Master a lick, you want it ?"
Spot :"Woof!"
Master : "Good dog. Glad you like it."

Except animals cannot give consent. What a failure of a shitty argument.

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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:11 am

Valcouria wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Bestiality, as has been explained to you more than once, is not possible as animals cannot give informed consent. Minor children cannot, either.

Children can give consent, but the law says they cannot. Laws can be changed on whims like this.

Good luck getting the laws on this changed.
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Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
RIP Dyakovo ... Ashmoria (Freedom ... or cake)
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