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7 days or Big Bang?

God created the world on 7 days
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The bigbang created the world
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I am open to various hypothesis
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Postby Brandon Nicksich » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:47 am

I mean seriously are all you people atheist I am very religious and i believe that god created the world in 7 days.

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Postby Freiheit Reich » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:48 am

Frisivisia wrote:
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Nope, he has not shown any special talents and skills. Signing pieces of paper and repeating what a speech writer tells you to say is not a special talent. Being a successful major league player is harder (yes, there are more but only because there are more spots available). We also have hundreds of politicians at lower levels that do the same things but on a smaller scale.

Most powerful person is debateable. Kim Jong Un has more power. If Obama orders his child killed than he will likely go to jail. Kim Jong Un can order 100 children killed for no reasonable reason and he will still be in his leadership role.

Obama has to deal with checks and balances. Dictators don't.

The USA has more power but it is not in the hands of 1 man. The president also has to follow most of the laws everybody else does.

Obama is still the most powerful person in the world. He is the leader of a world hegemony. Kim Jong Un is a tinpot dictator that no one likes. Obama has command of hundreds of nukes, Kim doesn't have control of the one he has.


Can Obama launch those nukes by himself? What if he wants to attack Texas for voting against him? Can anybody stop him? If so he does not have 100% power and is not a god.

God doesn't need anybodys help when he decides to wipe out a town in Indonesia with a tsunami.
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Postby Helito » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:49 am

Brandon Nicksich wrote:I mean seriously are all you people atheist I am very religious and i believe that god created the world in 7 days.

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Postby Azurand » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:49 am

Brandon Nicksich wrote:I mean seriously are all you people atheist I am very religious and i believe that god created the world in 7 days.

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Postby Freiheit Reich » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:50 am

Frisivisia wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:Yes, exactly and a good analogy.

God is a tough father. Not many fathers will create diseases that kill their children. Most fathers will try to save their children from dangerous animals/insects instead of creating trillions of them to hurt and kill their children. Should we hate God? No, he also created good things as well and he gave us life.

God loves us BUT also wants to make life hard so we aren't spoiled. His will is not always understandable.

God sounds like a pretty fucking major dick.


As I said, we can't fully understand his will.

remember, he gave us nice things like dogs (most are nice), rabbits, and orange trees. Many of the things he made are great and useful. We owe our lives to him.
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Postby Helito » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:52 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:God sounds like a pretty fucking major dick.


As I said, we can't fully understand his will.

remember, he gave us nice things like dogs (most are nice), rabbits, and orange trees. Many of the things he made are great and useful. We owe our lives to him.


I don't know why these people are still discussing this with you. All they need to do is take a quick look at your nation's motto “Prosperity through rewarding ability and reason” and know you are just fucking with them, lol.
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:53 am

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Brandon Nicksich wrote:I mean seriously are all you people atheist I am very religious and i believe that god created the world in 7 days.

Welcome to the real world Mr Troll

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Postby Jamzmania » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:53 am

What's more unbelievable: a spec of matter suddenly exploded for seemingly no reason and created everything ever?

Or intelligent design?
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:54 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:God sounds like a pretty fucking major dick.


As I said, we can't fully understand his will.

remember, he gave us nice things like dogs (most are nice), rabbits, and orange trees. Many of the things he made are great and useful. We owe our lives to him.

How do you keep breaking the thread pages?

And if Yahweh were a human father his children would be taken away from him so fast his head would spin. "A tough father," my paleolithic ass.
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Postby Chile and Argentina » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:54 am

While I am a Christian, I looked at something. Could God have made the big bang happen? (which by the way has a couple of things that could hint at it but has no actual proof which is why it is till a theory) The Hebrew translation of days means eons in English. (or something similar to that) So, seven days could be seven eons, which is more than enough time for the big bang to happen. It's still hard to say though. Many scientiffic studies in the past that we thought were true by all means and indiputable have been proven wrong. We still know almost nothing about the universe.

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Postby Parhe » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:54 am

How sure are people of the big bang? Not being much smart in the subject I do not know so in the poll I picked the third option believing maybe there is possibly something besides the Big Bang. I pretty much doubt a God created the world in seven days but if somehow Gods reveals itself to exist, shows it is all powerful not limited by the universe and science, and admits to have made the world in seven days then I will believe. Such a God could have planted "evidence" to support the Big Bang for whatever reason.

Anyway, again, so yeah, I picked the third option not knowing what percent sure scientists are in this Big Bang. Though it seems by the poll most of NSG strongly believes in the Big Bang only.
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:55 am

Jamzmania wrote:What's more unbelievable: a spec of matter suddenly exploded for seemingly no reason and created everything ever?

Or intelligent design?

Please provide evidence for intelligent design. Oh, and "we can't explain it" is not evidence, just so you know.
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Postby Immoren » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:56 am

Brandon Nicksich wrote:I mean seriously are all you people atheist I am very religious and i believe that god created the world in 7 days.

I say that World was created when Cosmic Eggs, laid by a water bird on a knee of Maiden of Aether, fell into Primordial Ocean and shattered.
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Postby Coenston » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:58 am

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Immoren wrote:Who did he bang to create this mess?


Your mum


:rofl:

You are devilishly witty to crack up a joke like this. Haven't laugh this hard lately. :)
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Postby Khadgar » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:58 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:
As I said, we can't fully understand his will.

remember, he gave us nice things like dogs (most are nice), rabbits, and orange trees. Many of the things he made are great and useful. We owe our lives to him.

How do you keep breaking the thread pages?

And if Yahweh were a human father his children would be taken away from him so fast his head would spin. "A tough father," my paleolithic ass.


He's really really horrible at using all the tags he like using.

As for god, if I treated my dogs the way he treats his "children" the ASPCA would have my ass locked up.

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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:58 am

Coenston wrote:
Blouman Empire wrote:
Your mum


:rofl:

You are devilishly witty to crack up a joke like this. Haven't laugh this hard lately. :)

"Your mum" made you fall on the floor? You need to get out more.
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Postby Kalosia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:00 am

Are you sure the Bible said it was 7 earth days?
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Postby Helito » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:00 am

Jamzmania wrote:What's more unbelievable: a spec of matter suddenly exploded for seemingly no reason and created everything ever?

Or intelligent design?


Here comes the religious involving the OR argument.

The Big Bang theory is not perfect. Our knowledge of the universe is not perfect. It is expanding, and our theories will improve over time.

Intelligent Design, and the "God-Made-Everything" theory have NO SCRAP of anything to support them. Realistic theories being imperfect, such as the Big Bang theory does not grant any credibility to these religious theories.
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:01 am

Kalosia wrote:Are you sure the Bible said it was 7 earth days?

Six, really, and the assumption is earth days. There's a lot of tap-dancing by theists when they're pressed, though.
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Postby Parhe » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:02 am

Kalosia wrote:Are you sure the Bible said it was 7 earth days?

People imply it since they take it to mean days in the eyes of the authors which is likely to be Earth days. Not sure there could have been days though depending on when the sun amd earth was made.
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Postby Kalosia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:05 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Kalosia wrote:Are you sure the Bible said it was 7 earth days?

Six, really, and the assumption is earth days. There's a lot of tap-dancing by theists when they're pressed, though.

I asked a religious studies teacher on this once. If I recall correctly he said that it wasn't specifically 6 earth days.

In my beliefs, 1 day in the afterlife = 50,000 earth years. So basically, the definition of time lengths in religious texts, unless explicitly stated, would be open to interpretation.

Also is there something wrong with the layout of this thread or is it just me?
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Postby Parhe » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:06 am

Helito wrote:
Jamzmania wrote:What's more unbelievable: a spec of matter suddenly exploded for seemingly no reason and created everything ever?

Or intelligent design?


Here comes the religious involving the OR argument.

The Big Bang theory is not perfect. Our knowledge of the universe is not perfect. It is expanding, and our theories will improve over time.

Intelligent Design, and the "God-Made-Everything" theory have NO SCRAP of anything to support them. Realistic theories being imperfect, such as the Big Bang theory does not grant any credibility to these religious theories.

But is there no evidence for anything besides the Big Bang? I mean it isn't perfect like you said so there must be some scientific evidence for other beginnigs. Though the poll suggests otherwise with most people here not open to otger ways. I basically was just wondering if there are any other theories with any evidence.
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Postby Frisivisia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:06 am

Kalosia wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Six, really, and the assumption is earth days. There's a lot of tap-dancing by theists when they're pressed, though.

I asked a religious studies teacher on this once. If I recall correctly he said that it wasn't specifically 6 earth days.

In my beliefs, 1 day in the afterlife = 50,000 earth years. So basically, the definition of time lengths in religious texts, unless explicitly stated, would be open to interpretation.

Also is there something wrong with the layout of this thread or is it just me?

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Postby Person012345 » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:06 am

Drane wrote:To everyone who claims there was "nothing" before the big bang, you have absolutely no proof of that. As a matter of fact, we have no proof of any theory on the topic, because we still can't even explain what caused the big bang in the first place. There are dozens of theory out there, ranging from "our universe was created by two colliding universes" (multiverse theory) to "the universe was first one giant superstring" (string theory).

We can't even say if there was time until the big bang and therefore whether the phrase "before the big bang" is even sensible.

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Postby Person012345 » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:07 am

Frisivisia wrote:Someone broke the page.

Helito put a quote half in and half out of a spoiler.

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