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7 days or Big Bang?

God created the world on 7 days
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The bigbang created the world
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I am open to various hypothesis
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Total votes : 777

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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:53 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:7 of his days are probably not the same as 7 of our days. Perhaps it took thousands of years for him to create the world. It is not easy to create such a diverse and awesome project as earth.

I think if he gave it another 1-2 'days' it could have turned out better. He should have made the oceans freshwater and there is no need for deserts that are extremely awful and harsh (like Sahara and Gobi) but deserts like the Sonoran which have a decent amount of life are fine in limited quantities:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonoran_Desert

Creating harsh mountains also goes too far. Nothing should have been made higher than 4,000 meters.

Also, certain creatures like ticks and mosquitos seem to have been made without much thought as to their negative qualities.

God should have taken 9-10 days, things would have turned out better.


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Postby Lost Memories » Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:53 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:7 of his days are probably not the same as 7 of our days. Perhaps it took thousands of years for him to create the world. It is not easy to create such a diverse and awesome project as earth.

I think if he gave it another 1-2 'days' it could have turned out better. He should have made the oceans freshwater and there is no need for deserts that are extremely awful and harsh (like Sahara and Gobi) but deserts like the Sonoran which have a decent amount of life are fine in limited quantities:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonoran_Desert

Creating harsh mountains also goes too far. Nothing should have been made higher than 4,000 meters.

Also, certain creatures like ticks and mosquitos seem to have been made without much thought as to their negative qualities.

God should have taken 9-10 days, things would have turned out better.

The story about humans not living in eden may have its metaphoric meaning about what you said.
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Postby Dremono » Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:58 am

Kaadara wrote:Lots of people disagree on wheter or not god created the world or the big bang.Personally I am more of a Big bang guy because I am abnostic but must religious people depending on their on their religion belive their gods created the world and not the big bang.There is not a lot to prove that the big bang happened ot that gos existed exept the bible wich is not really a reliable source.

so God created the world in 7 days or did the bigbang happened?


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Postby Great Nepal » Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:00 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:7 of his days are probably not the same as 7 of our days. Perhaps it took thousands of years for him to create the world. It is not easy to create such a diverse and awesome project as earth.

I think if he gave it another 1-2 'days' it could have turned out better. He should have made the oceans freshwater and there is no need for deserts that are extremely awful and harsh (like Sahara and Gobi) but deserts like the Sonoran which have a decent amount of life are fine in limited quantities:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonoran_Desert

Creating harsh mountains also goes too far. Nothing should have been made higher than 4,000 meters.

Also, certain creatures like ticks and mosquitos seem to have been made without much thought as to their negative qualities.

God should have taken 9-10 days, things would have turned out better.

I thought god was all-powerful and all knowing? Why did it take him billions of years rather than seconds? Oh and why did he cock up so much unless he was too busy in bed?
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Postby Tsuntion » Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:02 am

Dremono wrote:
Kaadara wrote:Lots of people disagree on wheter or not god created the world or the big bang.Personally I am more of a Big bang guy because I am abnostic but must religious people depending on their on their religion belive their gods created the world and not the big bang.There is not a lot to prove that the big bang happened ot that gos existed exept the bible wich is not really a reliable source.

so God created the world in 7 days or did the bigbang happened?


Yes, I am abnostic, too. :palm:


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Postby Freiheit Reich » Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:10 am

Great Nepal wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:7 of his days are probably not the same as 7 of our days. Perhaps it took thousands of years for him to create the world. It is not easy to create such a diverse and awesome project as earth.

I think if he gave it another 1-2 'days' it could have turned out better. He should have made the oceans freshwater and there is no need for deserts that are extremely awful and harsh (like Sahara and Gobi) but deserts like the Sonoran which have a decent amount of life are fine in limited quantities:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonoran_Desert

Creating harsh mountains also goes too far. Nothing should have been made higher than 4,000 meters.

Also, certain creatures like ticks and mosquitos seem to have been made without much thought as to their negative qualities.

God should have taken 9-10 days, things would have turned out better.

I thought god was all-powerful and all knowing? Why did it take him billions of years rather than seconds? Oh and why did he cock up so much unless he was too busy in bed?


I honestly don't know if he can tell the future (many say he can). I really don't believe this though. He can guess better than us due to knowing what is going on everywhere but I don't think he knows 100%, it would be boring for him if he knew everything.

Ideas take time for all geniuses, I assume Monet took more than 2 minutes to paint his pictures and Beethoven probably took many minutes to create his symphonies. Give God a break, he created the world and has power but it takes time.
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Postby Great Nepal » Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:18 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:I honestly don't know if he can tell the future (many say he can). I really don't believe this though. He can guess better than us due to knowing what is going on everywhere but I don't think he knows 100%, it would be boring for him if he knew everything.

So, it can not be any gods from abrahamic religions at very least, since they all (to my knowledge) claim God to be omniscient.

Freiheit Reich wrote:Ideas take time for all geniuses, I assume Monet took more than 2 minutes to paint his pictures and Beethoven probably took many minutes to create his symphonies. Give God a break, he created the world and has power but it takes time.

We aren't talking about genius. We are talking about omnipotent and omniscient being (atleast for abrahamic religions). If you know everything there is to know and can do everything there is to do, then you should do damn perfect job.
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Postby Brickistan » Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:18 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:I thought god was all-powerful and all knowing? Why did it take him billions of years rather than seconds? Oh and why did he cock up so much unless he was too busy in bed?


I honestly don't know if he can tell the future (many say he can). I really don't believe this though. He can guess better than us due to knowing what is going on everywhere but I don't think he knows 100%, it would be boring for him if he knew everything.

Ideas take time for all geniuses, I assume Monet took more than 2 minutes to paint his pictures and Beethoven probably took many minutes to create his symphonies. Give God a break, he created the world and has power but it takes time.


So what you're saying is that God isn't really all-powerful as he's constrained by such things as time and his own intellect? In that case, why call him God?

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Postby Xanixi » Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:23 am

Poll should say "Big Bang", not "bigbang".

And I go with the Big Bang.

Also:

Can God Create a Mountain He Can't Move?

Then He can't move it, thus not being capable of doing everything. If he can't even move a mountain, how am I to imagine he can create the universe?

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Then He can't make a mountain he can't move, thus not being capable of doing everything. If He can't even make an immovable mountain, how am I to imagine he can create the universe?

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Samu-san, I don't think you can fit the universe in Texas.


Everything's bigger in Texas. Even the universe.

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Postby Immoren » Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:37 am

Creation of the World is explained here in clear text. *nods*
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Ethel mermania wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:7 of his days are probably not the same as 7 of our days. Perhaps it took thousands of years for him to create the world. It is not easy to create such a diverse and awesome project as earth.

I think if he gave it another 1-2 'days' it could have turned out better. He should have made the oceans freshwater and there is no need for deserts that are extremely awful and harsh (like Sahara and Gobi) but deserts like the Sonoran which have a decent amount of life are fine in limited quantities:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonoran_Desert

Creating harsh mountains also goes too far. Nothing should have been made higher than 4,000 meters.

Also, certain creatures like ticks and mosquitos seem to have been made without much thought as to their negative qualities.

God should have taken 9-10 days, things would have turned out better.


i blame the bid speciifications. the old adage is true, you get what you pay for.

You can have it good, fast or cheap. Pick two.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:54 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
i blame the bid speciifications. the old adage is true, you get what you pay for.

You can have it good, fast or cheap. Pick two.


you have no idea how much i use that phrase irl
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Postby Copenhagen Metropolis » Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:56 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:I thought god was all-powerful and all knowing? Why did it take him billions of years rather than seconds? Oh and why did he cock up so much unless he was too busy in bed?


I honestly don't know if he can tell the future (many say he can). I really don't believe this though. He can guess better than us due to knowing what is going on everywhere but I don't think he knows 100%, it would be boring for him if he knew everything.

Ideas take time for all geniuses, I assume Monet took more than 2 minutes to paint his pictures and Beethoven probably took many minutes to create his symphonies. Give God a break, he created the world and has power but it takes time.

lol :roll:

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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:58 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:You can have it good, fast or cheap. Pick two.


you have no idea how much i use that phrase irl

I bet it's on a par with how often I do. :)
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Postby United Republics of Aralon » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:00 am

Galloism wrote:

Well I don't remember it. Do you?

The expansion of the universe? Redshift? Cosmic background radiation? Enthropy? These are just a few.
It is entirely possible that a god created the universe, but there was a big bang, intelligent creation or not.
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Postby The Victorian Empire » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:03 am

Here's an idea:

God created the Big Bang, which created the world in 7 days.

There, no everyone's happy. :)
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Postby Blouman Empire » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:05 am

The Victorian Empire wrote:Here's an idea:

God created the Big Bang, which created the world in 7 days.

There, no everyone's happy. :)


What about those that don't take the creation story literally?
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Postby Pharthan » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:06 am

:ugeek: The "Seven Day" Theory is often regarded by Biblical Scholars and Theists as being an inaccurate term. Original texts do not have a very literal meaning of "day," the best we can find merely means "set period of time." Actual timeframe of this "set period of time," is either unknown or very vague. Someone, somewhere along the line, just picked the word "day" because it was what seemed accurate at the time.

In truth, it could have seven-million, billion, or trillion years. Without anything to truly judge time by, it matters little what scale you perform things on.
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Pharthan wrote::ugeek: The "Seven Day" Theory is often regarded by Biblical Scholars and Theists as being an inaccurate term. Original texts do not have a very literal meaning of "day," the best we can find merely means "set period of time." Actual timeframe of this "set period of time," is either unknown or very vague. Someone, somewhere along the line, just picked the word "day" because it was what seemed accurate at the time.

In truth, it could have seven-million, billion, or trillion years. Without anything to truly judge time by, it matters little what scale you perform things on.
The most educated biblical scholars make allotments for new facts, like true scientists - and laugh in the face of people who just make up theories for their own benefit, like true scientists...
... And like true scientists, many hold the "We weren't there to see it, so we'll never really know until someone that was there tells us."

It's not "we weren't there to see it", it's "there's no proof". We weren't there to see the creation of earth, but we know how it formed from star stuff.
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Postby Immoren » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:14 am

Pharthan wrote::ugeek: The "Seven Day" Theory is often regarded by Biblical Scholars and Theists as being an inaccurate term. Original texts do not have a very literal meaning of "day," the best we can find merely means "set period of time." Actual timeframe of this "set period of time," is either unknown or very vague. Someone, somewhere along the line, just picked the word "day" because it was what seemed accurate at the time.

In truth, it could have seven-million, billion, or trillion years. Without anything to truly judge time by, it matters little what scale you perform things on.
The most educated biblical scholars make allotments for new facts, like true scientists - and laugh in the face of people who just make up theories for their own benefit, like true scientists...
... And like true scientists, many hold the "We weren't there to see it, so we'll never really know until someone that was there tells us."

What "theories"? I think "hypothesis" might be better word. Even then word choice wouldn't probably be fitting.
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Postby Azurand » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:15 am

God created the World through Big Bang.
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