God created the world in 7 days? or Big Bang?

[Freiheit Reich]

Yes they could, I said God kills children. God also tortures some people with cancer. He created diseases such as typhiod, malaria, HIV/AIDS, smallpox, cholera, etc. which have killed millions young and old alike.

God has two sides. I can accept this even though I wish he only showed his kind side.

The real test is not believing God exists. The test is whether you can love him after he kills the dying child.

Do you not understand how moronic, selfish, idiotic and horrible your concept is?
The dying child is a human also.

The child belongs to God first, the parents second. Why do you think Abraham was willing to sacrifice his child to God even though he loved the child?

God can kill children and adults because we belong to him. Why does he sometimes do it in tough ways? To bring us closer to him.

Tragedy brings people closer to God. Why do you think Iraq is more devout than Sweden? Swedish people have easier lives and have gotten spoiled and have forgotten that they should be thanking God for everything they have. Iraqis have a lot of tragedy and they thank God for the positive things they have.

Strange but true. We forget God until we need him. I have been guilty of this as well and I try to thank God when something positive happens (like surviving a plane flight).

[Flaxxony-Setram]

Quite frankly you are a terrible person whom I wish to never meet if you could love the murderer of a child.
That poor indefenceless soul has its entire future snuffed out and you love the force that in your eyes ended its hopeful existence?
I cant beleive you genuinly beleive that because quite frankly I give you far more credit than you give yourself, and if you genuinly beleive that a cosmic entity is going around snuffing the lives of earths citizens then like all moral beings you should declare it your enemy rather than your freind.
I cant beleive how disgusting a thing you wrote... if you genuinly beleive that then you deserve a burden of shame that I hope never gets lifted by your despicable faith.

We love him because we have to. If we don't love him we will possibly be sent to Hell (I am iffy on this idea though but I could imagine God punishing us in the afterlife if we didn't love him while on earth).

Perhaps fear and respect are better words. Like the Sicilian villagers 'loved' the Godfather who could do good and bad within his community.

I think God is satisfied with fear and respect. As long as we recognize his authority and thank him for what he gives us and don't have any other Gods I am guessing he will be pleased.

If sheep are the only ones that go to heaven, send me to hell. He'll would be choc full of my kind of people

[Chinese Regions]

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Slaanesh?

You're not convincing people using that argument.

Just trying to convince people he exists. Whether you love him or not is up to you.

I fear God because I know how much power he has. I also respect God for the same reason. I know God can kill me anytime he wishes just as he can kill you at anytime. We just have to live our lives and hope he lets us live for many more years.

The creation of earth demonstrates his powers.

For the believers of Big Bang without God I challenge you to watch a sunset at a beautiful spot, maybe a beach or mountain. Or maybe go walking in the New England forests on a dry and cool autumn day with leaves of red and gold. Birds singing sweet songs overhead. Or maybe look at and listen to the awesome power of Niagara Falls.

Ask yourselves, can these things be created without a divine being?

Autumn leaves? Thank the plants not god, birds singing? Thank the birds not god.
Sun? not a nice feeling it a boiling desert (well the sun is setting I suppose).
The only way these good things coexist with bad things is God is not benevolent and omnipotent at the same time.

[Soviet-German Dortmund]

Big Bang.

[Flaxxony-Setram]

Do you not understand how moronic, selfish, idiotic and horrible your concept is?
The dying child is a human also.

The child belongs to God first, the parents second. Why do you think Abraham was willing to sacrifice his child to God even though he loved the child?

God can kill children and adults because we belong to him. Why does he sometimes do it in tough ways? To bring us closer to him.

Tragedy brings people closer to God. Why do you think Iraq is more devout than Sweden? Swedish people have easier lives and have gotten spoiled and have forgotten that they should be thanking God for everything they have. Iraqis have a lot of tragedy and they thank God for the positive things they have.

Strange but true. We forget God until we need him. I have been guilty of this as well and I try to thank God when something positive happens (like surviving a plane flight).

Ok now I know you're trolling.

Haha you had me there for a second. I can laugh at me fallin for trolls.

[Seperates]

Do you not understand how moronic, selfish, idiotic and horrible your concept is?
The dying child is a human also.

The child belongs to God first, the parents second. Why do you think Abraham was willing to sacrifice his child to God even though he loved the child?

God can kill children and adults because we belong to him. Why does he sometimes do it in tough ways? To bring us closer to him.

Tragedy brings people closer to God. Why do you think Iraq is more devout than Sweden? Swedish people have easier lives and have gotten spoiled and have forgotten that they should be thanking God for everything they have. Iraqis have a lot of tragedy and they thank God for the positive things they have.

Strange but true. We forget God until we need him. I have been guilty of this as well and I try to thank God when something positive happens (like surviving a plane flight).

...

So we need the child in Omelas to truely be happy?

[Czechanada]

That reminds me of a certain Austrian man.

Leave Mozart out of this.

I was referring to Leopold I.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

Leave Mozart out of this.

I was referring to Leopold I.

Sure you were.

[Chinese Regions]

Do you not understand how moronic, selfish, idiotic and horrible your concept is?
The dying child is a human also.

The child belongs to God first, the parents second. Why do you think Abraham was willing to sacrifice his child to God even though he loved the child?

God can kill children and adults because we belong to him. Why does he sometimes do it in tough ways? To bring us closer to him.

Tragedy brings people closer to God. Why do you think Iraq is more devout than Sweden? Swedish people have easier lives and have gotten spoiled and have forgotten that they should be thanking God for everything they have. Iraqis have a lot of tragedy and they thank God for the positive things they have.

Strange but true. We forget God until we need him. I have been guilty of this as well and I try to thank God when something positive happens (like surviving a plane flight).

If God kills children, and you use the word's kill here so you insist god is responsible not that he is kind but unable, then he is not benevolent in any way.
And god does not reward Iraqis for it at all.

[Anachronous Rex]

Do you not understand how moronic, selfish, idiotic and horrible your concept is?
The dying child is a human also.

The child belongs to God first, the parents second. Why do you think Abraham was willing to sacrifice his child to God even though he loved the child?

Because he understood that god is the sort of asshole who would probably kill the kid anyway, and then do worse things, if he said "no."

God can kill children and adults because we belong to him. Why does he sometimes do it in tough ways? To bring us closer to him.

You catch more flies with honey. Frankly, he could do this a thousand better ways.

Tragedy brings people closer to God. Why do you think Iraq is more devout than Sweden? Swedish people have easier lives and have gotten spoiled and have forgotten that they should be thanking God for everything they have. Iraqis have a lot of tragedy and they thank God for the positive things they have.

Or, you know, they're desperate and willing to try anything... no matter how stupid.

Strange but true. We forget God until we need him. I have been guilty of this as well and I try to thank God when something positive happens (like surviving a plane flight).

Maybe your god just isn't very memorable.

I promise you I have no difficulty conjuring up thoughts of Inanna as I lie awake at night.

[Transhuman Proteus]

We love him because we have to. If we don't love him we will possibly be sent to Hell (I am iffy on this idea though but I could imagine God punishing us in the afterlife if we didn't love him while on earth).

Perhaps fear and respect are better words. Like the Sicilian villagers 'loved' the Godfather who could do good and bad within his community.

I think God is satisfied with fear and respect. As long as we recognize his authority and thank him for what he gives us and don't have any other Gods I am guessing he will be pleased.

That reminds me of a certain Austrian man.

Arnold Schwarzenegger, the fiend!

[Neutraligon]

Do you not understand how moronic, selfish, idiotic and horrible your concept is?
The dying child is a human also.

The child belongs to God first, the parents second. Why do you think Abraham was willing to sacrifice his child to God even though he loved the child?

God can kill children and adults because we belong to him. Why does he sometimes do it in tough ways? To bring us closer to him.

Tragedy brings people closer to God. Why do you think Iraq is more devout than Sweden? Swedish people have easier lives and have gotten spoiled and have forgotten that they should be thanking God for everything they have. Iraqis have a lot of tragedy and they thank God for the positive things they have.

Strange but true. We forget God until we need him. I have been guilty of this as well and I try to thank God when something positive happens (like surviving a plane flight).

No the child does not belong to god any more than one person belongs to another. You really are doing a terrible job of selling god, you know that. All you are doing is making it look like a bigger and bigger ass. Tragedy can bring closer to god, or i can push people away from god. Many people experience a tragedy and wonder how could a god allow this to happen. These people often move further and further away from the idea that god exists. Iraq is more devout not because of tragedy, but because it is either be devout or die. Since people would rather live, they choose to show the appearance of being more devout.

[Individuality-ness]

Guys. We already know that he's going to defend his abusive asshole of a God forever and a day. He doesn't care if we believe, only that he should be allowed to justify doing asshole things like denying LGBT rights and trying to force us to conform. Are you in any way surprised? His conception of the guy is a stand in for himself.

[Anachronous Rex]

Guys. We already know that he's going to defend his abusive asshole of a God forever and a day. He doesn't care if we believe, only that he should be allowed to justify doing asshole things like denying LGBT rights and trying to force us to conform. Are you in any way surprised? His conception of the guy is a stand in for himself.

Frankly, I'm just using him as a platform to make witty comments about how damned stupid his views are.

For fun and profit.

[Czechanada]

Guys. We already know that he's going to defend his abusive asshole of a God forever and a day. He doesn't care if we believe, only that he should be allowed to justify doing asshole things like denying LGBT rights and trying to force us to conform. Are you in any way surprised? His conception of the guy is a stand in for himself.

Frankly, I'm just using him as a platform to make witty comments about how damned stupid his views are.

For fun and profit.

At the end of the day, some god may have made the rainbow.

But humans went and made a double rainbow music video.

Who is omni-potent in that case?

[Freiheit Reich]

Guys. We already know that he's going to defend his abusive asshole of a God forever and a day. He doesn't care if we believe, only that he should be allowed to justify doing asshole things like denying LGBT rights and trying to force us to conform. Are you in any way surprised? His conception of the guy is a stand in for himself.

I am not God. If I was God there would not be cancer or those diseases I mentioned except for bad people that treat others wrongly.

I would attack the bad people directly, not kill their children. I would steralize some people as punishment instead of killing their children later.

Not defending God, just stating facts. You decide how you feel about him.

[Anachronous Rex]

Frankly, I'm just using him as a platform to make witty comments about how damned stupid his views are.

For fun and profit.

At the end of the day, some god may have made the rainbow.

But humans went and made a double rainbow music video.

Who is omni-potent in that case?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mFtG8SSHto

[Anachronous Rex]

Guys. We already know that he's going to defend his abusive asshole of a God forever and a day. He doesn't care if we believe, only that he should be allowed to justify doing asshole things like denying LGBT rights and trying to force us to conform. Are you in any way surprised? His conception of the guy is a stand in for himself.

I am not God. If I was God there would not be cancer or those diseases I mentioned except for bad people that treat others wrongly.

I would attack the bad people directly, not kill their children. I would steralize some people as punishment instead of killing their children later.

Not defending God, just stating facts. You decide how you feel about him.

Well in that case, you are a coward for not standing up to him.

[Seperates]

Guys. We already know that he's going to defend his abusive asshole of a God forever and a day. He doesn't care if we believe, only that he should be allowed to justify doing asshole things like denying LGBT rights and trying to force us to conform. Are you in any way surprised? His conception of the guy is a stand in for himself.

I am not God. If I was God there would not be cancer or those diseases I mentioned except for bad people that treat others wrongly.

I would attack the bad people directly, not kill their children. I would steralize some people as punishment instead of killing their children later.

Not defending God, just stating facts. You decide how you feel about him.

I assume that you claim to be Christian?

How does "Christ crucified" fit into your ideaology?

[Individuality-ness]

Guys. We already know that he's going to defend his abusive asshole of a God forever and a day. He doesn't care if we believe, only that he should be allowed to justify doing asshole things like denying LGBT rights and trying to force us to conform. Are you in any way surprised? His conception of the guy is a stand in for himself.

Frankly, I'm just using him as a platform to make witty comments about how damned stupid his views are.

For fun and profit.

It's just sad, really, that instead of opening his eyes, he chose to shut them tighter and make excuses. That's something an abuse victim would do out of fear that they'd be punished by their abuser if they admitted to the truth.

[Anachronous Rex]

Frankly, I'm just using him as a platform to make witty comments about how damned stupid his views are.

For fun and profit.

It's just sad, really, that instead of opening his eyes, he chose to shut them tighter and make excuses. That's something an abuse victim would do out of fear that they'd be punished by their abuser if they admitted to the truth.

Indeed. Disturbing the parallels between religious fanatics and abused children...

[Individuality-ness]

Guys. We already know that he's going to defend his abusive asshole of a God forever and a day. He doesn't care if we believe, only that he should be allowed to justify doing asshole things like denying LGBT rights and trying to force us to conform. Are you in any way surprised? His conception of the guy is a stand in for himself.

I am not God. If I was God there would not be cancer or those diseases I mentioned except for bad people that treat others wrongly.

I would attack the bad people directly, not kill their children. I would steralize some people as punishment instead of killing their children later.

Not defending God, just stating facts. You decide how you feel about him.

It's called a stand-in character, the author's self-avatar.

And the way you're defending God, it's as if you're the one on trial, so...

[Individuality-ness]

It's just sad, really, that instead of opening his eyes, he chose to shut them tighter and make excuses. That's something an abuse victim would do out of fear that they'd be punished by their abuser if they admitted to the truth.

Indeed. Disturbing the parallels between religious fanatics and abused children...

It's scary. It's me lying to the authorities all over again, only because I already knew that my mother will punish me severely. It's me lying to myself for years and accepting what she said about me without evidence. It's a cycle.

[Anachronous Rex]

I am not God. If I was God there would not be cancer or those diseases I mentioned except for bad people that treat others wrongly.

I would attack the bad people directly, not kill their children. I would steralize some people as punishment instead of killing their children later.

Not defending God, just stating facts. You decide how you feel about him.

It's called a stand-in character, the author's self-avatar.

And the way you're defending God, it's as if you're the one on trial, so...

It could also be a Nietzschean defense mechanism.

The weak, on account of their weakness, feel resentment against the strong. So they imagine a punishment beyond parallel which they inflict upon the strong, by means of a third party. The punishment is so terrible that it allows them to feel remorse for their imagined victims, even pity; and in doing so they reverse the power dynamic in favor of themselves. Now they feel as though it is they who are truly strong.

[Freiheit Reich]

I am not God. If I was God there would not be cancer or those diseases I mentioned except for bad people that treat others wrongly.

I would attack the bad people directly, not kill their children. I would steralize some people as punishment instead of killing their children later.

Not defending God, just stating facts. You decide how you feel about him.

I assume that you claim to be Christian?

How does "Christ crucified" fit into your ideaology?

Christ is the son of God (as we all are). He has special abilities though. He has a pure heart and God allowed him to be killed because he respects free will. The murderers have/will be/are be/being punished.

People today are dying for standing up for God. God allows them to die as well. They will be rewarded in Heaven for their devotion.

Murders are not the fault of God. God gives us free will in this matter. I will blame diseases and cancer on him though.