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7 days or Big Bang?

God created the world on 7 days
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The bigbang created the world
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I am open to various hypothesis
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Postby Transhuman Proteus » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:43 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Samuraikoku wrote:
I do not think the law would care.


Hopefully God will be nice and say "STOP" as you are about to slit your child's throat. If the voice (God or otherwise) fails to say "STOP" you will likely be heading to the 'big house.'

Funny the law won't care even though many of them are Christians and know the story of Abraham. I guess this should please atheists that we have separation of church and state on this issue.


I like to think that it's because, deep down, even Christians know how silly that crap is.

That, and Christians aren't stupid. If they made a "Voice of God defense" they'd never prosecute a single murder, since all murderers could go "God told me to, prove he didn't!"

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Postby Individuality-ness » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:44 am

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Ifreann wrote:As far as I can tell from your posts, God is some class of violent psychopath who revels in torturing humanity.

So Rick Santorum is God?

Nah, he's Jesus.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:44 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Ifreann wrote:If you ever think you hear the voice of God, Satan, or anything else, seek the help of a mental health professional.



And blood.



As far as I can tell from your posts, God is some class of violent psychopath who revels in torturing humanity.


He tortures but loves at the same time.

Sounds pretty insane, yeah.

...He is tough but powerful. The power can't be denied. After all, he created the Earth in 7 days (God days-likely not human calendar days)?.

There is literally no evidence that he did anything of the sort, that he has any power, or that he exists at all.

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Postby Samuraikoku » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:46 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:He tortures but loves at the same time.


http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Slaanesh?

You're not convincing people using that argument.

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Postby Immoren » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:46 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:Anything in the universe traces back to God.

How do you know other Pantheons don't exist? What if Universe was a teamwork of all pantheons of all mythologies of the world?
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Postby Transhuman Proteus » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:47 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Ifreann wrote:If you ever think you hear the voice of God, Satan, or anything else, seek the help of a mental health professional.



And blood.



As far as I can tell from your posts, God is some class of violent psychopath who revels in torturing humanity.


He tortures but loves at the same time. He brought tears of sadness to one mother as he gave the child a deadly cancer and that child died. Another mother got tears of joy as she had a healthy newborn baby. Same day but 2 opposite actions.

He is the bringer of light and darkness.

He is tough but powerful. The power can't be denied. After all, he created the Earth in 7 days (God days-likely not human calendar days)?.

The big bang could have been God doing a major construction project. God is always moving things around. Shooting stars happen but this is because of God. Anything in the universe traces back to God.


Or - God is responsible for none of that. Especially since we know why things go on in the universe and none of it needs a God.

And God gave a child cancer that killed it super quick so the mother could shed tears on the very the same day another mother was crying as she was popping out her own kid? Or he gave it to the kid a while ago so it would die on the same day? Your God is silly either way.

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Postby Lemanrussland » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:47 am

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:People get arrested for doing the things your God allegedly does. What puts him above accountability?

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Because he's God.

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Postby Tsuntion » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:48 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:He tortures but loves at the same time. He brought tears of sadness to one mother as he gave the child a deadly cancer and that child died. Another mother got tears of joy as she had a healthy newborn baby. Same day but 2 opposite actions.


That doesn't make him good and worthy of worship, it makes him even more fucked up. "Hit the other person (in this case, humanity) in one place when they don't want you to but love them in another place or time, and always expect them to love and obey you" is an abusive relationship.

Shooting stars happen but this is because of God.


Shooting stars happen because science.
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:48 am

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:
He tortures but loves at the same time. He brought tears of sadness to one mother as he gave the child a deadly cancer and that child died. Another mother got tears of joy as she had a healthy newborn baby. Same day but 2 opposite actions.


People get arrested for doing the things your God allegedly does. What puts him above accountability?

He is the bringer of light and darkness.


No, that'd be energy, at the most basic level.

He is tough but powerful. The power can't be denied.


Yes it can, because Christianity is not the only world faith and atheism is growing in the West. Why haven't the smitings begun?

After all, he created the Earth in 7 days (God days-likely not human calendar days)?.

The big bang could have been God doing a major construction project. God is always moving things around. Shooting stars happen but this is because of God. Anything in the universe traces back to God.


[citation needed]

Scientific evidence would be appreciated.


Scientific Evidence that God Created Life

http://www.creationism.org/heinze/SciEvidGodLife.htm

http://godandscience.org/youngearth/longdays.html

http://www.keyway.ca/htm2002/sevncrea.htm
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Postby Immoren » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:50 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
People get arrested for doing the things your God allegedly does. What puts him above accountability?



No, that'd be energy, at the most basic level.



Yes it can, because Christianity is not the only world faith and atheism is growing in the West. Why haven't the smitings begun?



[citation needed]

Scientific evidence would be appreciated.


Scientific Evidence that God Created Life

http://www.creationism.org/heinze/SciEvidGodLife.htm

http://godandscience.org/youngearth/longdays.html

http://www.keyway.ca/htm2002/sevncrea.htm


Not biased sources at all.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:50 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
People get arrested for doing the things your God allegedly does. What puts him above accountability?



No, that'd be energy, at the most basic level.



Yes it can, because Christianity is not the only world faith and atheism is growing in the West. Why haven't the smitings begun?



[citation needed]
Scientific evidence would be appreciated.

Scientific Evidence that God Created Life

http://www.creationism.org/heinze/SciEvidGodLife.htm

http://godandscience.org/youngearth/longdays.html

http://www.keyway.ca/htm2002/sevncrea.htm

PEER REVIWED scientific papers, not pseudoscience crap.
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Postby Jessjohnesik » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:51 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
People get arrested for doing the things your God allegedly does. What puts him above accountability?



No, that'd be energy, at the most basic level.



Yes it can, because Christianity is not the only world faith and atheism is growing in the West. Why haven't the smitings begun?



[citation needed]

Scientific evidence would be appreciated.


Scientific Evidence that God Created Life

http://www.creationism.org/heinze/SciEvidGodLife.htm

http://godandscience.org/youngearth/longdays.html

http://www.keyway.ca/htm2002/sevncrea.htm


Bullshit. All of those websites are over-religious sites controlled by uneducated bible-humpers and creationists.
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Postby Czechanada » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:53 am

Why is it so hard for people to search JSTOR or ProQuest or something similar?
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:54 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:http://www.creationism.org/heinze/SciEvidGodLife.htm


That is nothing but conjecture interspersed with "We can't explain it, so God did it!"

http://godandscience.org/youngearth/longdays.html


And? There's no proof there that God created the Universe.

http://www.keyway.ca/htm2002/sevncrea.htm


The summation of that argument is "We exist, so God created us, so he exists".

The statement made without evidence is the middle one, and from that the third is nothing but wishful thinking.
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Postby Tsuntion » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:57 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:Scientific Evidence that God Created Life

http://www.creationism.org/heinze/SciEvidGodLife.htm


Abiogenesis is an understood process which we are busy trying to replicate. No god needed.

http://godandscience.org/youngearth/longdays.html


That's trying to shoehorn the Bible into scientific ideas, not providing evidence that everything leads back to god. Well, none of your links are, really, but I think this one is the most irrelevant in this way.

http://www.keyway.ca/htm2002/sevncrea.htm


I've already posted about that. Your link is not the well-sourced and scientifically accepted document you claim it to be.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:59 am

Czechanada wrote:Why is it so hard for people to search JSTOR or ProQuest or something similar?

Probably because there's nothing on JSTOR or ProQuest supporting the idea that God is totes real and super magic.

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Postby Czechanada » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:01 am

Ifreann wrote:
Czechanada wrote:Why is it so hard for people to search JSTOR or ProQuest or something similar?

Probably because there's nothing on JSTOR or ProQuest supporting the idea that God is totes real and super magic.


Exactly. If they read it, they would learn.
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Postby Alimprad » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:02 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
People get arrested for doing the things your God allegedly does. What puts him above accountability?



No, that'd be energy, at the most basic level.



Yes it can, because Christianity is not the only world faith and atheism is growing in the West. Why haven't the smitings begun?



[citation needed]

Scientific evidence would be appreciated.


Scientific Evidence that God Created Life

http://www.creationism.org/heinze/SciEvidGodLife.htm

http://godandscience.org/youngearth/longdays.html

http://www.keyway.ca/htm2002/sevncrea.htm

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Postby Individuality-ness » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:03 am


Not at all, they're not valid sources, nor do they prove that God was the center of everything.
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:03 am



Not really, no, because the sources are bollocks.
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Postby Transhuman Proteus » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:04 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
People get arrested for doing the things your God allegedly does. What puts him above accountability?



No, that'd be energy, at the most basic level.



Yes it can, because Christianity is not the only world faith and atheism is growing in the West. Why haven't the smitings begun?



[citation needed]

Scientific evidence would be appreciated.


Scientific Evidence that God Created Life

http://www.creationism.org/heinze/SciEvidGodLife.htm

http://godandscience.org/youngearth/longdays.html

http://www.keyway.ca/htm2002/sevncrea.htm


It's a pity God can't create followers that can make their terribly unscientific websites not look ugly and 10 years out of date.

Czechanada wrote:Why is it so hard for people to search JSTOR or ProQuest or something similar?


Because those collections are chock full of actual scientific knowledge that challenge their terribly unscientific ID views.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:04 am

Jessjohnesik wrote:
Alimprad wrote:PWND!

Yes, he was PWND.

It sounds so juvenile, really. "Pwned"? Really?
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Postby Czechanada » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:04 am



I honestly think that people who cite these sources think that they are credible just because they have .org as a domain name.

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