Hadron collider brought down by a bird and a baguette

[RightLeaningChristians]

Woah, woah, woah. Energy whats-it?

[Elgadika]

Shut up.
We are allowed to cling to our doomsday theories.

They are not in fact theories. They are actually hypotheses,since there's no evidence for them.

Tbh I don't have any "doomsday theories/hypotheses" about the LHC. I just don't think it'll ever work as intended.

[Senestrum]

I seem to remember reading somewhere (in the newspaper I think) that the Higgs boson that they're trying to find is so "horrific in nature" that it's discovery in the future is causing problems in the past so as to prevent its discovery. I can't find that anywhere, though.

Yeah... I saw that, and there's absolutely nothing in the science involved to support that. The guys who said that are pretty much getting laughed at by anybody who knows anything about it.

Shut up.
We are allowed to cling to our doomsday theories.

They are not in fact theories. They are actually hypotheses,since there's no evidence for them.

Tbh I don't have any "doomsday theories/hypotheses" about the LHC. I just don't think it'll ever work as intended.

There's no reason it wouldn't. When they had the problems back in the fall of '08 they were already running, they just weren't at full power and they weren't actually colliding anything. There's really no fundamental reason it can't work; it's just a bigger, more powerful version of the myriad other supercolliders out there.

[Elgadika]

I seem to remember reading somewhere (in the newspaper I think) that the Higgs boson that they're trying to find is so "horrific in nature" that it's discovery in the future is causing problems in the past so as to prevent its discovery. I can't find that anywhere, though.

Yeah... I saw that, and there's absolutely nothing in the science involved to support that. The guys who said that are pretty much getting laughed at by anybody who knows anything about it.

Shut up.
We are allowed to cling to our doomsday theories.

They are not in fact theories. They are actually hypotheses,since there's no evidence for them.

Tbh I don't have any "doomsday theories/hypotheses" about the LHC. I just don't think it'll ever work as intended.

There's no reason it wouldn't. When they had the problems back in the fall of '08 they were already running, they just weren't at full power and they weren't actually colliding anything. There's really no fundamental reason it can't work; it's just a bigger, more powerful version of the myriad other supercolliders out there.

Meh, let them do what they feel like. If it works, it works.

[Orinon]

I have lots.
It'll create strange matter that'll convert the rest of the earth to strange matter, killing us all.
It'll create a black hole, sucking the earth in, killing us all.

[The Republic of Lanos]

I seem to remember reading somewhere (in the newspaper I think) that the Higgs boson that they're trying to find is so "horrific in nature" that it's discovery in the future is causing problems in the past so as to prevent its discovery. I can't find that anywhere, though.

Yeah... I saw that, and there's absolutely nothing in the science involved to support that. The guys who said that are pretty much getting laughed at by anybody who knows anything about it.

Shut up.
We are allowed to cling to our doomsday theories.

They are not in fact theories. They are actually hypotheses,since there's no evidence for them.

Tbh I don't have any "doomsday theories/hypotheses" about the LHC. I just don't think it'll ever work as intended.

There's no reason it wouldn't. When they had the problems back in the fall of '08 they were already running, they just weren't at full power and they weren't actually colliding anything. There's really no fundamental reason it can't work; it's just a bigger, more powerful version of the myriad other supercolliders out there.

Meh, let them do what they feel like. If it works, it works.

you mean:
If it works, we're fucked?

[Elgadika]

I seem to remember reading somewhere (in the newspaper I think) that the Higgs boson that they're trying to find is so "horrific in nature" that it's discovery in the future is causing problems in the past so as to prevent its discovery. I can't find that anywhere, though.

Yeah... I saw that, and there's absolutely nothing in the science involved to support that. The guys who said that are pretty much getting laughed at by anybody who knows anything about it.

Shut up.
We are allowed to cling to our doomsday theories.

They are not in fact theories. They are actually hypotheses,since there's no evidence for them.

Tbh I don't have any "doomsday theories/hypotheses" about the LHC. I just don't think it'll ever work as intended.

There's no reason it wouldn't. When they had the problems back in the fall of '08 they were already running, they just weren't at full power and they weren't actually colliding anything. There's really no fundamental reason it can't work; it's just a bigger, more powerful version of the myriad other supercolliders out there.

Meh, let them do what they feel like. If it works, it works.

you mean:
If it works, we're fucked?

Sure, why not.

[Senestrum]

If it works, nothing happens except science advances.

[Kanabia]

Gods telling us something!

That his account's inactive? Some kind of message there I think,

lol, nice one.

[Orinon]

Dude, do you want the world to end because of some nerdy guy in a dark room?
I want it to in when Skynet becomes sentient.

[Senestrum]

If you're going to troll, at least use cool image macros:



only that should be november '09 lol

[RightLeaningChristians]

If you're going to troll, at least use cool image macros:



only that should be november '09 lol

That looks fucking awesome.





I want to blow it up.

[Elgadika]

If you're going to troll, at least use cool image macros:



only that should be november '09 lol

[Orinon]

Meh. I'll let it slide. Cause the picture was slightly amusing.
And, I'm not kidding about the SKynet thing.
The freaking Brits named a defense system that.
Any bets on how long it takes to watch the Terminator movies, then go: "Hmmm...Maybe I should try that."?

[Post-Unity Terra]

I seem to remember reading somewhere (in the newspaper I think) that the Higgs boson that they're trying to find is so "horrific in nature" that it's discovery in the future is causing problems in the past so as to prevent its discovery. I can't find that anywhere, though.

Yeah... I saw that, and there's absolutely nothing in the science involved to support that. The guys who said that are pretty much getting laughed at by anybody who knows anything about it.

Shut up.
We are allowed to cling to our doomsday theories.

They are not in fact theories. They are actually hypotheses,since there's no evidence for them.

Tbh I don't have any "doomsday theories/hypotheses" about the LHC. I just don't think it'll ever work as intended.

There's no reason it wouldn't. When they had the problems back in the fall of '08 they were already running, they just weren't at full power and they weren't actually colliding anything. There's really no fundamental reason it can't work; it's just a bigger, more powerful version of the myriad other supercolliders out there.

Meh, let them do what they feel like. If it works, it works.

you mean:
If it works, we're fucked?

If it works, science happens. I'm sure you've heard dozens of times by now that if the LHC was capable of creating black holes, cosmic rays striking the atmosphere would have created a black hole already.

[Christmahanikwanzikah]

Everything that has gone wrong with the LHC:

On 25 October 2005, a technician was killed in the LHC tunnel when a crane load was accidentally dropped.
On 27 March 2007 a cryogenic magnet support broke during a pressure test involving one of the LHC's inner triplet (focusing quadrupole) magnet assemblies, provided by Fermilab and KEK. No one was injured. Fermilab director Pier Oddone stated "In this case we are dumbfounded that we missed some very simple balance of forces". This fault had been present in the original design, and remained during four engineering reviews over the following years. Analysis revealed that its design, made as thin as possible for better insulation, was not strong enough to withstand the forces generated during pressure testing. Details are available in a statement from Fermilab, with which CERN is in agreement. Repairing the broken magnet and reinforcing the eight identical assemblies used by LHC delayed the startup date, then planned for November 2007.
Problems occurred on 19 September 2008 during powering tests of the main dipole circuit, when an electrical fault in the bus between magnets caused a rupture and a leak of six tonnes of liquid helium. The operation was delayed for several months. It is currently believed that a faulty electrical connection between two magnets caused an arc, which compromised the liquid-helium containment. Once the cooling layer was broken, the helium flooded the surrounding vacuum layer with sufficient force to break 10-ton magnets from their mountings. The explosion also contaminated the proton tubes with soot.
Two vacuum leaks were identified in July 2009, and the start of operations was further postponed to mid-November, 2009.
In November 2009, a bird was suspected of causing an electrical short to the LHC by dropping a baguette onto an unprotected electrical installation. Because the LHC was not activated, the short did no serious damage.

Fun.

They said itd be the end of the world, its just taking a little longer than expected, increments,

So next, small pockets of the world will disappear? Or is that after a few more steps?

Maybe an actual bird will find its way into it.

Well, the first computers had bugs crawling through them, hence the term "debugging..." Maybe future particle accelerators will have to undergo "bebirding" and "desammiching" before takeoff...

[Senestrum]

If it works, science happens. I'm sure you've heard dozens of times by now that if the LHC was capable of creating black holes, cosmic rays striking the atmosphere would have created a black hole already.

omg

somebody else who knows what he's talking about

[Elgadika]

If it works, science happens. I'm sure you've heard dozens of times by now that if the LHC was capable of creating black holes, cosmic rays striking the atmosphere would have created a black hole already.

omg

somebody else who knows what he's talking about

I used to know what I was talking about... A long, long time ago.

[Cubic kms]

Everything that has gone wrong with the LHC:

On 25 October 2005, a technician was killed in the LHC tunnel when a crane load was accidentally dropped.
On 27 March 2007 a cryogenic magnet support broke during a pressure test involving one of the LHC's inner triplet (focusing quadrupole) magnet assemblies, provided by Fermilab and KEK. No one was injured. Fermilab director Pier Oddone stated "In this case we are dumbfounded that we missed some very simple balance of forces". This fault had been present in the original design, and remained during four engineering reviews over the following years. Analysis revealed that its design, made as thin as possible for better insulation, was not strong enough to withstand the forces generated during pressure testing. Details are available in a statement from Fermilab, with which CERN is in agreement. Repairing the broken magnet and reinforcing the eight identical assemblies used by LHC delayed the startup date, then planned for November 2007.
Problems occurred on 19 September 2008 during powering tests of the main dipole circuit, when an electrical fault in the bus between magnets caused a rupture and a leak of six tonnes of liquid helium. The operation was delayed for several months. It is currently believed that a faulty electrical connection between two magnets caused an arc, which compromised the liquid-helium containment. Once the cooling layer was broken, the helium flooded the surrounding vacuum layer with sufficient force to break 10-ton magnets from their mountings. The explosion also contaminated the proton tubes with soot.
Two vacuum leaks were identified in July 2009, and the start of operations was further postponed to mid-November, 2009.
In November 2009, a bird was suspected of causing an electrical short to the LHC by dropping a baguette onto an unprotected electrical installation. Because the LHC was not activated, the short did no serious damage.

Fun.

They said itd be the end of the world, its just taking a little longer than expected, increments,

So next, small pockets of the world will disappear? Or is that after a few more steps?

Maybe an actual bird will find its way into it.

Well, the first computers had bugs crawling through them, hence the term "debugging..." Maybe future particle accelerators will have to undergo "bebirding" and "desammiching" before takeoff...

I blame the french... first they did Canada, now the LHC

[Christmahanikwanzikah]

If it works, science happens. I'm sure you've heard dozens of times by now that if the LHC was capable of creating black holes, cosmic rays striking the atmosphere would have created a black hole already.

omg

somebody else who knows what he's talking about

You know who else knew what he was talking about? Hitl*is shot*

Seriously, though, I can't *not* trust Hawking when it comes to physics.

[Senestrum]

Here is a great big 22 page PDF explaining in extreme detail why there is no reason to think the LHC will fucking kill you dead.

Some of you will no doubt find it a bit too high-brow.

[Fartsniffage]

Seriously, though, I can't *not* trust Hawking when it comes to physics.

I don't trust anyone who changes their accent just to fit in.

The guys is English but puts on that awful American accent just so he'll be accepted by the American scientific community.

If he'll lie about that, what else is he lying about?

[Elgadika]

Here is a great big 22 page PDF explaining in extreme detail why there is no reason to think the LHC will fucking kill you dead.

Some of you will no doubt find it a bit too high-brow.

Gaah, It's too late at night to read through that.

[Cubic kms]

Here is a great big 22 page PDF explaining in extreme detail why there is no reason to think the LHC will fucking kill you dead.

Some of you will no doubt find it a bit too high-brow.

Yeah so the only downside is that no new particles may be discovered? Hope they find the Higgs boson particle which hypothetically could lead to anti-gravity

Either way, i want this to lead to a Particle Beam Weapon in the form of a satellite orbiting Earth. This could lead to a new way to heat the ice caps on mars leading to its terraforming OR result in the destruction of the human race...

[Elgadika]

Here is a great big 22 page PDF explaining in extreme detail why there is no reason to think the LHC will fucking kill you dead.

Some of you will no doubt find it a bit too high-brow.

Yeah so the only downside is that no new particles may be discovered? Hope they find the Higgs boson particle which hypothetically could lead to anti-gravity

Either way, i want this to lead to a Particle Beam Weapon in the form of a satellite orbiting Earth.

Only if I can use it.