Explosions at Boston Marathon

[Ifreann]

No being read his Miranda rights. Rather a different thing, no?

The man is in the hospital, probably on morphine nappytime at the moment. They're not going to try to get anything from him yet.

I know. And when he gets upgraded to You Can Interrogate Him Now status(a real medical thing[/notadoctor]), they're going to interrogate him without reading him his Miranda rights under the public safety exception.

He still has the right to remain silent, and the right to have an attorney present during questioning, and will be provided with an attorney if he cannot afford one of his own. They're just not going to tell him that, at least not right away, because he might have more bombs around and finding them is rather important, lest they blow more people up.

[The Marxist State]

Oh, quit your useless whining. Don't post if you cannot contribute anything except for crying about liberals.

They are the most responible for this terrorist attack because they are forcing immigration of crazy islamists. So yeah, it is not useless. Immigration from islamic countries should stop.

Thanks to them in the streets of Paris imagines like this can be seen.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=b5iqOu_s71o

I'm only in this country because of immigration from an Islamic country. My family is not Muslim.

Stereotype a little harder, why don't you?

[Gauthier]

First step on the way to gitmo I guess... *sigh*

No Miranda rights

No being read his Miranda rights. Rather a different thing, no?

Plus the Public Safety Exception has a short duration, about 24 hours or so after being invoked. After that they're required to read him the rights.

[The Mizarian Empire]

They are the most responible for this terrorist attack because they are forcing immigration of crazy islamists. So yeah, it is not useless. Immigration from islamic countries should stop.

Thanks to them in the streets of Paris imagines like this can be seen.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=b5iqOu_s71o

I'm only in this country because of immigration from an Islamic country. My family is not Muslim.

Stereotype a little harder, why don't you?

[sarcasm]but, but....DA TURRISTS 'n 'n........'n FREEDOM.........'n 'n 'n......and............DEMOCRACY, DOWN WITH THE "EVIL ISLAM" [/ sarcasm]

(this line directed to shoelencia)
That said, having visited both Iraq and Afghanistan it is another world. Until you have been there and seen the things i've seen and other soldiers have seen though? Kindly do us all a favor and shut your gob and and find something else to complain about.

[sarcasm]Oh no! they're conducting a harmless mass prayer in Paris! Surely they are trying to invoke the wrath of Allah to bring down the Eiffel tower ( which btw, fun fact, was hated when it was first erected )[/sarcasm]

[Chinese Regions]

Islamist:"I must bomb some streets otherwise Allah will send me to hell"

Liberals: "You are unfortunately poor immigrants and people should not offend you otherwise they are racists"

You don't know if he did it for Islamic Extremist reasons.
What ideology did Hitler kill the Jews for? For Christianity, his religion, or for Nazism, Fascism?
Is a murderer raised a Christian necessarily a Christian extremist? No, they are just murderer but unless they say the did it for that ideology, we don't know.

[Chinese Regions]

Yes, but we don't even have evidence saying that they were even a part of a terrorist group in the first place, all we know is that they were of the Islamic faith.

Ok. They were Islamic, Chechen and terrorists using an Al-Qaeda technique. It sounds to me that Al-Qaeda may be using some Chechen insurgents they supported during the Chechen Wars. Not these two specifically, but Chechnya probably has some terrorist problems still.

No, it's North Korea that's funding them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDGju21LPUs

We don't know their motive yet.

[Xsyne]

CNN is late to the party. Still think he's cornered.

I think this is some kind of record. Seriously, has any network ever been as systematically and magnificently wrong this many times on a single story in a single week?

CNN = Can't Negotiate the News

Yes. All of them. About this very story. This entire event was a monumental clusterfuck when it came to journalism.

[Xsyne]

First step on the way to gitmo I guess... *sigh*

No Miranda rights

All this means is that anything he says under questioning will not be admissible in court. Nothing else.

[Xsyne]

I'm surprised they caught/killed/apprehended the guys so quickly.

Is that normal?

Yes.

Now, doing it without shooting a bunch of completely unrelated people? That's not normal.

[Lolzieristan]

I'm personally not surprised we caught him this fast. He was still on Boston. Unlike Osama bin Laden, who was in one of two massive, unfriendly countries half a world away from us, using a massive network of corrupt government officials, safe houses, couriers, millions of dollars in funding, and subordinates to elude us.

Hell, he had the entire Taliban government on his side in 2001.

[L Ron Cupboard]

I'm personally not surprised we caught him this fast. He was still on Boston. Unlike Osama bin Laden, who was in one of two massive, unfriendly countries half a world away from us, using a massive network of corrupt government officials, safe houses, couriers, millions of dollars in funding, and subordinates to elude us.

Hell, he had the entire Taliban government on his side in 2001.

The worrying side of that is that people don't need to be around people like bin Laden to become radicalised. If that is the motivation here, it looks as if people who grew up in the US can become radicalised simply through the internet.

[Mkuki]

I'm personally not surprised we caught him this fast. He was still on Boston. Unlike Osama bin Laden, who was in one of two massive, unfriendly countries half a world away from us, using a massive network of corrupt government officials, safe houses, couriers, millions of dollars in funding, and subordinates to elude us.

Hell, he had the entire Taliban government on his side in 2001.

The worrying side of that is that people don't need to be around people like bin Laden to become radicalised. If that is the motivation here, it looks as if people who grew up in the US can become radicalised simply through the internet.

Or pamphlets. Or books. Or posters. You don't need an iconic figure or the internet to become radicalised.

[Lolzieristan]

You can get "radicalized" just by being sad and lonely...that appears to be the case with Tamerlan.

[Greed and Death]

Seeing as you all are still on this miranda stuff I have alink that breaks it down.
http://www.volokh.com/2013/04/20/tsarna ... da-rights/
This is law professor Kerr, he is really good I met him once.

[Greed and Death]

You can get "radicalized" just by being sad and lonely...that appears to be the case with Tamerlan.

We shall set up a nation wide dating club and insure every dork who might go nuts has a girlfriend.

[Individuality-ness]

You can get "radicalized" just by being sad and lonely...that appears to be the case with Tamerlan.

Then why haven't I started building bombs yet?

Oh wait, it's because I'm a decent human being with perspective. Never mind.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

You can get "radicalized" just by being sad and lonely...that appears to be the case with Tamerlan.

We shall set up a nation wide dating club and insure every dork who might go nuts has a girlfriend.

He had a wife.

[Lolzieristan]

You can get "radicalized" just by being sad and lonely...that appears to be the case with Tamerlan.

We shall set up a nation wide dating club and insure every dork who might go nuts has a girlfriend.

The problem is that is, of course, impossible outside of sarcasm. We'll never solve violence 100%, it's inherent in the human psyche. My best advice would be a nationwide ad campaign of "Don't Be A Dick By Killing Random People".

[Greed and Death]

We shall set up a nation wide dating club and insure every dork who might go nuts has a girlfriend.

He had a wife.

He obviously needed some more.

[Greed and Death]

You can get "radicalized" just by being sad and lonely...that appears to be the case with Tamerlan.

Then why haven't I started building bombs yet?

Oh wait, it's because I'm a decent human being with perspective. Never mind.

We better have the police rummage through your stuff every month just in case.

[Miss Defied]

Seeing as you all are still on this miranda stuff I have alink that breaks it down.
http://www.volokh.com/2013/04/20/tsarna ... da-rights/
This is law professor Kerr, he is really good I met him once.

Here is the thing about the public safety exception in this case:
Can anyone point to a DOJ official actually announcing they were going to use this?
I mean, besides an "unnamed source" who "isn't authorized" to make such an announcement?
It seems to be a bunch of media speculation that they can or might use it. But no credible evidence that they actually were pursuing that course. Isn't it all just speculation at this point?

[Lolzieristan]

You can get "radicalized" just by being sad and lonely...that appears to be the case with Tamerlan.

Then why haven't I started building bombs yet?

Oh wait, it's because I'm a decent human being with perspective. Never mind.

Because you realize that killing random people will make you a dick, of course.

[Individuality-ness]

Then why haven't I started building bombs yet?

Oh wait, it's because I'm a decent human being with perspective. Never mind.

We better have the police rummage through your stuff every month just in case.

You'd like to rummage through the trash and my computer files? Uh oh.

Then why haven't I started building bombs yet?

Oh wait, it's because I'm a decent human being with perspective. Never mind.

Because you realize that killing random people will make you a dick, of course.

Exactly. I'm a decent human being.

[Mighty Qin]

MASSIVE WALL OF TINFOIL

I didn't advance a single conspiracy theory. I reject them until sufficient evidence has been advanced, which means I tend to reject nearly all of them out of hand. Tinfoil usually refers to people attempting to communicate with aliens telepathically or block thought processes, indicating a level of madness associated with conspiratorial obsession. You discredit the derogation and yourself by using it completely out of context.

I did note, with evidence, the general incompetence of our massive security infrastructure and discussed the implication that, even with the government constantly playing games with the Fourth Amendment, as well as the massive costs of all this security, it completely failed an investigation that should have been much easier than foreseeable ones might be.

As for being a "massive wall," I have no interest in the 96% of comments of 6 words or fewer with no substance and no detail. Mine was still pretty short, but I don't pander to low attention spans because anything beyond "Yea I know right lol" as a comment is taxing.

[Floribbea]

Oh, quit your useless whining. Don't post if you cannot contribute anything except for crying about liberals.

They are the most responible for this terrorist attack because they are forcing immigration of crazy islamists. So yeah, it is not useless. Immigration from islamic countries should stop.

Thanks to them in the streets of Paris imagines like this can be seen.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=b5iqOu_s71o

Seriously? I think we should be more accepting of other cultures. Ever since 9/11, when Osama bin laden took responsibility for the attacks, everyone accuses the Muslim people when an act of terrorist happens. Real Muslims are against violence, not for it. They don't like war or terrorism. The US used to be a gateway to freedom for foreign people. It should stay that way. I admit, though, there should be a better system to keep them from illegally crossing.