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Postby Death Metal » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:02 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Oh, that's good because that's an auxiliary argument. My main argument is that in addition to being more expensive, the death penalty is irreversible, which makes it worse in cases where the legal system fucks up, as well as the fact that it's cruel, if not unusual.

as i said before, the us constitution disagree's with you.


Except you know, the reason almost every US state has abandoned the noose and the electric chair is because they have been deemed cruel and unusual punishment in those states.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:04 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
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Life is not absolute, Death is absolute. we disagree i am fine with the death penalty, it should be used more. Bernie madoff should be dead, charles manson should be dead, david berkowitz should be dead.

No. Where does the blood stop? When do we stop killing because we're angry? People do horrible things. People kill. And state-sponsored killing of killers is simply collective killing. It's morally reprehensible as well as fiscally unsound and legally shaky at best.


when the killing is done by an independent judicial process, that goes out of its way to protect the integrity of the process, its justice.
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Postby Frisivisia » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:05 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:No. Where does the blood stop? When do we stop killing because we're angry? People do horrible things. People kill. And state-sponsored killing of killers is simply collective killing. It's morally reprehensible as well as fiscally unsound and legally shaky at best.


when the killing is done by an independent judicial process, that goes out of its way to protect the integrity of the process, its justice.

You could slap that on Salem and justify witch trials.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:07 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
when the killing is done by an independent judicial process, that goes out of its way to protect the integrity of the process, its justice.

You could slap that on Salem and justify witch trials.

no, the witness's in salem lied under oath, the process was tainted. also the process was not protected, and there were no appeals,


and on that note, i must go to bed. goodnight all
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Postby Frisivisia » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:08 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:You could slap that on Salem and justify witch trials.

no, the witness's in salem lied under oath, the process was tainted. also the process was not protected, and there were no appeals,


and on that note, i must go to bed. goodnight all

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Postby Desperate Measures » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:08 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:Bonobos.

Are you possibly implying the Chechens are being aided by the Bonobian?

:meh:
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Postby Frisivisia » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:09 pm

Desperate Measures wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Are you possibly implying the Chechens are being aided by the Bonobian?

:meh:

Bonobostan, part of the Axis of Evil.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:12 pm


Oh dear god, I'm trying so hard not to laugh.
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Postby Aeternally (Ancient) » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:13 pm

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Oh dear god, I'm trying so hard not to laugh.


It's tasteless but I think it's hilarious.

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Postby Desperate Measures » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:13 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote: :meh:

Bonobostan, part of the Axis of Evil.

We have always supported America and her allies.

:unsure:


We have long range missiles and a "peaceful" nuclear program.


:unsure:


Iran is acting real shady over there. I'd go check out what they're up to. *whistles innocently*
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:20 pm

I support peace in Israel and Palestine. The governments and people in power on all sides are an absolute disgrace, and their unwillingness to pursue peace is a disservice to the people they are meant to be serving. The status quo is not simply untenable; it is unquestionably unacceptable.

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Postby AiliailiA » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:22 pm

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I say the same thing about life imprisonment. What's the real difference?


Well, yes. It's a tough situation there. And it doesn't need to be expensive. All they need is two meals a day, a bed, a toilet and for walls.


Four walls? What is this mollycoddling. Prisoners can share the walls.

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Postby Dracoria » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:23 pm



Crazy person has crazy familymembers. Film at 11.

For those wondering, this was meant in humor.
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Postby Terraius » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:35 pm

Ok guys. Just got home from work. Dont feel like reading 50 pages of text since I last posted and I dont want to go read the misinformation from the news.

What has happened since earlier today? (around 5-6pm CST) did they get him?
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Postby Death Metal » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:35 pm



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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:35 pm

Terraius wrote:Ok guys. Just got home from work. Dont feel like reading 50 pages of text since I last posted and I dont want to go read the misinformation from the news.

What has happened since earlier today? (around 5-6pm CST) did they get him?

They got him.
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# went there....

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Postby Terraius » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:37 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Terraius wrote:Ok guys. Just got home from work. Dont feel like reading 50 pages of text since I last posted and I dont want to go read the misinformation from the news.

What has happened since earlier today? (around 5-6pm CST) did they get him?

They got him.


Into custody im hoping? So he can actually be interrogated and charged etc?
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:37 pm

Terraius wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:They got him.


Into custody im hoping? So he can actually be interrogated and charged etc?

Yes. He surrendered after a stand off and they hit him with flash bangs.
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Nat: Night's always in some bizarre state somewhere between "intoxicated enough to kill a hair metal lead singer" and "annoying Mormon missionary sober".

Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.

Monfrox wrote:
The balkens wrote:
# went there....

It's Nightkill. He's been there so long he rents out rooms to other people at a flat rate, but demands cash up front.

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Postby Terraius » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:39 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Terraius wrote:
Into custody im hoping? So he can actually be interrogated and charged etc?

Yes. He surrendered after a stand off and they hit him with flash bangs.


Sweetness. Hopefully we can get some info out of him.
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Postby Varijnland » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:50 pm

Aeternally wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Oh dear god, I'm trying so hard not to laugh.


It's tasteless but I think it's hilarious.

Then you have an awful sense of humour. Aside from the fact that it's in bad taste, it really isn't funny at all. Not one bit.

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Postby United Dependencies » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:52 pm

I must say, our terrorist chose a poor getaway vehicle.
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Postby Bernese Oberland » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:54 pm

Chechens, eh? Wasn't expecting that.
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Postby United Dependencies » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:54 pm

When I heard the suspect was caught. This was probably one of the first things I thought of.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1moSnWeOm8
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Obamacult wrote:Maybe there is an economically sound and rational reason why there are no longer high paying jobs for qualified accountants, assembly line workers, glass blowers, blacksmiths, tanners, etc.

Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.

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Postby The Rich Port » Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:14 pm

I'm surprised they caught/killed/apprehended the guys so quickly.

Is that normal?

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