Explosions at Boston Marathon

[Individuality-ness]

There are bad apples in every group you could think of. That doesn't mean an entire group is <negative trait>.

agreed, that does not mean there are not muslim terror groups, and these groups need to be dealt with, and saying so does not make one a bigot.

Yes, but we don't even have evidence saying that they were even a part of a terrorist group in the first place, all we know is that they were of the Islamic faith.

[The New Sea Territory]

Capital Punishment is immoral, oppressive, unnecessary, and expensive. So yeah.

I say the same thing about life imprisonment. What's the real difference?

Well, yes. It's a tough situation there. And it doesn't need to be expensive. All they need is two meals a day, a bed, a toilet and for walls.

[Individuality-ness]

That's like saying all Christians are homophobic bigoted assholes and that all Catholic priests want to fuck little boys in the ass. A few idiotic people do not make up an entire group of individuals from diverse backgrounds.

How funny, I remember hearing that line about Christians in plenty of threads. I'm not saying all Islamic people are terrorists, but they will have to deal with the consequences. It's not right, but it's reality.

So punish all of the Islamic people because of these two idiots? Then we are just as bad as they are.

[Ethel mermania]

how does the triumvirate vote ?

The: No.
Gif: No.
Lucca: Shut up.

2 -1 non asshole? i need david huntley to interpret the results

[Pope Joan]

Still sucks tremendously. People are going to hate Muslims even more because of this mess. The poor kid's life will be hell on Earth, times one million. And it's not their fault.

thats the sad part, i do feel for their families, On the bright side maybe the folks who say "everyone who says there are muslim terror groups is racist" will shut the fuck up, and realize there is a problem.

nah who am i kidding, never happen

The sister continues to say it is just not possible. Despite the video evidence, the firefight etc.
The father says they are framed, it is an American government conspiracy!

[Nightkill the Emperor]

thats the sad part, i do feel for their families, On the bright side maybe the folks who say "everyone who says there are muslim terror groups is racist" will shut the fuck up, and realize there is a problem.

nah who am i kidding, never happen

The sister continues to say it is just not possible. Despite the video evidence, the firefight etc.
The father says they are framed, it is an American government conspiracy!

They're family- if my siblings did such a thing, I'd simply refuse to believe it as well. I simply would not be able to understand it and would hit immediate and total denial.

[The New Sea Territory]

agreed, that does not mean there are not muslim terror groups, and these groups need to be dealt with, and saying so does not make one a bigot.

Yes, but we don't even have evidence saying that they were even a part of a terrorist group in the first place, all we know is that they were of the Islamic faith.

Ok. They were Islamic, Chechen and terrorists using an Al-Qaeda technique. It sounds to me that Al-Qaeda may be using some Chechen insurgents they supported during the Chechen Wars. Not these two specifically, but Chechnya probably has some terrorist problems still.

[Lolzieristan]

I say the same thing about life imprisonment. What's the real difference?

Life imprisonment is cheaper than humane capital punishment, it's not oppressive, it's reversible, and it's necessary.

The reversible part is true, yes.

But it's not cheaper, you're housing, feeding, and caring for a man for the rest of his life. It's oppressive, because you are putting a man in a 12ft by 12ft room until he dies. And for that reason, I don't really think it's all that different than the death penalty. The objective of both is to take the individual off the streets for eternity, The only real difference is that one actually kills people. The other merely deprives people of their freedom, and their lives of any notable value, until they die from some other reason.

[The Emerald Dawn]

The: No.
Gif: No.
Lucca: Shut up.

2 -1 non asshole? i need david huntley to interpret the results

I think the "shut up" was an abstain.

[Individuality-ness]

Yes, but we don't even have evidence saying that they were even a part of a terrorist group in the first place, all we know is that they were of the Islamic faith.

Ok. They were Islamic, Chechen and terrorists using an Al-Qaeda technique. It sounds to me that Al-Qaeda may be using some Chechen insurgents they supported during the Chechen Wars. Not these two specifically, but Chechnya probably has some terrorist problems still.

We. Do. Not. Have. Evidence. You. Are. Extrapolating. Stop. That.

[The New Sea Territory]

How funny, I remember hearing that line about Christians in plenty of threads. I'm not saying all Islamic people are terrorists, but they will have to deal with the consequences. It's not right, but it's reality.

So punish all of the Islamic people because of these two idiots? Then we are just as bad as they are.

Never said the state had to punish. I'm just stating that the reality is that the common person is going to be scared of Islamic faith members.

[Miss Defied]

they haven't even arrested him yet, feds have announced they're not reading him his miranda rights yet:

"The exception, according to the FBI‘s website, “permits law enforcement to engage in a limited and focused unwarned interrogation and allows the government to introduce the statement as direct evidence.”"

all of this angry discussion about his rights... but he doesn't really have many at the moment

The's this thing where I think the person has to be concious when they are Mirandized. It's possible he's not that ATM. So, hence, and stuff.

[Individuality-ness]

So punish all of the Islamic people because of these two idiots? Then we are just as bad as they are.

Never said the state had to punish. I'm just stating that the reality is that the common person is going to be scared of Islamic faith members.

Then we are as bad as they are.

[Ethel mermania]

agreed, that does not mean there are not muslim terror groups, and these groups need to be dealt with, and saying so does not make one a bigot.

Yes, but we don't even have evidence saying that they were even a part of a terrorist group in the first place, all we know is that they were of the Islamic faith.

the investigation is not nearly started yet and as been posted earlier we kind of do

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-575 ... years-ago/

[Individuality-ness]

Yes, but we don't even have evidence saying that they were even a part of a terrorist group in the first place, all we know is that they were of the Islamic faith.

the investigation is not nearly started yet and as been posted earlier we kind of do

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-575 ... years-ago/

I'd like to see this admitted into a court of law. If it's admitted, then sure.

[The New Sea Territory]

Ok. They were Islamic, Chechen and terrorists using an Al-Qaeda technique. It sounds to me that Al-Qaeda may be using some Chechen insurgents they supported during the Chechen Wars. Not these two specifically, but Chechnya probably has some terrorist problems still.

We. Do. Not. Have. Evidence. You. Are. Extrapolating. Stop. That.

It's a theory. You stop.

I will continue to say what I want. It's in the Constitution, if you forgot. Racism is legal. Theories are legal. And me saying anything I want is legal.

This is just my thoughts from what I personally know. And I was right when I called that they were Muslim, and white. I've been right so far.

[Ethel mermania]

The sister continues to say it is just not possible. Despite the video evidence, the firefight etc.
The father says they are framed, it is an American government conspiracy!

They're family- if my siblings did such a thing, I'd simply refuse to believe it as well. I simply would not be able to understand it and would hit immediate and total denial.

agreed. as i have said before, i do feel for the family

[The New Sea Territory]

Never said the state had to punish. I'm just stating that the reality is that the common person is going to be scared of Islamic faith members.

Then we are as bad as they are.

Ok. Go tell the average joe that then. The ignorant will judge. Plain and simple, that's all I said. And they can, a long as it's merely words.

[Frisivisia]

Life imprisonment is cheaper than humane capital punishment, it's not oppressive, it's reversible, and it's necessary.

The reversible part is true, yes.

But it's not cheaper, you're housing, feeding, and caring for a man for the rest of his life. It's oppressive, because you are putting a man in a 12ft by 12ft room until he dies. And for that reason, I don't really think it's all that different than the death penalty. The objective of both is to take the individual off the streets for eternity, The only real difference is that one actually kills people. The other merely deprives people of their freedom, and their lives of any notable value, until they die from some other reason.

The difference is that it's not oppressive because the prisoner can be freed if he did not do the crime.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty

Oh, and the death penalty does cost more. I even put some sauce on it.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

What are we talking about now?

[The Emerald Dawn]

What are we talking about now?

Bonobos.

[Individuality-ness]

We. Do. Not. Have. Evidence. You. Are. Extrapolating. Stop. That.

It's a theory. You stop.

I will continue to say what I want. It's in the Constitution, if you forgot. Racism is legal. Theories are legal. And me saying anything I want is legal.

This is just my thoughts from what I personally know. And I was right when I called that they were Muslim, and white. I've been right so far.

That doesn't mean that I can't tell you that speculating on something we don't know that much is bad. First Amendment too.

I'd rather not have such rampant speculation anyhow; it makes it much harder to get an impartial jury if everyone has a preconceived idea on who did it, how, and why.

[Frisivisia]

We. Do. Not. Have. Evidence. You. Are. Extrapolating. Stop. That.

It's a theory. You stop.

I will continue to say what I want. It's in the Constitution, if you forgot. Racism is legal. Theories are legal. And me saying anything I want is legal.

This is just my thoughts from what I personally know. And I was right when I called that they were Muslim, and white. I've been right so far.

He's not arguing that it's illegal. He's arguing that you can't honestly know and that speculation is disingenuous.

[Individuality-ness]

Then we are as bad as they are.

Ok. Go tell the average joe that then. The ignorant will judge. Plain and simple, that's all I said. And they can, a long as it's merely words.

I'm trying to now. They can judge, but I am just going to say that it's a bad idea and that we shouldn't.

[Ethel mermania]

the investigation is not nearly started yet and as been posted earlier we kind of do

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-575 ... years-ago/

I'd like to see this admitted into a court of law. If it's admitted, then sure.

the trial will not be for months if not years, even the first phase of the investigation is not over, There is already enough evidence that there may be some sort of connection, if not a direct action by a terror group, and that it was done for "islamic" reasons. Doesnt mean its so, but there is evidence pointing that way.