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Should we ban smoking in public places?

I'll smoke wherever I damn please!
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14%
No smoking inside public places, restaurants etc. but everywhere else is fine-stop moaning
135
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Yes, ban smoking in all public places-only allow it on private property, I'm sick of this cigarette smoke
133
31%
Smokers, I shall have my revenge upon thee! Ban smoking entirely! Prohibition!
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13%
I couldn't care less/Neutral
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5%
Other
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3%
Something witty about David Hasselhoff etc.
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3%
 
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Postby Hathradic States » Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:53 am

Algonquin Ascendancy wrote:
Great Zavi wrote:Smoking should only be done in private homes.
I don't know why everyone else is saying its okay to do it outdooors; here in New York City if someone smokes outside I can be a good distance behind them and still smell that damned smoke. I don't want to inhale that poison.

If you're that concerned about inhaling poison, why do you live in New York City?

That's what I'm wondering. breathing in New York is like smoking a dozen cigarettes at once. :P

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Postby Sauritican » Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:27 pm

I'd have smoking banned outright
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:33 pm

Sauritican wrote:I'd have smoking banned outright


You know who else would ban smoking outright?

Obama.... and Hitler.

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Postby Sauritican » Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:39 pm

Obama good, and frankly I don't care who else would ban it. I'm a separate person after all
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Postby Grainne Ni Malley » Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:39 pm

Costa Alegria wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:Some people having perfume allergies is not the same as everybody reacting unfavourably to cigarette smoke.


I've been around smokers most of my life and I am proudly standing here declaring what a cancer ridden corpse I am.


I've been a smoker since I was 16, which means I've been smoking for over 20 years and I got a type of cancer that isn't even related to smoking. Go figure.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:41 pm

Sauritican wrote:Obama good, and frankly I don't care who else would ban it. I'm a separate person after all


Obama, Hitler. Really the same thing.

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Postby Fireye » Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:59 pm

Grainne Ni Malley wrote:
Costa Alegria wrote:

I've been around smokers most of my life and I am proudly standing here declaring what a cancer ridden corpse I am.


I've been a smoker since I was 16, which means I've been smoking for over 20 years and I got a type of cancer that isn't even related to smoking. Go figure.

Life is weird like that. Good luck.

I've been Nicotine-free for just over 4 weeks now. (been smoking for around 12+ years)

Watch me get lung cancer in about 5 years time. *knocks on wood*
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Goal
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Postby Goal » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:35 am

Hathradic States wrote:I am going to smoke where I fucking please, unless stated otherwise by the owner and/or state law.


And there you have it. Because smokers usually are such as*&^#@s they should get their smoking restricted since there is no fucking way they will be respectful about throwing smoke in your face or care how much you hate it.

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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:44 am

Goal wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:I am going to smoke where I fucking please, unless stated otherwise by the owner and/or state law.


And there you have it. Because smokers usually are such as*&^#@s they should get their smoking restricted since there is no fucking way they will be respectful about throwing smoke in your face or care how much you hate it.



What on earth are you on about?

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Postby Fireye » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:17 am

The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Goal wrote:
And there you have it. Because smokers usually are such as*&^#@s they should get their smoking restricted since there is no fucking way they will be respectful about throwing smoke in your face or care how much you hate it.



What on earth are you on about?

He's making a logical fallacy by assuming that one [redacted] smoker means all smokers are thoughtless.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:19 am

YellowApple wrote:I'd leave it up to businesses...

Boo! No opt out to health and safety law!


Mike the Progressive wrote:
Sauritican wrote:Obama good, and frankly I don't care who else would ban it. I'm a separate person after all


Obama, Hitler. Really the same thing.

Obama's taller.

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Postby Genivaria » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:21 am

Keep it out of restaurants and other businesses and I don't much care, but blow smoke in my face and I'll punch you in yours.
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Postby Costa Alegria » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:22 pm

Grainne Ni Malley wrote:
Costa Alegria wrote:

I've been around smokers most of my life and I am proudly standing here declaring what a cancer ridden corpse I am.


I've been a smoker since I was 16, which means I've been smoking for over 20 years and I got a type of cancer that isn't even related to smoking. Go figure.


My granddad was a drinker and a smoker for a good portion of his life. Died of a combination of liver cancer, pneumonia and tuberculosis, the latter of which we may think was picked up living in the terrible conditions in Nazi occupied Netherlands during WW2.

Goal wrote:And there you have it. Because smokers usually are such as*&^#@s they should get their smoking restricted since there is no fucking way they will be respectful about throwing smoke in your face or care how much you hate it.


And there you have it. Because anti-smokers are usually precocious, self-righteous, holier-than-thou pricks, we should totally listen to what they have to say. Or, how about we stop making stupid statements like that and refrain from posting sentences that don't add to the debate at hand.
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Postby Trollgaard » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:19 pm

Genivaria wrote:Keep it out of restaurants and other businesses and I don't much care, but blow smoke in my face and I'll punch you in yours.


Lol, I bet. You'll just randomly attack someone who is smoking as you walk by? I really doubt that...

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Postby Genivaria » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:27 pm

Trollgaard wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Keep it out of restaurants and other businesses and I don't much care, but blow smoke in my face and I'll punch you in yours.


Lol, I bet. You'll just randomly attack someone who is smoking as you walk by? I really doubt that...

Blow smoke in my face is not 'smoking as you walk by'.
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Postby Costa Alegria » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:28 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Trollgaard wrote:
Lol, I bet. You'll just randomly attack someone who is smoking as you walk by? I really doubt that...

Blow smoke in my face is not 'smoking as you walk by'.


Except no one is going to walk up to you and blow smoke in your face.
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Postby Trollgaard » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:29 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Trollgaard wrote:
Lol, I bet. You'll just randomly attack someone who is smoking as you walk by? I really doubt that...

Blow smoke in my face is not 'smoking as you walk by'.


And who just blows smoke in people's faces? A very, very, very small percentage of people. Like less than 1%. Less than half a percent. I'm sure in arguments that might happen, but is there really a problem of random smokers going around and exhaling in people's faces? I think you're being a wee bit paranoid, pal.

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Postby Great Zavi » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:32 pm

The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Great Zavi wrote:Smoking should only be done in private homes.
I don't know why everyone else is saying its okay to do it outdooors; here in New York City if someone smokes outside I can be a good distance behind them and still smell that damned smoke. I don't want to inhale that poison.


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Postby Fireye » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:52 pm

Trollgaard wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Blow smoke in my face is not 'smoking as you walk by'.


And who just blows smoke in people's faces? A very, very, very small percentage of people. Like less than 1%. Less than half a percent. I'm sure in arguments that might happen, but is there really a problem of random smokers going around and exhaling in people's faces? I think you're being a wee bit paranoid, pal.

I have to agree with this.

When I was still smoking, if I blew smoke in your face, you've already pushed me into a rage, and I'm just goading you into the first swing.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:56 pm

Trollgaard wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Blow smoke in my face is not 'smoking as you walk by'.


And who just blows smoke in people's faces? A very, very, very small percentage of people. Like less than 1%. Less than half a percent. I'm sure in arguments that might happen, but is there really a problem of random smokers going around and exhaling in people's faces? I think you're being a wee bit paranoid, pal.

Did I imply that there was some epidemic of people literally blowing smoke in people's faces?
The comment was made in jest, jesus christ.
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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:58 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Trollgaard wrote:
And who just blows smoke in people's faces? A very, very, very small percentage of people. Like less than 1%. Less than half a percent. I'm sure in arguments that might happen, but is there really a problem of random smokers going around and exhaling in people's faces? I think you're being a wee bit paranoid, pal.

Did I imply that there was some epidemic of people literally blowing smoke in people's faces?
The comment was made in jest, jesus christ.

This is a discussion on smoking on the Internet sir.
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Postby Anollasia » Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:42 pm

Smoking is bad for everyone, I think it should be banned.

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Postby Heavenly Peace » Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:56 pm

Ultimately, it is up for the owner of said property to decide whether he/she allows smoking to take place. The customer has no right to dictate to the proprietor what he can allow or not allow on his property. If someone does not want to go to a restaurant full of smokers then go to one that disallows smoking instead. You are free to chose.
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Postby Heavenly Peace » Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:58 pm

Anollasia wrote:Smoking is bad for everyone, I think it should be banned.


Sky-diving is bad for people, I mean, they could die! Let's ban it!
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Postby Anollasia » Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:59 pm

Heavenly Peace wrote:
Anollasia wrote:Smoking is bad for everyone, I think it should be banned.


Sky-diving is bad for people, I mean, they could die! Let's ban it!

Sky diving has safety precautions.

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