Smoking In Public

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

I am reminded suddenly of an episode of Penn and Teller: Bullshit where they successfully dismantled the claims that second-hand smoke can kill. I should go dig that up.

Does anyone ever say that second-hand smoke is anything more than harmful? As opposed to, you know, lethal?

What doesn't kill you probably doesn't make you stronger.

Well it depends on the context...

[Luveria]

Does anyone ever say that second-hand smoke is anything more than harmful? As opposed to, you know, lethal?

What doesn't kill you probably doesn't make you stronger.

Well it depends on the context...

In the context of physical health, not psychological.

[Cosara]

Boy, this anti-smoking crowd is a bandwagon jumping, melodramatically asthmatic, self-righteous, "I don't like it so ban it," adults-can't-ever-be-adults, health Nazi, wheat grass sipping, long life destined bunch of boring pricks. Wild parties involving Scrabble, Fruit Smoothies, and Ice Cream going all the way to 11 PM before spending 45 worthless years of drudgery before a shoddy pension and death from colon cancer.

"I smelled smoke and was sick for an hour." "Smoke makes me wheeze uncontrollably, and kills 900,000 people every year." What a bunch of pantywaist, bs'ing ninnies. Be glad some people are considerate enough to pay shitloads of tobacco taxes and die promptly at 65 from smoking before becoming a burden to society for 20 years while telling wild tales of a mundane, useless life to anyone who'll listen. Obviously, smoking doesn't make one interesting whatsoever, but this health nut attitude is a virtual guarantee of a douche wanting a politically correct, G-rated world.

Careless smokers are also pricks and partly responsible for this backlash, though there was a time people weren't so incredibly whiny and quick to ban anything they could merely disagree with. Bertrand Russell loved his pipe and was a better man than these "ban this, ban that" dorks combined.

Hey! I'm Asthmatic and I have no problem with people smoking.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

Boy, this anti-smoking crowd is a bandwagon jumping, melodramatically asthmatic, self-righteous, "I don't like it so ban it," adults-can't-ever-be-adults, health Nazi, wheat grass sipping, long life destined bunch of boring pricks. Wild parties involving Scrabble, Fruit Smoothies, and Ice Cream going all the way to 11 PM before spending 45 worthless years of drudgery before a shoddy pension and death from colon cancer.

"I smelled smoke and was sick for an hour." "Smoke makes me wheeze uncontrollably, and kills 900,000 people every year." What a bunch of pantywaist, bs'ing ninnies. Be glad some people are considerate enough to pay shitloads of tobacco taxes and die promptly at 65 from smoking before becoming a burden to society for 20 years while telling wild tales of a mundane, useless life to anyone who'll listen. Obviously, smoking doesn't make one interesting whatsoever, but this health nut attitude is a virtual guarantee of a douche wanting a politically correct, G-rated world.

Careless smokers are also pricks and partly responsible for this backlash, though there was a time people weren't so incredibly whiny and quick to ban anything they could merely disagree with. Bertrand Russell loved his pipe and was a better man than these "ban this, ban that" dorks combined.

Hey! I'm Asthmatic and I have no problem with people smoking.

Then you probably aren't being exposed widely enough yet, or you're not as sensitive as other asthmatics are...

[Cosara]

Hey! I'm Asthmatic and I have no problem with people smoking.

Then you probably aren't being exposed widely enough yet, or you're not as sensitive as other asthmatics are...

I'm not as sensitive as other Asthmmatics are.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

Then you probably aren't being exposed widely enough yet, or you're not as sensitive as other asthmatics are...

I'm not as sensitive as other Asthmmatics are.

Exactly, you must understand gentlemen that not all people are the same, so there are some people who are more sensitive to smoke than others, so it's unfair to speak for a whole group, when in reality each one of us, are as unique as a snowflake...

[The Steel Magnolia]

I'm not as sensitive as other Asthmmatics are.

Exactly, you must understand gentlemen that not all people are the same, so there are some people who are more sensitive to smoke than others, so it's unfair to speak for a whole group, when in reality each one of us, are as unique as a snowflake...

People have perfume allergies. Ban perfume.

[Dooom35796821595]

the most important change in society was that even smokers started to admit it is a bad habit, and it is anti social. The more worrying thing is the obesity crisis. Or the high possibility of a highly virulent virus killing 1% of the worlds population.

[Nationalist State of Knox]

Exactly, you must understand gentlemen that not all people are the same, so there are some people who are more sensitive to smoke than others, so it's unfair to speak for a whole group, when in reality each one of us, are as unique as a snowflake...

People have perfume allergies. Ban perfume.

Smoking affects everybody, not just an incredibly small minority.

[The Steel Magnolia]

People have perfume allergies. Ban perfume.

Smoking affects everybody, not just an incredibly small minority.

He was talking about asthmatics.

And very true! Which is why no one advocates allowing smoking in enclosed areas.

[Gauntleted Fist]

I don't care if people smoke, but don't do it near doorways or restrooms. It's extremely annoying and smells awful.

Generally if people feel the need to smoke when I'm around I'm gone before they finish lighting the cigarette. I really despise being around it.

[Roan Cara]

To Pope John, I say rubbish, what absolute rubbish. Public smoking is not freedom, it is oppression, oppression to the people who wish to breathe fresh air...

Smoking is oppression? This is rich. Let me reread this while smoking a cig.

oh yes I am soo oppressed.

[Ifreann]

Smoking affects everybody, not just an incredibly small minority.

He was talking about asthmatics.

And very true! Which is why no one advocates allowing smoking in enclosed areas.

Except all the people suggesting that they should be allowed to smoke anywhere, since they pay taxes on their cigarettes.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

Exactly, you must understand gentlemen that not all people are the same, so there are some people who are more sensitive to smoke than others, so it's unfair to speak for a whole group, when in reality each one of us, are as unique as a snowflake...

People have perfume allergies. Ban perfume.

Well perfume doesn't have lethal chemicals in it, so that's one difference, another difference is that smoking is an unnecessary pollution, that doesn't benefit anyone at all...

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

He was talking about asthmatics.

And very true! Which is why no one advocates allowing smoking in enclosed areas.

Except all the people suggesting that they should be allowed to smoke anywhere, since they pay taxes on their cigarettes.

Taxes on cigarettes are there to act as a deterrent on smoking consumption...

[Brition]

I'm asthmatic, and as long as im not locked in a room with a lit cigarette, I'm fine.

Others have nothing to complain about really. Who are we to tell others how to live their lives.

[Cassadaigua]

I'm not paranoid about it but I don't like being around it, and hate it when strangers light up when standing right next you... here's the key: without asking if its ok.

When a smoker asks me if its ok for them to light up near me, I will say yes, because I appreciate their courtesy.

[Ethan Foley]

Quite honestly, I do not like or appreciate smoking anywhere. But, this isn't a dictatorship, so everyone's voice must be heard, and the majority seems to come to the agreement that smoking should just be banned in public places, like restaurants, which I can live with.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

Quite honestly, I do not like or appreciate smoking anywhere. But, this isn't a dictatorship, so everyone's voice must be heard, and the majority seems to come to the agreement that smoking should just be banned in public places, like restaurants, which I can live with.

I agree with it as-well, after all people have the right to breathe clean "public" air more than smokers have the right to lower the life expectancy of everyone around them...

[Ifreann]

People have perfume allergies. Ban perfume.

Well perfume doesn't have lethal chemicals in it, so that's one difference, another difference is that smoking is an unnecessary pollution, that doesn't benefit anyone at all...

Any chemical can be lethal in the right dose.

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Except all the people suggesting that they should be allowed to smoke anywhere, since they pay taxes on their cigarettes.

Taxes on cigarettes are there to act as a deterrent on smoking consumption...

And to raise money.

[The Steel Magnolia]

He was talking about asthmatics.

And very true! Which is why no one advocates allowing smoking in enclosed areas.

Except all the people suggesting that they should be allowed to smoke anywhere, since they pay taxes on their cigarettes.

Except no, that`s not actually what was being advocated.

[Beldonia]

I smoke. I always try to never blow smoke in the general direction of anyone, but it doesn't always work out. Nevertheless, it'd be a big deal to tell smokers that they're only allowed to smoke on private property. Many may not have access to private property on which they can smoke during the workday, for example.
In the case of the US, it might be best to do it by state. Way more people smoke in places like Alabama and Georgia than in Connecticut and Minnesota.
But I'd be opposed to any sort of further outlawing of cigarettes. I say public property ought to be fair game.

[The Steel Magnolia]

People have perfume allergies. Ban perfume.

Well perfume doesn't have lethal chemicals in it, so that's one difference, another difference is that smoking is an unnecessary pollution, that doesn't benefit anyone at all...

First off, "chemicals" are not always bad.

Secondly, smoking can directly benefit smokers, so.

The restriction in personal freedom is not warranted by the minute to nonexistent benefit in public health.

[Ifreann]

Except all the people suggesting that they should be allowed to smoke anywhere, since they pay taxes on their cigarettes.

Except no, that`s not actually what was being advocated.

Not by you, perhaps.

EU politicians are kindly advised to keep their hands off my cigarettes. I will smoke where I please, when I please, thank you. I pay taxes for those cigarettes. This entitles me to smoke wherever I please.

In Romania, all bars and restaurants are required to have separate smoking lounges. As for on the street, well, its a public space and I have as much right to it as everyone else. If any politician thinks of taking away people's right to smoke or drink alcohol in public places in Romania, I believe there would be a revolution by tomorrow morning.

Bolding mine.

[The Steel Magnolia]

I took that to mean in places where it's already legal.