Smoking In Public

[Zapato]

Smoking in public should be a capital crime.

It's not like you're not trying to poison yourself anyway, so...

[Vitaphone Racing]

You don't have a legal right to smoke...

Last I checked, it wasn't illegal to smoke so long as you are of age. therefore, yes s/he does.

You don't know what a right is do you?

[Ostroeuropa]

Excercises my rights.

I would be okay with that, except that smoking is very hard to keep away from other people. What I don't understand is why people do it. Hot chemicals going into lungs=bad

It's relaxing.

[Invarel]

smoking sucks and is gross but trying to ban it in public is stupid. the university i attend says not to smoke inside or within 20 feet of a building. i like that rule. being around cigarette smoke congests the f out of me, but like... as long as the smoker isn't standing right next to me, it's not a problem. i know that there are some people smoke really affects, but why limit the rights of all to suit a few people?

[Ostroeuropa]

smoking sucks and is gross but trying to ban it in public is stupid. the university i attend says not to smoke inside or within 20 feet of a building. i like that rule. being around cigarette smoke congests the f out of me, but like... as long as the smoker isn't standing right next to me, it's not a problem. i know that there are some people smoke really affects, but why limit the rights of all to suit a few people?

happy with that. I'd prefer 20 feet from building entrance though.

[Invarel]

windows

edit: all of my universities academic buildings are giant standalones, not attached, so they have windows all the way around.

[Ostroeuropa]

windows

edit: all of my universities academic buildings are giant standalones, not attached, so they have windows all the way around.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlG0hdhYIGw
Seems quibbling at that point. It's a fair enough comprimise seeing as the window can be closed.

[Gothmogs]

I would be okay with that, except that smoking is very hard to keep away from other people. What I don't understand is why people do it. Hot chemicals going into lungs=bad

It's relaxing.

Its only relaxing while you take it. You can not relax without it because you will have withdrawl symtoms.
(Posting from school so I cant reply from now on.)

[Invarel]

my boyfriend smokes but he rolls his own cigarettes. no withdrawals, but he finds it very relaxing. i still think its gross.

[Ostroeuropa]

It's relaxing.

Its only relaxing while you take it. You can not relax without it because you will have withdrawl symtoms.
(Posting from school so I cant reply from now on.)

Sure. But I also find it relaxing to roll cigarettes, and to do the rest of it.
I don't really get withdrawl either. I smoke by my wristwatch and it's beeps. It leads to me being zen most of the time. Except on NSG.
Because goddamn. NSG.
Orwheni'moutpartyingbecausethenIdecidetopinkiepieandallmypentupenergyburstsoutandonceandohmygoshpartyfunfunfunlet'sdrinkanddodrugsandtalkaboutthingsandmusicanddance

[Invarel]

i refuse to believe that anyone on ns is above the age of 14 and has "partied"

[Meowfoundland]

I really don't mind that much if you're smoking outside, because usually there's at least a fresh breeze or something to carry the smoke away. What I hate is when smokers congregate around the entrances of train stations (illegal) and fill them up with smoke, or when they smoke under the shelter at the bus or tram stop (also illegal) during the rain so I have no choice but to breathe in their disgusting tasting smoke. It'd be easier for the vast majority of people if they would just follow the law.

It'd also be good if heavy smokers could use deodorant or something before getting on buses because the smell of stale smoke is probably worse in my eyes (nose?) than fresh smoke. I'd expect the same simple courtesy from people with bad body odour, or someone who works at a sewerage farm.

[Eoghania]

I really don't mind that much if you're smoking outside, because usually there's at least a fresh breeze or something to carry the smoke away. What I hate is when smokers congregate around the entrances of train stations (illegal) and fill them up with smoke, or when they smoke under the shelter at the bus or tram stop (also illegal) during the rain so I have no choice but to breathe in their disgusting tasting smoke. It'd be easier for the vast majority of people if they would just follow the law.

It'd also be good if heavy smokers could use deodorant or something before getting on buses because the smell of stale smoke is probably worse in my eyes (nose?) than fresh smoke. I'd expect the same simple courtesy from people with bad body odour, or someone who works at a sewerage farm.

You. I like you. You are sensible.

[Serrland]

I really don't mind that much if you're smoking outside, because usually there's at least a fresh breeze or something to carry the smoke away. What I hate is when smokers congregate around the entrances of train stations (illegal) and fill them up with smoke, or when they smoke under the shelter at the bus or tram stop (also illegal) during the rain so I have no choice but to breathe in their disgusting tasting smoke. It'd be easier for the vast majority of people if they would just follow the law.

It'd also be good if heavy smokers could use deodorant or something before getting on buses because the smell of stale smoke is probably worse in my eyes (nose?) than fresh smoke. I'd expect the same simple courtesy from people with bad body odour, or someone who works at a sewerage farm.

I dunno - I love the smell of stale pipe tobacco (as long as it isn't one of those abominable fruit scented tobaccos), and stale cigar isn't bad. It's mostly just stale cigarettes that I find pretty gross smelling.

[Algonquin Ascendancy]

As an asthmatic I often curse, metaphorically of course, at smokers who either purposely or by accident blow their cigarette smoke in my face. What follows is usually a nasty cough and wheezing, which is always pleasant whilst walking through town or around my college. Luckily I usually only have to experience smoke all around me in the town centre or by my college as, here in the UK, ever since the smoking ban I can sit in restaurants and pubs, offices etc. without it. Thankfully none of my family smoke either.

However I was wondering-should we go further with smoking restrictions in public? In the UK and in a number of US states I believe, smoking bans inside public places such as bars and offices, but out on the street you are perfectly free to smoke. Should we restrict this further-smoking should only be permitted inside your own home or on other private property? Perhaps we shouldn't allow smoking in high streets-we have alcohol free zones where you can't drink, why not this?

I'll admit I'm biased in my view being an asthmatic, but I'd like perhaps smoke free zones in high streets or only allowing smoking in smoke shelters. I'd even stretch to only allowing smoking on private property, but nothing else. Do you agree or do you take a libertarian viewpoint on smoking-you can do it anywhere you like, regardless.

Thank you NS.

I don't think anyone should smoke, it's a disgusting habit... However, so long as you don't blow smoke in my face, or want to be with me, your choice doesn't really affect me.

[Eoghania]

I really don't mind that much if you're smoking outside, because usually there's at least a fresh breeze or something to carry the smoke away. What I hate is when smokers congregate around the entrances of train stations (illegal) and fill them up with smoke, or when they smoke under the shelter at the bus or tram stop (also illegal) during the rain so I have no choice but to breathe in their disgusting tasting smoke. It'd be easier for the vast majority of people if they would just follow the law.

It'd also be good if heavy smokers could use deodorant or something before getting on buses because the smell of stale smoke is probably worse in my eyes (nose?) than fresh smoke. I'd expect the same simple courtesy from people with bad body odour, or someone who works at a sewerage farm.

I dunno - I love the smell of stale pipe tobacco (as long as it isn't one of those abominable fruit scented tobaccos), and stale cigar isn't bad. It's mostly just stale cigarettes that I find pretty gross smelling.

It's funny, but the more tobacco used (or rather, the less additives) the less unpleasant the smell is. I've been arguing in this thread against public smoking on principle, but the smell of a good cigar (on someone's clothes, say) is quite nice. Whilst I have no plans to start smoking, I have little personal complaint about someone smoking good pipe tobacco nearby.

[Meowfoundland]

I really don't mind that much if you're smoking outside, because usually there's at least a fresh breeze or something to carry the smoke away. What I hate is when smokers congregate around the entrances of train stations (illegal) and fill them up with smoke, or when they smoke under the shelter at the bus or tram stop (also illegal) during the rain so I have no choice but to breathe in their disgusting tasting smoke. It'd be easier for the vast majority of people if they would just follow the law.

It'd also be good if heavy smokers could use deodorant or something before getting on buses because the smell of stale smoke is probably worse in my eyes (nose?) than fresh smoke. I'd expect the same simple courtesy from people with bad body odour, or someone who works at a sewerage farm.

I dunno - I love the smell of stale pipe tobacco (as long as it isn't one of those abominable fruit scented tobaccos), and stale cigar isn't bad. It's mostly just stale cigarettes that I find pretty gross smelling.

I wouldn't know, no one smokes pipes or cigars around here. I have heard that they're better tasting than cigarettes though, so maybe the smell is related to that.

[Invarel]

one of my favorite professors smokes cigars all the time. i do love the scent of cigars.

[Immoren]

Alcohol which you aren't allowed to consume in public? Lawl.

Really? One learns something new everyday.

[Eoghania]

Alcohol which you aren't allowed to consume in public? Lawl.

Really? One learns something new everyday.

In a bar, yes. In streets, nope.

[Vitaphone Racing]

Alcohol which you aren't allowed to consume in public? Lawl.

Really? One learns something new everyday.

Sad but true. In many countries, not only is being drunk in public illegal, it's also illegal to have an open container of alcohol too.

[Ifreann]

Not really as the taxes paid by smokers barely, if at all, cover the due cost of smoking related illnesses on government health care.

Smokers are net producers.

I'm entirely at a loss as to why it matters.

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Not really as the taxes paid by smokers barely, if at all, cover the due cost of smoking related illnesses on government health care.

Lies. Smokers die before using much government benefits, on average. We smoke and pay a shitload in sin tax, and then die before using most of those benefits we payed for. If anything, you should be thanking smokers for being a benefit to society. Any further restrictions upon smokers is just pointless actions based on fear and stupidity.

Quite frankly one should be able to smoke in any establishment that wants to allow it. IE: bars and restaurants. Having smoking and nonsmoking sections again. Worked fine for waffle house...and waffle house is a tiny place. You couldn't even smell smoke in the nonsmoking section.

And if I pay enough in taxes, I should be able to punch a club bouncer in the face without legal consequence. Is that how it works?

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As an ashmatic individual, I'm of the opinion that smoking should be allowed anywhere, if the owners of the property it's done on allow it.

Sorry, concern for the welfare of workers matters more to me than you having both asthma and an opinion.

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As an asthmatic individual, I'm of the opinion that smoking should be allowed anywhere, if the owners of the property it's done on allow it.

Thank you for understanding that's what we want.

And I think I can speak for many smokers when I say: we do make an effort to not get in your way, or irritate you.

Unless I work in the restaurant or bar you want to smoke in, in which case I don't seem to matter in the slightest.

[Costa Alegria]

Really? One learns something new everyday.

Sad but true. In many countries, not only is being drunk in public illegal, it's also illegal to have an open container of alcohol too.

Technically, those would be council bylaws against drinking.

[Harrinton]

In my opinion, there should be smoking areas because some people with Asthma are seriously effected by smoke.

[The Steel Magnolia]

Smokers are net producers.

I'm entirely at a loss as to why it matters.

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Lies. Smokers die before using much government benefits, on average. We smoke and pay a shitload in sin tax, and then die before using most of those benefits we payed for. If anything, you should be thanking smokers for being a benefit to society. Any further restrictions upon smokers is just pointless actions based on fear and stupidity.

Quite frankly one should be able to smoke in any establishment that wants to allow it. IE: bars and restaurants. Having smoking and nonsmoking sections again. Worked fine for waffle house...and waffle house is a tiny place. You couldn't even smell smoke in the nonsmoking section.

And if I pay enough in taxes, I should be able to punch a club bouncer in the face without legal consequence. Is that how it works?

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As an ashmatic individual, I'm of the opinion that smoking should be allowed anywhere, if the owners of the property it's done on allow it.

Sorry, concern for the welfare of workers matters more to me than you having both asthma and an opinion.

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Thank you for understanding that's what we want.

And I think I can speak for many smokers when I say: we do make an effort to not get in your way, or irritate you.

Unless I work in the restaurant or bar you want to smoke in, in which case I don't seem to matter in the slightest.

Well thank god I didn't advocate for smoking to be allowed indoors then, did I?