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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:24 pm

Arcturus Novus wrote:I've always believed life has to continue on somehow, and this actually seems kind of plausible despite the lack of evidence.


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Postby Arcturus Novus » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:25 pm

Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
Arcturus Novus wrote:I've always believed life has to continue on somehow, and this actually seems kind of plausible despite the lack of evidence.


:hug:

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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:25 pm

Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:I used to like the idea behind reincarnation, and despite not believing it is true I kinda wanted it to be.

Now I really, really hope it isn't.


Why?

Considering the prospects for humanity (not necessarily me mind you) within my lifetime looks like it'll be leaning towards the shitty end of the spectrum, I'd rather not be reincarnated.

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Postby Thafoo » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:26 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
Why?

Considering the prospects for humanity (not necessarily me mind you) within my lifetime looks like it'll be leaning towards the shitty end of the spectrum, I'd rather not be reincarnated.

You'd make a great dung beetle :p

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Postby New haven america » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:27 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
Why?

Considering the prospects for humanity (not necessarily me mind you) within my lifetime looks like it'll be leaning towards the shitty end of the spectrum, I'd rather not be reincarnated.

Yes but then when that lifes over you will be happy, then sad, then happy, and this pattern will continue until you become enlightened.:P
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Postby Thafoo » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:28 pm

New haven america wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Considering the prospects for humanity (not necessarily me mind you) within my lifetime looks like it'll be leaning towards the shitty end of the spectrum, I'd rather not be reincarnated.

Yes but then when that lifes over you will be happy, then sad, then happy, and this pattern will continue until you become enlightened.:P

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Postby Frisivisia » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:28 pm

Arcturus Novus wrote:I've always believed life has to continue on somehow, and this actually seems kind of plausible despite the lack of evidence.

Other things that seem plausible despite lack of evidence:

The Earth revolves around the sun
When I can't see things, they cease to exist
Leprechauns
Santa Claus
The Tooth Fairy
The Bible (not really)
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Postby Arcturus Novus » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:28 pm

Honestly, I think it's the fear that I may be finite that I believe in reincarnation. It just seems impossible that something as powerful and unique as a human life can just disappear after someone dies. It means people like Mark Twain, Einstein, etc. just vanished forever.
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Postby Thafoo » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:28 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Arcturus Novus wrote:I've always believed life has to continue on somehow, and this actually seems kind of plausible despite the lack of evidence.

Other things that seem plausible despite lack of evidence:

The Earth revolves around the sun
When I can't see things, they cease to exist
Leprechauns
Santa Claus
The Tooth Fairy
The Bible (not really)

I think you mean the sun revolves around the earth? :rofl:

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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:29 pm

Thafoo wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Considering the prospects for humanity (not necessarily me mind you) within my lifetime looks like it'll be leaning towards the shitty end of the spectrum, I'd rather not be reincarnated.

You'd make a great dung beetle :p

And you'd make a great black widow spider. ;)

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Postby Thafoo » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:29 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Thafoo wrote:You'd make a great dung beetle :p

And you'd make a great black widow spider. ;)

Which gender? D:

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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:29 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
Why?

Considering the prospects for humanity (not necessarily me mind you) within my lifetime looks like it'll be leaning towards the shitty end of the spectrum, I'd rather not be reincarnated.


Ah but there is a possibility that your soul may travel to another sentient species. Or perhaps enough time will pass in between your death and rebirth that your new body will exist in a better world.

On a side note, I think many of our souls could be in worse places.
The 21st century is pretty awesome compared to the Middle Ages for example, at least in terms of standard of living.
Though it's obviously still not perfect.
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Postby New Naephak » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:29 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Arcturus Novus wrote:I've always believed life has to continue on somehow, and this actually seems kind of plausible despite the lack of evidence.

Other things that seem plausible despite lack of evidence:

The Earth revolves around the sun
When I can't see things, they cease to exist
Leprechauns
Santa Claus
The Tooth Fairy
The Bible (not really)

:rofl: Lost it at the Bible.

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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:30 pm

Arcturus Novus wrote:Honestly, I think it's the fear that I may be finite that I believe in reincarnation. It just seems impossible that something as powerful and unique as a human life can just disappear after someone dies. It means people like Mark Twain, Einstein, etc. just vanished forever.

Well, there atomic particles are still around.

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Postby New haven america » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:30 pm

Thafoo wrote:
New haven america wrote:Yet again give me proof. I'm not religious but still need proof.

What the hell do you want? A newspaper article? A Wikipedia entry? The proof is that there is none :palm:

No I'm just asking, give me proof they're not. It's not that hard just use this thing called Google :palm:
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Postby Frisivisia » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:31 pm

Thafoo wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:And you'd make a great black widow spider. ;)

Which gender? D:

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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:32 pm

Frisivisia wrote:When I can't see things, they cease to exist


Ahh... solipsism. Possibly the most deficient school of thought ever created.
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Postby Frisivisia » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:32 pm

New haven america wrote:
Thafoo wrote:What the hell do you want? A newspaper article? A Wikipedia entry? The proof is that there is none :palm:

No I'm just asking, give me proof they're not. It's not that hard just use this thing called Google :palm:

Son, I'm not sure that you know, but they just invented this thing. It's called logic. Use it.
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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:32 pm

Thafoo wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:And you'd make a great black widow spider. ;)

Which gender? D:

Female, obviously.
Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Considering the prospects for humanity (not necessarily me mind you) within my lifetime looks like it'll be leaning towards the shitty end of the spectrum, I'd rather not be reincarnated.


Ah but there is a possibility that your soul may travel to another sentient species. Or perhaps enough time will pass in between your death and rebirth that your new body will exist in a better world.

On a side note, I think many of our souls could be in worse places.
The 21st century is pretty awesome compared to the Middle Ages for example, at least in terms of standard of living.
Though it's obviously still not perfect.
Well yeah, obviously. Still, I'd only like to be reincarnated in society like that from the Culture series.

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Postby New Naephak » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:32 pm

New haven america wrote:
Thafoo wrote:What the hell do you want? A newspaper article? A Wikipedia entry? The proof is that there is none :palm:

No I'm just asking, give me proof they're not. It's not that hard just use this thing called Google :palm:

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Postby Thafoo » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:32 pm

New haven america wrote:
Thafoo wrote:What the hell do you want? A newspaper article? A Wikipedia entry? The proof is that there is none :palm:

No I'm just asking, give me proof they're not. It's not that hard just use this thing called Google :palm:

What the hell do you want me to search? "Proof that spirits don't exist"?

I don't expect you to be satisfied..

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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:34 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
New haven america wrote:No I'm just asking, give me proof they're not. It's not that hard just use this thing called Google :palm:

Son, I'm not sure that you know, but they just invented this thing. It's called logic. Use it.


Personally, I think reincarnation is quite logical.
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Postby Frisivisia » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:34 pm

Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:When I can't see things, they cease to exist


Ahh... solipsism. Possibly the most deficient school of thought ever created.

And it relies on ignorance and lack of logic, just like belief in reincarnation.
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Postby New haven america » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:34 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
New haven america wrote:No I'm just asking, give me proof they're not. It's not that hard just use this thing called Google :palm:

Son, I'm not sure that you know, but they just invented this thing. It's called logic. Use it.

Yes and I also use this thing called not being tied down. Great inventors and scholars used logic and thinking outside the box, and now they have a place in history.
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Postby Vazdania » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:35 pm

Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:So NS, what do you think happens when you die?

I think that when we die we are reincarnated into the next sentient thing born- whether human or otherwise- in the universe. The time between death and rebirth feels instantaneous. Also upon your souls reentry into a new body, the old memory is wiped.
This process doesn't adhere to morality, thus you won't necessarily be reborn as a beggar if you were evil in your last life. Instead the process is likely totally random and divided into stages.
Although memory doesn't transcend this process, it's quite likely that all bodies inhabited by the same soul have certain mental and psychological characteristics, such as an interest in politics or inherent boldness.

1-Death. Final cessation of consciousness within the old body.
2-Memory Wipe
3-Your soul is sent to a cosmic waiting area.
4-Souls enter a newly born sentient being in order based on who died first.
5-Consciousness within the new body.
6-After 0-120 years: Repeat.

Thus, it is my postulation that everyone here has likely lived multiple lives but doesn't remember any of them. It is perfectly possible that one of us may have the reincarnated soul of such individuals such as Hitler or Lincoln.

Well in the words of Metaphysics "Consciousness is endless, infinite, and real"
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